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Old 07-06-2015, 10:54 AM   #1
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Why no?

It makes sense from a "legacy/storyline" viewpoint, i.e. Undertaker wants to avenge that defeat, Lesnar may not be in the title picture, hype it up as one of the biggest rematches of all time etc.
How does that make the WWE money?
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Old 07-06-2015, 12:47 PM   #2
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How does that make the WWE money?
How is anything else making the WWE any more or less money? Bryan winning the IC title? Ruseve dropping the US title to Cena? How did Taker v Lesnar at WM 30 make WWE money or Taker's matches prior to that? What about each and every match on the card? All money makers right?

Undertaker is still a draw and will be until he retires. Besides it's not like people tune in for the one match. A Taker v Lesnar rematch would be a decent draw especially if it's his last match. It wouldn't be a given that Taker would sign off with a win, we were dead cert Taker would remain unbeaten or that Sting just couldn't possibly lose to Triple H in his debut.

Also to go back to the money issue from a WM perspective,it's WM it WILL be a sellout or near to full capacity at Cowboys Stadium. You're not drawing fans locally, nationally but worldwide, WWE is a more "global" brand now than it ever has been regardless of what we all think of the quality of the product or feud etc. The event sells out months before the card is even announced.
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Old 07-06-2015, 01:39 PM   #3
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Undertaker is still a draw and will be until he retires. Besides it's not like people tune in for the one match. A Taker v Lesnar rematch would be a decent draw especially if it's his last match.
So Taker gets the win over the wrestler that has more momentum going for him than all of the active roster and then Taker retires. Not best for business.
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So Taker gets the win over the wrestler that has more momentum going for him than all of the active roster and then Taker retires. Not best for business.
What momentum would that be? You make it sound like Brock Lesnar is "flavour of the month" or "the In thing". Brock Lesnar always was a big deal, beating the Undertaker would never have changed that and losing to the Undertaker in a hypothetical rematch would do no harm either.

Also the only reason he has "momentum" is because WWE have been using him sparingly/part-time more to do with his terms and agreements. If he was week in week out then it may well be a different story.

If anyone has momentum it's Rollins and Ambrose.

Lesnar is seeming "bigger" than he was before because of his sporadic appearances and the air of unpredictably that's created.
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Old 07-06-2015, 03:26 PM   #5
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What momentum would that be? You make it sound like Brock Lesnar is "flavour of the month" or "the In thing". Brock Lesnar always was a big deal, beating the Undertaker would never have changed that and losing to the Undertaker in a hypothetical rematch would do no harm either.

Also the only reason he has "momentum" is because WWE have been using him sparingly/part-time more to do with his terms and agreements. If he was week in week out then it may well be a different story.

If anyone has momentum it's Rollins and Ambrose.

Lesnar is seeming "bigger" than he was before because of his sporadic appearances and the air of unpredictably that's created.
Brock Lesnar turned into an unstoppable badass since beating the streak, you don't have him lose to Taker who is retiring.

Ambrose has lost a lot of his momentum since MITB.
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Brock Lesnar turned into an unstoppable badass since beating the streak, you don't have him lose to Taker who is retiring.

Ambrose has lost a lot of his momentum since MITB.
The first point in bold; I keep saying, Lesnar was never portrayed as anything less be it during his first stint or current WWE run. His whole character, look etc fits that persona and makes no difference if he lost a match.

The second point: who better to "stop" him as it were than the man he beat some two years before? For me Taker v Lesnar is more of a story, closing a chapter i.e. Taker wanted to end on a winning note and beat the man he hasn't beaten at mania and who inflicted his only defeat. It would be a perfect way to sign off. Again it does no harm to Lesnar just like having Lesnar lose his first match back post WM-29 to Cena did no harm to his run/character.


I just think if WM 32 will be Taker's last WM then rather than having a boring Taker v Sting with all of the potential hype/charm ebbed away over the years, just throw him into a feud with Lesnar, that's more exciting i.e. Taker going on about the pain of that defeat and how it tears him up inside and how he can't retire not having avenged that defeat.

I find it odd that Undertaker never "addressed" that loss on TV obviously he didn't resurface until Wyatt called him out. But simply accepting the loss and "moving on".....doesn't seem like "the Undertaker way".

Besides the rematch would still have an air of unpredictability: will he or won't he avenge that defeat?


Apart from Sting which would be pointless who else is left? IMO he should have dropped the streak to Cena or possibly the Rock or Sting. None of those are options I think, Cena unless he's in the title picture or involved with another star.

I just can't imagine allowing the Undertaker character to retire without addressing that loss one way or another and it wouldn't be unrealistic nor far-fetched to expect the two to square off again given Taker went at it with Triple H, HBK and Kane more than once at WM.


Also going back to the "unstoppable" bit, Lesnar has pretty much been "unstoppable" since he returned in 2012 (he returned in 2012 right?) so losing to the Undertaker in 2016......quite a long stretch of being unstoppable even if appearances have been sporadic.

Undertaker v Sting should remain a pipe dream or better yet host it at another PPV and make that a huge draw e.g. Summer Slam, Survivor Series, maybe revive an old PPV like Starrcade etc?
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The first point in bold; I keep saying, Lesnar was never portrayed as anything less be it during his first stint or current WWE run. His whole character, look etc fits that persona and makes no difference if he lost a match.

The second point: who better to "stop" him as it were than the man he beat some two years before? For me Taker v Lesnar is more of a story, closing a chapter i.e. Taker wanted to end on a winning note and beat the man he hasn't beaten at mania and who inflicted his only defeat. It would be a perfect way to sign off. Again it does no harm to Lesnar just like having Lesnar lose his first match back post WM-29 to Cena did no harm to his run/character.
Lesnar portrayed a chicken shit heel for parts of 2003, like when he needed the FBI to help him to beat Taker. And when he returned in 2012 He lost to Cena and then lost a rematch to HHH. He didn't become the character he is today until he beat Undertaker at Mania.
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