DISCUSSION - Which FACE will "face" Triple H at Wrestlemania 21?, other thoughts

[Mayo]

Originally Posted by Heyman -It's WAY too early to turn Orton face.

Orton is already getting pops like crazy, so if Randall breaks off from Evolution (either by saying he's too big for it, or that he wants to be leader and then feuds with HHH, etc.) then I see the fans getting behind him pretty easily. I don't think he should be headlining a Wrestlemania yet though, I think WM 22 would be better for Mr. Orton.

Originally Posted by Heyman -Taker gets a long title reign....defeating Bradshaw, Big Show (who returns), Angle, and Eddie Guerrero.....all cleanly.

Taker burying all of those guys would definitely hurt them a lot more than it would hurt Taker. He should be jobbing to up and coming talent at this stage of his career instead of taking the spotlight. I say he should beat one or two of them because of a Ref mistake, double knockout, etc. so that he doesn't look too invincible but keeps the title.

I wouldn't mind seeing The Rock main event Wrestlemania, but he will probably be fighting someone else to put them over (Orton, Cena, etc.). HHH should face someone like Y2J or RVD after great booking to make either of those guys respected main eventers again. We know that the crowd would be behind them, and they can both put on a great match. Jericho is better than RVD on the mic, so I would drool over Jericho going over HHH for the World title.

[Heyman]

Originally Posted by Mayo Orton is already getting pops like crazy, so if Randall breaks off from Evolution (either by saying he's too big for it, or that he wants to be leader and then feuds with HHH, etc.) then I see the fans getting behind him pretty easily. I don't think he should be headlining a Wrestlemania yet though, I think WM 22 would be better for Mr. Orton.

Orton is getting popped because the fans LOVE to hate him. Think of Triple H back in 2000/2001. It's almost the same thing. However - were the fans as enthusiastic when Triple H turned face? How about Kurt Angle? Angle was also a guy who got the "we love to hate you" reaction. As a face however, Angle was bland.

I think Orton would be the same way. Orton's "holier than thou" attitude only works as a heel. What would he do as a face? I think after a month or so, Orton would get lukewarm reactions as a face. Edge is another example of what I'm talking about.


If Orton were to turn face, he'd have to act "differently" from how he does now.

My opinion - Keep Orton heel for now.

Taker burying all of those guys would definitely hurt them a lot more than it would hurt Taker.

True, but it would be a tradeoff. Taker burying the others would hurt them, but it would also make Cena (or Guerrero) going over Taker to look even MORE impressive. Since Cena or Guerrero will be the future draw for this company, it's arguably more important to make them look as good as possible.

I wouldn't mind seeing The Rock main event Wrestlemania, but he will probably be fighting someone else to put them over (Orton, Cena, etc.). HHH should face someone like Y2J or RVD after great booking to make either of those guys respected main eventers again. We know that the crowd would be behind them, and they can both put on a great match. Jericho is better than RVD on the mic, so I would drool over Jericho going over HHH for the World title.

If RVD or Jericho EVER got re-pushed to the point where they'd fight Triple H in the WM main-event, I'd be the happiest fan alive. ...ESPECIALLY in Jericho's case.

The Rock vs. Orton or Cena also sounds good (although I'm sure the interest for those matches would be MUCH greater around WM-22....when Cena/Orton would be established champs by then).