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Old 03-29-2015, 11:45 PM   #1401
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Hopefully it works out as well as it did last year. lol
Wishing injury on a performer? That's awful, fan. How can you be so cruel?
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Old 03-29-2015, 11:45 PM   #1402
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Holy shit they just showed the main event ending on SportsCenter. Just seemed surreal to see it covered like a real sport.
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Old 03-29-2015, 11:45 PM   #1403
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You're trying to compare the Hogan debacle to what happened tonight all the while making comments like "WWE is trying to be ROH this time of year". You're clearly bitter that all your bravado from the last couple months since Roman won the rumble have been completely rendered null and void. Just come to terms with the fact that you were wrong and always will be.
Sum up the stuff I've said about Roman Reigns. Go ahead.
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For those who can't quite grasp the concept of the MITB briefcase (because that's what it is), it's very simple. The briefcase holder has the right to cash it in (trade it in) at any time on whatever champion he so pleases (now down to 1 champion these days). The legitimacy of a fair 1-on-1 match never existed since Edge first cashed in his briefcase. Are you trying to tell me that creating a championship match against a bloody and mangled John Cena at the end of PPV is just as legitimate as if Edge had said "I will cash-in my MITB briefcase after your Elimination Chamber match" before it started? I don't think so. Therefore, it is perfectly logical for a MITB cash-in to occur during a match to turn it into another type of match which changes the rules. I honestly was surprised after all of these years it took THIS LONG to FINALLY do it.

A 1-on-1 championship match became a Triple Threat championship match. No harm, no foul.
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I dont really know what y'all are arguing about but "any time, anywhere" makes no sense because the wwe champion wasn't even at most of the raw or smackdown shows, so if the guy wanted to do it on one of those, what would happen
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Wishing injury on a performer? That's awful, fan. How can you be so cruel?
It could be worse. I could have said hopefully it turns out as well as it did with Benoit.
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Seth Rollins vs Kane incoming.
I was thinking Orton can finally get his title shot from last year
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Old 03-29-2015, 11:48 PM   #1409
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It's been too long since they had a decent tournament. They could do so now. Usually they blow it on a one-night "beat the clock" series.

At this point a 2-round number one contender tournament could feature the following as a PPV main event:

Reigns (Screwed by Rollins)
Lesnar (Lost the title without being beaten)
Orton (Beat Rollins at Wrestlemania)
Big Show (Won Andre trophy & friends with authority)

I'm sure you could fill it out with some other people if you wanted to but these are the guys who could make a claim based on WM accomplishments or sleights against them. Or else, throw Rusev in it and a sixth guy (Kane maybe as another authority guy) and have an Elimination Chamber match since the PPV got dropped.
That's true and it could work. I just wanna see where they go from here with at least two or three good feuds lined up before going nuts with multi man tourney stuff

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Old 03-29-2015, 11:49 PM   #1410
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Leave #1-WWF-fan alone! Go annoy Ronic's worthless unredeemable soul.
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Old 03-29-2015, 11:49 PM   #1411
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I dont really know what y'all are arguing about but "any time, anywhere" makes no sense because the wwe champion wasn't even at most of the raw or smackdown shows, so if the guy wanted to do it on one of those, what would happen
At this point I'm going to consider you a 1/10th wit. I may have to revise this downwards.
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Old 03-29-2015, 11:49 PM   #1412
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Sum up the stuff I've said about Roman Reigns. Go ahead.
Oh, I'm not claiming you sung his praise. You clearly didn't think he was any more ready than the rest of us. You did however make it a point to laugh at everyone who was disappointed when Bryan didn't win and state how WWE was making the smart business choice. Looks like even Vince disagreed with you this time, bub.
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Old 03-29-2015, 11:50 PM   #1413
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It could be worse. I could have said hopefully it turns out as well as it did with Benoit.
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Old 03-29-2015, 11:50 PM   #1414
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For those who can't quite grasp the concept of the MITB briefcase (because that's what it is), it's very simple. The briefcase holder has the right to cash it in (trade it in) at any time on whatever champion he so pleases (now down to 1 champion these days). The legitimacy of a fair 1-on-1 match never existed since Edge first cashed in his briefcase. Are you trying to tell me that creating a championship match against a bloody and mangled John Cena at the end of PPV is just as legitimate as if Edge had said "I will cash-in my MITB briefcase after your Elimination Chamber match" before it started? I don't think so. Therefore, it is perfectly logical for a MITB cash-in to occur during a match to turn it into another type of match which changes the rules. I honestly was surprised after all of these years it took THIS LONG to FINALLY do it.

