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Old 06-22-2015, 08:08 PM   #1
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You honestly believe that is Daniel Bryan did not comeback until the day after Mania Roman would have been getting booed out the building at every event post rumble?
Did I ever say that anywhere? No, no I did not. Of course Bryan coming back was what gave Reigns so much heat. Anyone who'd dispute that is a raging idiot.

Reigns was over with the fans for sure at that point. Nowhere near the level he should have been for what they wanted him to do, but he was very over. But guess who else was over as hell with fans? Zack Ryder.

Being over does not by any means equal "ready". Reigns wouldn't have gotten booed out of the building if Bryan hadn't come back but he'd still have been nowhere near where he needed to be to be "the man". His push was premature and completely mishandled, period.
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Old 06-22-2015, 09:32 PM   #2
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It's hard to argue with the HHH push of 2002-onward because it was just fucking annoying and his run in 2003 is what turned me off of the product for a good 7 years, the final straw being HHH/Nash Hell in a Cell.

However, HHH could still go for the most part at that time, but the 1999 heel push he received was just atrocious because barely anyone bought into it, and by the time he earned it/was ready in early 2000, he had already had 3 title reigns and 6 months of a bad main event push while the Rock feuded with Billy Gunn, The British Bulldog, Al Snow and Big Show while putzing around with the Rock and Sock Connection.
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Old 06-22-2015, 09:35 PM   #3
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Did I ever say that anywhere? No, no I did not. Of course Bryan coming back was what gave Reigns so much heat. Anyone who'd dispute that is a raging idiot.

Reigns was over with the fans for sure at that point. Nowhere near the level he should have been for what they wanted him to do, but he was very over. But guess who else was over as hell with fans? Zack Ryder.

Being over does not by any means equal "ready". Reigns wouldn't have gotten booed out of the building if Bryan hadn't come back but he'd still have been nowhere near where he needed to be to be "the man". His push was premature and completely mishandled, period.
How was it premature and mishandled besides for Bryan returning so soon? They were building him up for an entire year.
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Old 06-22-2015, 11:01 PM   #4
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How was it premature and mishandled besides for Bryan returning so soon? They were building him up for an entire year.
Really doesn't matter how you build him up, or for how long. If he doesn't have the talent to be there, then he's not ready.

And actually they really didn't do a very good job of building him up.

Being the ass kicker of the shield, and broke Kane's elimination record, which was a good start, but between that and the rumble win, he did nothing. Absolutely nothing of any signifigance. He had had a throwaway feud with Kane (fucking everyone has had a throwaway feud with Kane. It means nothing anymore.) and then he got hurt. Then he came back and won the rumble.

Most big time players have a long exciting journey to reaching the level of main eventer, and it makes seeing that wrestler win the championship really mean something. But Reigns didn't have that. He didn't have any memorable feuds, or have a solid run with the IC or US title. He was in a cool faction, and then all of a sudden he was just there, at the top of the card. That can work for world beaters like Goldberg or Ultimate Warrior (who still captured the Us and IC titles repectively in their meteoric rises.) but Reigns, while an intense personality, really isn't that guy.
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