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Old 03-30-2015, 12:05 AM   #1441
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Old 03-30-2015, 12:06 AM   #1442
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Although #1wwf-fan is being pretty ridiculous tonight, he's right that the ppv was sold on lesnar vs reigns. Rollins winning doesn't change.
Yes. Even at my most ridiculous, you fail, Wishbone.
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Old 03-30-2015, 12:06 AM   #1443
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And then his self proclaimed future of the business didn't win because he caved to the fans again. Keep spinning things around so you can still sleep well tonight though, friend.
You feel like Rollins winning was him caving to the fans?
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Old 03-30-2015, 12:07 AM   #1444
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Rollins winning opens up WAY more storylines than Reigns or Lesnar winning.

There's so many feuds that can be spun off from this
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Old 03-30-2015, 12:07 AM   #1445
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Last year's wm was better
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You feel like Rollins winning was him caving to the fans?
If he was caving to the fans, he would have put Bryan in the match.
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Old 03-30-2015, 12:08 AM   #1447
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Although #1wwf-fan is being pretty ridiculous tonight, he's right that the ppv was sold on lesnar vs reigns. Rollins winning doesn't change.
It's like saying Ronda Roussay sold the ppv.






I'm not fully aware of #1wwf-fan's comments, but our entire theater marked the fuck out when Rollins' music hit, and marked out when Rollins won.


To me though, Reigns really established himself tonight, and I hope this has a long term effect in terms of crowd reactions. I was very impressed with Reigns and both an entertainer and performer. The *real* Heyman (Paul) wasn't fucking around when he told the smarks that Reigns was deserving of this opportunity.


All in all, the WWE hit a major homerun tonight, and I hope they can build on this further.


So glad Lesnar is here to stay.
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Old 03-30-2015, 12:08 AM   #1448
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Rollins winning opens up WAY more storylines than Reigns or Lesnar winning.

There's so many feuds that can be spun off from this
There are.

Unfortunately they all involve Seth Rollins as a world champion.
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Old 03-30-2015, 12:09 AM   #1449
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You feel like Rollins winning was him caving to the fans?
It was making something out of a situation they shouldn't have been stupid enough to get themselves into. The Reigns-Lesnar match went down but a win for either of them would have been a meh ending to too many people. Handing it to Rollins via an established gimmick saved Lesnar from being legitimately beaten and saved Reighs from crashing to the ground. Lesnar was robbed, Reigns was screwed, Rollins is now the biggest heel in WWE.
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Old 03-30-2015, 12:09 AM   #1450
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There are.

Unfortunately they all involve Seth Rollins as a world champion.
Right and everyone but you is the one who's butthurt over who won or lost.
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Old 03-30-2015, 12:10 AM   #1451
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Yes. Even at my most ridiculous, you fail, Wishbone.
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Old 03-30-2015, 12:10 AM   #1452
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If he was caving to the fans, he would have put Bryan in the match.
Yeah thats what I'm thinking. I don't think there was a clamoring for Rollins to win the title from the general fans.

Maybe he's saying Vince caved by not allowing Roman go over clean, but I don't know if that's caving as much as it is realizing that if you want a guy to be a mainstay in the company, and he obviously needs more time to position himself, then give him that, and allow a transitional guy to have a run.
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Old 03-30-2015, 12:10 AM   #1453
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Last year's wm was better