A 1-on-1 championship match became a Triple Threat championship match. No harm, no foul.
Yeah...on what I call a Jump-In Cash-Out. That's the wording for it. I'd much rather ALL MITB briefcase winners be forced to do a full 20 minute match to EARN the belt. Strong emphasis on EARN.

Doing the Jump-In Cash-Out only sets you up, if you bag your 1st World Title, to a title loss within 2-3 months anyway. Rollins won't be champion too long, so why bother with a Jump-In Cash-Out?

Oh...another explanation...Cash-Out, in financial terms, means you cash out a check(qe) to get the amount of money listed on it.

So, yeah...Jump-In Cash-Out....makes sense to use ONLY that term for something like what happened tonight.
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Old 03-29-2015, 11:51 PM   #1415
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That's true and it could work. I just wanna see where they go from here with at least two or three good feuds lined up before going nuts with multi man tourney stuff

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I hope they're smart about it; Lesnar probably won't be back until SummerSlam so he'll either get his rematch or a match for contendership there. Rollins is going to be protected by the authority so I doubt that usual "rematch clause" rules will apply. Orton and Reigns will both vie for their deserved title shots and probably be pitted against each other. With the supposed plans to focus on building prestige for the midcard titles (which would seemingly be given credibility by the idea that both are now held by former multi-time world champions) Cena will be away from the World title picture for a while, which suits me fine.
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The MITB case is an inherently heel plot device. Edge and Seth Rollins had them used for them perfectly.
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Old 03-29-2015, 11:52 PM   #1417
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Oh, I'm not claiming you sung his praise. You clearly didn't think he was any more ready than the rest of us. You did however make it a point to laugh at everyone who was disappointed when Bryan didn't win and state how WWE was making the smart business choice. Looks like even Vince disagreed with you this time, bub.
Vince sold the PPV on Roman Reigns vs Brock Lesnar instead of *insert vanilla midget here* vs Brock Lesnar. I'd still say that was the better business move. And when people don't tune in to see some generic guy with a slight lisp wearing leather pants and a streak in his hair named "Seth" main eventing shows, they'll take the title off of him, put him in the opening match next year and keep trying.
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Vince sold the PPV on Roman Reigns vs Brock Lesnar instead of *insert vanilla midget here* vs Brock Lesnar. I'd still say that was the better business move.
And yet he didn't have the grapefruits to commit.
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The MITB case is an inherently heel plot device. Edge and Seth Rollins had them used for them perfectly.
Hell it even turned Punk heel.
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Leave #1-WWF-fan alone! Go annoy Ronic's worthless unredeemable soul.
Sorry, James, but in that war, it was everyone who cheers H, who drew the first blood, giving people like me, who don't like him building his career over Owen Hart's corpse, ETERNAL carte-blanche to do what we want, and say what we want, against him.

Meaning, YOU don't get to control the narrative of what the mainstream fans would think about that. We do.

So..yeah. Go snort some cocaine and kerosene fumes, and sit the fuck down. Cause we don't need your power-grabby nature around here.

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Vince sold the PPV on Roman Reigns vs Brock Lesnar instead of *insert vanilla midget here* vs Brock Lesnar. I'd still say that was the better business move. And when people don't tune in to see some generic guy with a slight lisp wearing leather pants and a streak in his hair named "Seth" main eventing shows, they'll take the title off of him, put him in the opening match next year and keep trying.
Jeez, you're a negative nelly.
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Vince sold the PPV on Roman Reigns vs Brock Lesnar instead of *insert vanilla midget here* vs Brock Lesnar. I'd still say that was the better business move. And when people don't tune in to see some generic guy with a slight lisp wearing leather pants and a streak in his hair named "Seth" main eventing shows, they'll take the title off of him, put him in the opening match next year and keep trying.
And then Vince will buckle again and we'll be doing this same song and dance again next year.
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And yet he didn't have the grapefruits to commit.
Yes he did. He sold the PPV on Reigns vs Lesnar as the main event. He literally did exactly that. Read.
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Hell it even turned Punk heel.
The MITB briefcase is like the one ring?
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Old 03-29-2015, 11:57 PM   #1427
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Yes he did. He sold the PPV on Reigns vs Lesnar as the main event. He literally did exactly that. Read.
Lol you're just gonna keep running in circles 'til you tucker yourself out, aren't you?
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lol I'm being realistic. There's a reason ROH is what it is.
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The MITB case is an inherently heel plot device. Edge and Seth Rollins had them used for them perfectly.
Yeup and when a face (Cena) decided to cash in, he gave the heads up notice.

