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#121 |
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Maybe it is that he doesn't have big muscles / isn't "big" (really tall or fat) or that he wrestles with his shirt on
(this post is not meant to be "snarky"... trying to think of an actual answer for why he doesn't "seem" like "the guy") |
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#122 |
Triple A
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Oh a bunch of people already said that on the last page...
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#123 |
Hey Mister!
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His hair
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#124 |
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Yeah, but he's not small. I can see the comparisons to Austin/Foley as far as guys who have the personality to overcome not looking physically intimidating. But still, there's something not right.
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#125 |
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His personality (or at least how he has been booked since I've been watching regularly) doesn't seem anywhere near as good as Austin or Foley in my humble opinion
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#126 |
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No, it's not. I just mean he's "that type of guy". He's good at seeming like a badass without really looking like one.
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#127 |
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I know what you're saying. I feel the same way about Dolph Ziggler. In Dolph's case, I think that it might be because he's too "glossy," if you get what I mean. He reminds me of a dolphin -- sleek and shiny. I want to see more shark out of him -- sharp and grey.
And better analogies out of me. I totally get it with Ambrose though. He's got ring skill and natural charisma, but he's just lacking that extra dimension. It could be his attire, or his size. Not that he's small or not in shape, but that he kind of looks like he belongs places. When they had him hop on that train that time, I remember thinking "He looks like he could actually catch that train and blend in." I kind of want to see more promos from Ambrose. Like proper promos. Not just him talking for a comedy spot or whatever. I want him to explain his relationship with Roman Reigns and why he hates Bray Wyatt and Luke Harper heading into SummerSlam. He could also use a program with someone who could "make him." Triple H would be perfect on the heel side of things. If you turn Ambrose, Orton could be amazing. |
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#128 |
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Face Ambrose vs. Heel Jericho could be all kinds of cool.
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I thought Ambrose could be the man back during his initial feud with Rollins. His promos, his matches, how the near instantly gravitated to him made me think, if the machine got behind him and just let him do his thing, he could be shit red hot baby face. Of course that didn't happen, but he does have a way with connecting to the crowd that I think a majority of the roster lacks.
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#130 |
Grim Fandango
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Ambrose should definitely get some new ring attire, his anti-rollins "not really here to wrestle" deal ran it's course ages ago and just wearing jeans and a vest makes him look a bit half-assed / lazy.
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#131 |
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I like it.... symbol that he is "always" in "street fight mode".
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#132 |
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What aobut Rob Van Dam?
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#133 |
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Did anyone else notice the look Ambrose gave Reigns when Reigns called him "crazy" on RAW? Great stuff. One day these two will feud and it will be tremendous.
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#134 |
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Was thinking Reigns should snap on Ambrose after getting eliminated by him late in the Rumble, destroying him and costing him the match. Build up a blood feud going into Mania and reboot Reigns as bastard monster heel instead
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#135 |
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Reigns would make total sense as a killer heel (and will ironically get more cheers because of it), but the WWE seem pretty steadfast in their decision to make Reigns their poster boy.
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#136 |
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Thinking of ways to get Brock Lesnar off TV for a bit, I had this Russo-rific idea where Ambrose would turn on Reigns at SummerSlam and join The Wyatt Family. Not as a sheep that follows Wyatt, but as a sadistic son of a bitch who is more on par with Wyatt. Harper gives his life to Wyatt, but Ambrose just gives his fists.
After Lesnar beats Taker, The Wyatt Family storm the ring and dismantle Brock and Taker. There's three of them, and it's not like The Wyatt Family are exhausted. Heyman is screaming bloody murder to sell the attack. SummerSlam closes with Harper looking like he came in his jeans, Wyatt basking in his own greatness and Ambrose panting like a dog that just got the world's largest rabbit. It ties into the Brock/Taker story, as Bray wanted to be The New Face of Fear, but Taker beat him. It's them making the biggest impact to spread their message. Wyatt was also trying to convert Ambrose at one point. Wyatt's promos about fearing no Beast would work great too. Night of Champions rolls along and Reigns wants a piece of his "brother." Reigns knows he's going up against the odds, but Ambrose is still the cocky world-beater he was, and tells Bray and Harper that he doesn't need help. This is personal. Bray puts his head against Ambrose's and tells him to prove back the lion's head. Or something. They tear it down, and of course, being heels, Bray and Harper do get involved when it looks like Ambrose is in trouble and give him the win. Heading into Hell in a Cell, Brock and Taker make their respective returns for a six-man Cell against The Wyatt Family. Reigns gets the rub from being on a super-team based on, well, not respect, but on a "we can all kick each other's asses later" principle. Ambrose, Wyatt and Harper would get a huge kick out of working with Lesnar and Taker too. In this scenario, you could easily swap Reigns and Ambrose around. |
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#137 |
Father of Hinduship
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Roman Reigns should be the next face - keep him friends with Ambrose
Based on what I saw last night, I think Reigns should clearly be the next "face" of the WWE.
