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Old 08-25-2015, 09:27 AM   #801
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Really, really want Sting to win. I do think they're going to go down the "Hey, you have two titles now, you gotta defend them both..." path, and have Rollins work with Cena, then play bouncy ball for Sting.
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Throw that in there with The Dudley Boyz challenging for the WWE Tag Team Titles, and you have a pretty surreal PPV.
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I've got a feeling that if Sting felt he shouldn't go over Triple H at WrestleMania, then he probably doesn't want to de-rail Seth and win the World Heavyweight Championship. In fact, he'll probably insist John Cena beat Rollins and he doesn't...
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Old 08-25-2015, 09:32 AM   #804
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Still not feeling Braun Stowman in the role he's in. Seems very...hapless out there. Not experienced enough for this shit. And now that Sting is facing Rollins, who does that leave for Reigns & Ambrose? Orton? Cesaro? A 2-on-3 Handicap Match?
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Depending on what happens with Lesnar, if he angrily "goes home" because of the bullshit finish to his match, Taker joining The Shield against The Wyatts could be a thing. He wouldn't have to work too much in a 6-man and you'd add another major name to a B-level PPV card that's already SummerSlam worthy.
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PTP/New Day/Dudleys/Lucha Dragons/Los Matadores TLC clusterfuck match. I'll pay for that.
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Sting, The Dudleys, John Cena and Ryback as the champions would just be a crazy encapsulation of every era in modern wrestling all at once. A picture should be tweeted if that happens.
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Plus Fandango as the holder of the newly reinstated European Championship.
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We can do better than European title for Fandango.

Million Dollar Title.
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Old 08-25-2015, 10:19 AM   #811
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My problem with the clusterfucks is that no one gives a shit about Los Matadores or Lucha Dragons right now. And that's sad. The New Day really should have beaten two jobbers on RAW or something. Would have emphasized The Dudleys returning as being huge stars. Also, a lowly match for The New Day would have been great to build their heat as punk heels that suck up to The Authority.

Lucha Dragons should have beaten The Ascension on Superstars, and then they should move onto a program with Diego y Fernando on SmackDown. You know, to actually build tag teams to challenge for the Titles down the track? Dragons win the first match, and the following week, Diego y Fernando do a quirky interview segment where they put the Dragons over, but claim it was a fluke and that they know they can beat Sin Cara y Kalisto. Second match, they lose to the Dragons again. Third times the charm right? Matadores win that match when they use the tights or something, and initiate a proper heel turn.

Going from that, The Lucha Dragons can work with Los Matadores in singles matches. Sin Cara and Fernando were actually a tag team in FCW, so I bet they have good chemistry. Have Fernando win that match, because Sin Cara is lower priority than Kalisto -- who does manage to beat Diego.

This all builds to Masks vs. Masks, which The Dragons win, forcing Diego y Fernando to reveal themselves as Epico & Primo Colon -- former WWE Tag Team Champions. The Colons then attack Lucha Dragons in a rage, coming out of their masked personas with a new vengeance, and start cutting promos about how they were The Crown Princes of Puerto Rico but get no respect in the WWE.

That thing could go on for months and make for some fun lower-card programming that could actually get everyone over.
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Old 08-25-2015, 10:22 AM   #812
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I think The Prime Time Players get their rematch on RAW or SmackDown sometime, and get put through tables to send a message to The Dudley Boyz. No need to book too many teams for Night of Champions -- it'll dilute the match and things may not get into a proper rhythm. The Dudleys can be the face challengers; The New Day the heel champions. Simple. The Prime Time Players make their return at the PPV, take out Xavier Woods, and The Dudleys 3D their way to a tenth WWE Tag Team Title.

On RAW, The Dudleys claim that they don't need help to win championships, and actually take issue with Darren Young & Titus O'Neil sticking their noses in their business. Young & O'Neil mouth off a little bit and stand up for themselves, and you include them in the title picture with some build.
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Stowman's call-up really is an odd one the more I think about it. Unless I missed something he's never wrestled a match at Full Sail. Only has done NXT house shows and the like. Given WWE's emphasis on building NXT as a true developmental system with the same ring size, camera set up, etc. that they'll see on Raw it seems kinda hypocritical to call somebody up with very little experience.

Pretty clear it just came down to the fact that he looks the part with the size and beard. I'm sure Rowan would have gotten the spot if he were healthy.
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Still maintain that Jimmy Uso turning heel would have been more of a moment. The black sheep thing could have even worked for him. He's sick of being on the sidelines and waiting, whilst his brother sits at home hurt, and his other family member steals the spotlight. "Anyone but you, Roman..."
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Old 08-25-2015, 10:37 AM   #815
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Jey Uso could have gone on Twitter -- "I don't know anything about this. Bro, what's going on?" Naomi could have supported her husband "We're doing what we have to do to get noticed around here".
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Jey Uso could have come back fighting for his brother's soul. Bray could have ordered Jimmy to destroy him. Maybe Jimmy does and you trial a feud, ending with Jey winning and getting Jimmy back. Or if the heel shtick is working, you can keep Jimmy bad and have Jey continue as being a good guy on his own and see if he gets anywhere. You can always bring them back together later.
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Expect a Lock Jaw rep for that USSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSOOOOOOOOO storyline.
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Here's the thing with Stowman...