Wouldn't make sense for a heel to give up that advantage unless he was completely built like Bo Dallas in terms of delusional arrogance.
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Lol you're just gonna keep running in circles 'til you tucker yourself out, aren't you?
"He sold the PPV on Reigns vs Lesnar"

"He didn't commit"

"Yes he did. He literally sold the PPV on Reigns vs Lesnar. He put them in the main event and committed to that being the match that sells the show."

"lol You're running in circles."

I mean... come on. If you're trying to troll, you're not even doing that well. You've still gotta try to make a point to continue the conversation. lol
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Old 03-30-2015, 12:01 AM   #1432
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lol I'm being realistic. There's a reason ROH is what it is.
ROH is what it is because WWE has a monopoly on pro-wrestling. No one's ever gonna take another wrestling promotion seriously no matter what they do. Money = power and WWE has both in spades.

Keep pretending it's because they're all Flippy McKickpads though. I'm sure TNA during their "lets copy WWE's every move" phase did amazingly well... Oh, wait... no it didn't...
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Yeup and when a face (Cena) decided to cash in, he gave the heads up notice.

Wouldn't make sense for a heel to give up that advantage unless he was completely built like Bo Dallas in terms of delusional arrogance.
Yeah, and consider that "I'll be cashing in at Wrestlemania NO IMA DO IT NOW WHILE MARK HENRY IS DEAD" is what launched Bryan down the heel path.
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Old 03-30-2015, 12:02 AM   #1434
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I am not gay but this is so goddamn funny that I feel obligated to offer to suck your cock off right now.
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Yeup and when a face (Cena) decided to cash in, he gave the heads up notice.

Wouldn't make sense for a heel to give up that advantage unless he was completely built like Bo Dallas in terms of delusional arrogance.
So did RVD
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Who was the hottie in the Neon Green shirt in the front row center?
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Old 03-30-2015, 12:03 AM   #1437
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Although #1wwf-fan is being pretty ridiculous tonight, he's right that the ppv was sold on lesnar vs reigns. Rollins winning doesn't change.
It's like saying Ronda Roussay sold the ppv.
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Old 03-30-2015, 12:04 AM   #1438
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9.3 / 10 - Quite possibly one of the most entertaining Wrestlemania's that I've seen in a LONG time.
Wow - So I watched the PPV at the theater tonight and I was thoroughly impressed. Absolutely great show! I did not see this one coming at all.


Roman Reigns "sold" me tonight. As both an entertainer and a wrestler. I had my doubts about the guy like most did, but I was really impressed by him.


The Ladder match was off the hook, as was Rollins/Orton. Absolutely great spot. Cena/Rusev exceeded my expectations, and it looks like Lana could be turning face. Triple H/Sting with added in DX vs. nWo was an extremely pleasant surprise. Absolutely loved the Triple H/Steph/Rock/Rousey skit as well.


My only mild disappointment was Bray not going over Taker, but I understand the WWE's decision and actually think it was the right call. Hopefully, Bray calls out Taker and goes over him at Summerslam.......ending Taker's career and going over big time.


Lesnar, Reigns, and Rollins all went over huge in the main-event. Lesnar legitimately looked like a beast in there (even I went full markdom and 'winced' every time he suplexed Reigns), and Reigns played the never-say-die underdog role exceptionally well..........and Rollins of course, played the chicken shit heel to perfection (i.e. cashing in when both Reigns and Lesnar were down).


Triple H's entrance was weird, but cool, and the backstage skit with Bryan, Flair, Steamboat, Hart, Patterson, and Simmons was gold.




I can't remember the last time I was this entertained by a PPV. Wrestlemania 18 might've been the last time, but this was definitely one of the best Wrestlemania's that I've ever seen.


9.3 / 10.
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"He sold the PPV on Reigns vs Lesnar"

"He didn't commit"

"Yes he did. He literally sold the PPV on Reigns vs Lesnar. He put them in the main event and committed to that being the match that sells the show."

"lol You're running in circles."

I mean... come on. If you're trying to troll, you're not even doing that well.
And then his self proclaimed future of the business didn't win because he caved to the fans again. Keep spinning things around so you can still sleep well tonight though, friend.
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