I respectfully disagree. Last year's Mania was pretty good, but I personally was more entertained by this year's Mania.
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Old 03-30-2015, 12:11 AM   #1454
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It was making something out of a situation they shouldn't have been stupid enough to get themselves into. The Reigns-Lesnar match went down but a win for either of them would have been a meh ending to too many people. Handing it to Rollins via an established gimmick saved Lesnar from being legitimately beaten and saved Reighs from crashing to the ground. Lesnar was robbed, Reigns was screwed, Rollins is now the biggest heel in WWE.
Ahh, okay I feel that.
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Old 03-30-2015, 12:11 AM   #1455
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I'll try to go over what I remember...
  • Tag Match was solid, well what I saw, anyway. There was a LOT of issues from the Network on my end. They wrote off the Uso very well. Also, the finish was brilliant. I don't get why they don't do more with Cesaro.
  • Battle Royal was cool. I liked Mizdow's face turn. Well played out. One thing I didn't like was Big Show winning. Way to push the youth movement, WWE.
  • Who was that Lanolin Grey dude?
  • Ladder match was ok, but I'm really not big on the spottiness of it. Also, the headbutt-a-thon was kind of ludicrous at the end. But the right guy won. Also, why isn't Harper higher up on the card? Seriously.
  • Orton vs. Rollins was a decent match. It was much more balanced than I expected. The finish was cool, but I hated the delay between the finish and the pin. Glad to see that spry new-comer Randy Orton go over the established veteran Seth Rollins. I'll discuss this a bit more in a bit.
  • Sting vs. HHH met expectations. It went on too long, was overbooked, Triple H blew up first, and he won. If anyone goes back to watch it, though. I strong recommend you do so on mute. You clearly heard Vince through all three of them. All I could think of during the entrance for Sting was "You know that Great Muta was a different guy, right?" And Triple H's entrance topped the Conan the Barbarian entrance for most ridiculous thing he ever did.
  • All I could think of during the musical performance was "And the Tag Match was pushed to the pre-show because...?"
  • Cena vs. Rusev met expectations as well. I loved Rusev's entrance. It was insanely awesome. But of course, Cena won. I think the only thing worse was how he won. Rusev is more or less dead at this point. Stick a fork in him, he is done.
  • It's insanely rare when Stephanie gets her comeuppance. Far too rare, if you ask me. And huge props to WWE for getting someone when they are at their most relevant for a change.
  • Taker vs. Wyatt was better than I thought. Taker did quite well for himself, though he looked really skinny. Of course he went over though, because we don't want to create new stars.
  • The Main Event was an intense spectacle. I thought halfway through the Reigns' strategy was going to be to rope-a-dope Lesnar into wearing himself out and then take advantage. That said, Rollins' cash in was PERFECT. I wasn't as pissed about Orton going over after that. Because it sets him up until, if they play their cards right, at least Summerslam. One day Reigns will be the guy. But Rollins' moment is now.
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Old 03-30-2015, 12:12 AM   #1456
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Right and everyone but you is the one who's butthurt over who won or lost.
Have you been off of the internet in the last hour or so to test this theory out or are you assuming all wrestling fans are represented here?

Because if they were, John Cena would have been future endeavored like 8 years ago.
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Old 03-30-2015, 12:13 AM   #1457
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Good god almighty that whole show was quite the impressive turn of events.
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Old 03-30-2015, 12:13 AM   #1458
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Oh no! Gertner disagrees with me for the one millionth time! What ever shall I do? ... Oh, wait, I've never cared about his opinion... Never mind I'll be fine.
Lol oh yes you do.
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Old 03-30-2015, 12:13 AM   #1460
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It was making something out of a situation they shouldn't have been stupid enough to get themselves into. The Reigns-Lesnar match went down but a win for either of them would have been a meh ending to too many people. Handing it to Rollins via an established gimmick saved Lesnar from being legitimately beaten and saved Reighs from crashing to the ground. Lesnar was robbed, Reigns was screwed, Rollins is now the biggest heel in WWE.

I agree with this 1000% percent.


All three men went over huge tonight. Lesnar still looks a major near unbeatable bad-ass, while Reigns showed that he had a lot of heart. The guy flat out sold me as a performer and entertainer tonight. And Rollins of course, played the chicken shit heel to perfection.
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You feel like Rollins winning was him caving to the fans?
It wasn't him giving the fans exactly what they wanted, no. It was however him caving at the last minute and realizing he'd made a terrible mistake and doing his damnedest to right the ship at the last possible moment.
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Seriously, Cena winning the US Title only makes sense if Lesnar wins and takes off til Summerslam
It also makes sense because smarks assume that because Cena and Bryan win it's an auto-win for Lesnar.

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Old 03-30-2015, 12:14 AM   #1463
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Have you been off of the internet in the last hour or so to test this theory out or are you assuming all wrestling fans are represented here?
No I'm referring to you accusing multiple people in this thread of having partisan opinions and denying that you do.

I know it's way past your bedtime but try to keep up.

It's a few minutes past mine so I'm off to bed.

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Old 03-30-2015, 12:15 AM   #1465
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Lol oh yes you do.
You're right... I'm sorry Gerty, can you ever forgive me?
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Old 03-30-2015, 12:15 AM   #1466
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It wasn't him giving the fans exactly what they wanted, no. It was however him caving at the last minute and realizing he'd made a terrible mistake and doing his damnedest to right the ship at the last possible moment.
And you're basing that off what exactly?
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No I'm referring to you accusing multiple people in this thread of having partisan opinions and denying that you do.
Holy fuck, half this thread has been me expressing a partisan opinion. lol You're really having trouble comprehending shit right now. I don't like Seth Rollins.