I had this thought when I had the idea for a female Brock Lesnar-type to come in and be the fucking unbeatable beast that brings all other divas up. If she goes through NXT and does the typical run... she's human. Since NXT is no longer a "hidden" development brand, everything is pretty much part of the whole system. It's tougher to have someone just be competitive there and then come to the main roster and be UNSTOPPABLE.

I feel the same way about Stowman. If they have confidence in him, this is for the best. With FCW, you could let him go through the motions and then bring him to the main roster fresh. That's not an option with NXT now. If they had confidence in him, this was the way to do it. Especially since he's got a backstory related to sister Abigail. Now he seems legitimately like some rogue guy that Bray just introduced us to and not some guy who was from Bray's past who "Had to work his way through the ranks to get here" for some weird reason.
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I like the new Wyatt being someone new that hasn't even competed on NXT. It breaks the mold of everyone needs to go through NXT. I believe this was the best way to go instead of bringing in Leo Kruger, Rowan, Uso, or someone else repackaged.
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Not only that but if he doesn't work out as planned, throw him back to NXT, try to fix what didn't work, then bring him back repackaged and you're pretty much in the same spot you would have been anyway.

If he DOES work out, you accomplished something that an NXT run would have ruined from the get-go. Like I said, he's got a background at the moment that doesn't fit with the "worked his way up through the rasslin' ranks" story.
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This Stowman thing could go either way. I know this seems like a ridiculous comparison, but I immediately though of Zeus when they did that angle yesterday. Stand there, no sell, do little. He hit a cool move which is more than Zeus did, but still. Cool we have a monster, could get over, but less is more with this dude. Hope they remember that.
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I just don't think he looked scary enough. He's legitimately strong, but he just doesn't scream "intense" enough yet.
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But you're right -- you can't have this guy taking arm drags in the second match, as Jim Cornette would put it.
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Watching the hulu replay, out comes Heyman and Lesnar, and fuck me Byron Saxton sucks so much balls. I was mentioning in another thread how scripted and generally force fed Michael Cole sounds, but Saxton is miles worse. Why is he on the show?
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Hope Stowman is booked as this monster of the Wyatt's and eventually could have Bray be the one to actually stop him. Could be Brays face turn if Stowman can get over enough with the Wyatt family and persuaded Harper to join him and leave Bray. Then have Rowan return to team with face Wyatt.
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Old 08-25-2015, 01:40 PM   #827
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What if they had Sting all in bronze so when they lifted the fabric up you'd still think it was the statue until you see his face and he started moving.
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That sounds awesome actually. It'd be the next step after he showed up on the tron and JBL claimed it was only a photo.
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The Bronze Stinger, sounds like Surfer Sting got a spay on tan.
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Stone Cold should have been in the box. Middle fingers, stunner, BBQ Sauce.

He stopped Vince, he can stop Vince's successors.

Then show Vince in the back eating some cake and his mouth just drops open in shock as he sees this on the screen and Raw comes to a close.

Woulda been a cool thing to do on Vince's birthday.
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So I'm watching the Cena/Stewart segment, which is gold by the way, and yeah, Cena comes off as a complete bullyagainst Stewart. The explanation given was genuine, the apology and acceptance of wrong doing was genuine, and while it's a inherited risk by putting your hands on an athlete, Stewart was clearly remorseful in a way not comparable to a manager like Bobby Heenan, Jimmy Hart, etc
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Cena heel turn confirmed.
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Depending on what happens with Lesnar, if he angrily "goes home" because of the bullshit finish to his match, Taker joining The Shield against The Wyatts could be a thing. He wouldn't have to work too much in a 6-man and you'd add another major name to a B-level PPV card that's already SummerSlam worthy.


Are you fucking retarded? Jesus it took some balls for you to call me a bad poster especially when you present an idea not only stupid, but that makes no fucking sense from a storyline aspect. It's almost like you don't pay attention to things then type out horrendous ideas, then insult people cause they think your stupid idea was stupid. And this is a king shit level of a stupid idea.
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Lol if only. People would cheer him. Feel the only way heel Cena would ever work is to have him be a complete corporate sell out who shills his own merch, and turns the hustle, loyalty and respect gimmick into a parody of his current self.
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Yea I have a feeling they had to do a lot of last minute editing to RAWs script because of how bad Undertaker looked when he was leaving the ring at SS. If I recall, wasn't he supposed to be at RAW? I dunno, but I think he will be taking a hiatus for a while now.
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you finally say one quality redeemable thing, you just went up a level in my book, you are now at level 1
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So is it Braun Stowman or Braun Strowman? Cuz WWE added an 'R' in their media.
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So, JBL said the Dudleys have won 24 world tag team championships between them, 9 of which were the WWE Tag Team Championship. I'm looking at their Wikipedia page, but it's just not adding up.

WWE - 9
WCW - 1
ECW - 8
IWGP - 2
NWA - 1
TNA - 2

That's only 23. They've won two other random tag team championships in smaller promotions, but those definitely aren't world tag team championships.

Did one of them win a tag championship with someone else?
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He was a Rose Bud, nearly every week.

Per WWE, there is a R in StRowman.
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