He's underrated as a performer, and he has the necessary look. As much as I like Cesaro, he doesn't have the presence as a performer (something I really noticed last night). Reigns is definitely that guy. One thing I'd do to keep him over, is keep his friendship in-tact with Dean Ambrose. Have Ambrose be the Scott Hall to Reigns' Kevin Nash, or the Ken to Reigns' Ryu (or the Kung Lao to Reigns' Liu Kang). |
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#138 |
Spammy Certified
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He will always be rejected, although I think he could work as a heel. WWE fans are not going to want to sit through another 12 years of "Cena 2.0"
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#139 |
Large Marge sent me
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Who should be the next feces of the company?
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#140 |
Spammy Certified
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Matt Hardy
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#141 | |
Father of Hinduship
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Kids are extremely impressionable, as post 2005 Cena has proven. Kids are the largest demographic in the WWE, even if the WWE has shifted away from the PG era. In 2017 - if we start getting, "LETS GO ROMAN, ROMAN SUCKS!" chants, it would still likely be the greatest thing to ever happen to Roman Reigns and the WWE. |
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#142 |
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But Cena wasn't instantly rejected, in fact he was very well liked on all accounts. Also I don't see Roman moving merch like Cena.
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#143 |
Quark is Less Impressed.
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Roman Reigns wasn't instantly rejected as a Shield member. He was rejected on his own though. But Cena is the reason he was rejected because he was seen as the next Cena by the fans.
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#144 |
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Right and Cena didn't start to get rejected until a few months AFTER winning the belt.
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#145 |
shisen sucks all the cock
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Heyman has tunnel vision like a fuck. He cant stop posting the same roman reigns in 17 concept
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I don't think it's tunnel vision if it seems very obvious. With the exception of Seth Rollins and/or Kevin Owens, can you really see the WWE "machine" getting behind anyone else as "the next face of the company" I can't see it. I wouldn't mind being proven wrong, but I just can't see anyone else besides Roman being given that spot. Whether we want to admit it or not, Roman is the WWE's guy, and they're clearly grooming him to take the "reigns" (lol) from Cena. |
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#147 |
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Wasn't it like half a year after winning the belt? Feels like it wasn't until Summer Slam 05 that the crowd started to shift on him.
The thing with Reigns is he was over as a member of the Shield and his shortcomings were masked in a group where you could limit his mic and ring work while highlighting his strengths. Doesn't work that way in a singles push. Even then, think the rejection came from having zero momentum and build and being over pushed into the Mania main event. They overplayed their card on Reigns and now they're trying to rebuild him. I don't agree with Heyman that last night showed he's the future. Still feel like he's just spinning his wheels character wise. |
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#148 |
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A heel turn last night would've done wonders for him.
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#149 |
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I still maintain that Cena should have had a harder road to the title. They rolled out the red carpet for him, and people see through that shit these days.
Reigns turning heel would work. It will make him "cooler," and in time, that could get him really fucking over with fans. Look at how it is working with The New Day. Look at how it worked for The Rock, and even Daniel Bryan. They'd probably turn Ambrose before Reigns, but Ambrose is going to get cheered for killing Reigns, whereas Reigns is going to get fucking BOOED for killing Ambrose. Now that there are three Wyatt Family guys, who backs up Reigns & Ambrose? Cesaro? Do they even get a third member? Constant beatings could lead to the split between Ambrose & Reigns, but maybe just doing a six-man where The Shield wins is better. |
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#150 |
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Fandango. The answer is always Fandango.
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#151 |
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Who could be the new Shield member? Fandango
Who should have ended Taker's streak? Fandango Who is the man that would risk his life for his brother, man? Fandango Can you dig it? |
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#152 |
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Love Fandango, but I don't really know where they go with him. Truthfully, I'd like it if they injected him into the Ziggler vs. Rusev feud. He's already had a televised thing with Rusev, but if he tried to creepily win back Summer and pissed off Rusev, it could actually make for some good mid-card television. That obviously takes Johnny Curtis into the main event.
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#153 |
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Thinking about what Heyman has said about Cesaro, as much as I love the guy, maybe it is best if they keep him to working in the tag team scene? I was thinking today about just how much awesome there is in a Cesaro/Dolph Ziggler tag team. Cesaro may not be the guy who draws money, and Dolph might not be the guy they want to draw money; but together you'd have an absolutely incredible tag team. Throw together some more awesome teams (like maybe Owens/Rusev), and you can SmackDown Six these guys.
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#154 |
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If Lana and Natalya backed-up Dolph & Cesaro each (a lot of ringside extras, granted), Summer Rae could find someone and you could do some ladies tag matches as well. Nattie, Dolph & Cesaro "training" Lana and turning her into one bad-ass female competitor could be a nice story.
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#155 |
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Random question, Noid: Have you ever played EWR/TEW? Because I feel like you would enjoy them greatly.
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#156 |
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I think I looked into one of them once, but it was so long ago that I cannot actually remember playing it.
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#157 |
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I'd like to book a wrestling company with you one day, fan. I think if we can just agree that Alex Riley has got something we can use, we'd have Fandango as a top guy stealing the show every night.
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#158 |
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Fuck, how good would Johnny Curtis be as an Authority second right now? Rollins is THE guy, but Curtis could be the "next guy" and be chewing scenery and building credibility.
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#159 |
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I think me, Vito and loopy are the only ones who still play occasionally. There's a thread in the video game forum and such. But yes. Seems right down your alley.
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#160 |
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