... Actually, I don't mind him per se. He's good in a certain spot. I just don't like him in the position he's in and find him to be so far from world champion material it's silly.

ON TOP OF THAT, my other point was that anyone who still complains about the ending of WrestleMania 9 and is perfectly fine with this and claims "logic" as their reasoning should stop trying to claim logic and just admit it comes down to the preference for the guy who won and who "got shafted". Basically I'm doing exactly that. Rollins winning was dumb because he's Seth Rollins. That's it.
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I vote you stop being a ridiculous person.
I vote you stop being a ridiculous person. Unfortunately this is 'Merica where individuals' votes don't actually make a different.
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Old 03-30-2015, 12:17 AM   #1469
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You're right... I'm sorry Gerty, can you ever forgive me?
You once compared me to Hitler in a thread that I hadn't even posted, nor was my name mentioned previously.

But my posting has no effect on you whatsoever
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Old 03-30-2015, 12:17 AM   #1470
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It wasn't him giving the fans exactly what they wanted, no. It was however him caving at the last minute and realizing he'd made a terrible mistake and doing his damnedest to right the ship at the last possible moment.
Do you think theres a chance that his thought process may be a little different than you're presuming? Like, maybe he doesn't feel like he "made a terrible mistake" and needs to "right the ship." Maybe this was the plan from the beginning.

Then again, that would mean "foresight" and I'm not gonna give WWE that much credit.

Caving just kinda implies he's "admitting to a fuck up" when in actuality, he may not think like this at all.
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And you're basing that off what exactly?
Lol the plan has been Reigns being christened at WM for months now. Pull your head out of your bum.
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is RVD still employed by WWE

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Not currently if I understand correctly, but the doors are always open for him. I think he has a similar with the WWE to that of Chris Jericho, in that, he can come back anytime and work 'x' number of dates/months before taking another sabbatical.
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Lol the plan has been Reigns being christened at WM for months now. Pull your head out of your bum.
Wasn't aware that I was talking to Pat Patterson here. What was it like attending all those booking meetings heading up to Wrestlemania?
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Lol the plan has been Reigns being christened at WM for months now. Pull your head out of your bum.
Not coming at you at all, but how do you know this? The set up, for the fans to see, was Reigns to win the title at Mania. But how do we know that was the PLAN from the jump? Dirtsheets?
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You once compared me to Hitler in a thread that I hadn't even posted, nor was my name mentioned previously.

But my posting has no effect on you whatsoever
Not really sure calling you Hitler in a thread from ages ago counts as caring what you think. Pretty sure I've never cared what Hitler thought either. Of course I do retract my Hitler comparison. You're not Hitler. You're more like a slightly agitated muppet or one of those yappy little dogs women put in their purse.
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Not coming at you at all, but how do you know this? The set up, for the fans to see, was Reigns to win the title at Mania. But how do we know that was the PLAN from the jump? Dirtsheets?
Ok, ok, I'll give you and Gerty a bone here. Yes, it's possible that this was the plan all along. It's also possible that there are sea monsters at the bottom of the ocean and aliens in Area 51. Doesn't mean those things are likely or even probable.
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Rusev is more or less dead at this point. Stick a fork in him, he is done.
  • Pretty solid analysis V, but I strongly disagree with the above. One thing the WWE has done extremely well with Rusev, is in building him up slowly. Rusev is an amazing talent, and I think he's got a bright future ahead of him. The WWE seem to be teasing a Rusev/Lana and I think this will further add to Rusev's heeldom.
Having said all that, I'm almost as down on Wyatt as you are with Rusev. Wyatt seems to have stagnated a bit and I hope the WWE's long term plan is to have Wyatt ultimately end Taker's career.
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Ok, ok, I'll give you and Gerty a bone here. Yes, it's possible that this was the plan all along. It's also possible that there are sea monsters at the bottom of the ocean and aliens in Area 51. Doesn't mean those things are likely or even probable.
You were just saying definitively "the plan was xyz" and then when we ask how do you know, you sorta back peddled in a round about way. im not saying that this was the plan all along. and im not saying it wasn't. i was just asking how YOU knew and what you were basing it off of, which apparently is dirtsheets/assumption, thats all. i still love you wish, i was just asking a question.
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