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Old 08-30-2015, 11:00 PM   #41
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tho i dunno about "luck" being involved when you are 500 pounds.
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Old 08-30-2015, 11:00 PM   #42
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Old 08-30-2015, 11:07 PM   #43
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Owen Hart's entire career was bad luck, from his team with Koko making him look silly, to being in Bret's shadow, never reaching the levels everyone knew he deserved, and finally his death. Just damn tragic.
Now that you mention it Owen does seem like he was a much better fit than Bret to be The Guy he was the all around performer and a much, much, better talker I just don't get what people saw in Bret (who IMO as good as he is he is an insomniac cure)that Owen had in spades.

As far as unlucky wrestlers go I was gonna say Regal but that was his own doing(sadly) so I'll say Brutus Beefcake no amount of money can soothe the pain of being Hogans lifelong bitch.
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Old 08-30-2015, 11:11 PM   #44
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Owen was not the better fit than Bret. Rose coloured glasses my friend.
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Old 08-30-2015, 11:15 PM   #45
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Owen was not the better fit than Bret. Rose coloured glasses my friend.
Care to explain? Bret was a better wrestler but Owen was a jack of stats and he had a personality.
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Old 08-30-2015, 11:18 PM   #46
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Also, if Beefcake was unlucky about anything, it was getting his face smashed in a parasailing accident, it's been highlighted already that him being Hogan's bitch was possibly the most lucky thing which happened to him... given that he wasn't all that great (though I didn't think he was terrible in his short lived prime, had a certain appeal to him).
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Old 08-30-2015, 11:22 PM   #47
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As far as lucky/badass I'll say Undertaker being set on fire twice within seconds and that just made him stomp to the ring faster.
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Old 08-30-2015, 11:23 PM   #48
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Care to explain? Bret was a better wrestler but Owen was a jack of stats and he had a personality.
Owen is more of a Chris Jericho type. Amazing in his own way, but could never be a flag barer like Bret. Bret didn't have the Hulk Hogan and rock panache and pizzazz, but he connected with audiences because of his authenticity, similar to a Steve Austin (probably why they blended so well together when they worked). Owen wasn't exactly gang busters on the mic, but he was pretty good, but let's get serious "Kick your leg out of your leg" isn't exactly the work of a wordsmith. Bret carried himself like a motherfucking champion, win, lose or draw.... heel or face. Owen was great, but he didn't have "the guy" appeal.
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Old 08-30-2015, 11:32 PM   #49
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Bret had a certain swagger about him. Even watching it now, when he walks to the ring, with the shades and the jacket, he just had it. He was also a natural babyface.
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Old 08-30-2015, 11:33 PM   #50
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Also, if Beefcake was unlucky about anything, it was getting his face smashed in a parasailing accident, it's been highlighted already that him being Hogan's bitch was possibly the most lucky thing which happened to him... given that he wasn't all that great (though I didn't think he was terrible in his short lived prime, had a certain appeal to him).
I forgot about his accident as far as him having appeal I suppose, my brother loved him which confounds me to this day.

Can we call Pillman unlucky I'm probably alone but I felt he could have been so huge in the attitude era injury just killed it but at the same time he was still amazing on the mic and compelling as hell to watch.
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Old 08-31-2015, 12:11 AM   #51
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Old 08-31-2015, 01:36 AM   #52
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JBL was lucky. Went from being an under card tag team brawler with no depth to main eventer for over a year and incredibly lengthy title run because, quote, Triple H didn't wanna work Tuesdays. But seriously, his heel push came completely outta nowhere and had Lesnar not left WWE and Angle not been legit injured, JBL doesn't get to the main event that quickly, if at all, seeing as once he dropped the belt he jobbed to other main eventers or only saw extended success in the midcard.
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Old 08-31-2015, 01:59 AM   #53
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Old 08-31-2015, 01:59 AM   #54
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Jeff Hardy is one lucky guy!

With the bumps he has taken and his history of substance abuse I'm shocked he isn't in a wheel chair, or worse. Hell, I'm shocked he is seen as employable by any company for as long as he was.
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Old 08-31-2015, 02:00 AM   #55
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Would "unlucky" guys be the ones who were finally "breaking out" in 2001..... right before WCW folded? Shane Helms, Elix Skipper, Kronik, O'Hare, Palumbo, Staziak, Jindrak were all hitting their strides and putting on great matches in those final months of WCW and then never really found that "place" after that....
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Matt hardy on the unlucky list. His brother gets the talent, less fat of a face,better hair. Then of course his girl gets edged
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How about Daniels and Modest half killing themselves and getting a WCW contract.... then the company folding shortly after? Daniels has gone on to still have a spotlight career, unfortunately Modest didn't.
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When I saw the title of the thread, I immediate thought of Kevin Von Erich for the unluckiest part, but then I saw that incorporating deaths wasn't allowed.

I don't know who I would say is the unluckiest, but a good few names I agree with have been given.

However, I'd say the luckiest is probably X-Pac.

I can't imagine X-Pac even being around if he wasn't part of "The Kliq". If he wasn't such good friends with Shawn Michaels and Co., he would have probably just remained as a jobber under "The Kid" name and he wouldn't even have lasted a year.

Now, I'm sure he's most likely going to be a Hall of Famer sometime in the future.
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Old 08-31-2015, 05:13 AM   #59
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Putting X-pac in the hall of fame because he was in DX is one step above putting Mongo in the hall of fame because he was in the horsemen.
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Old 08-31-2015, 06:20 AM   #60
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Kennedy is the first that comes to mind, but with that already said; Nick Dinsmore.

Was considered a stand-out in OVW, with excellent in-ring credentials, called up to the main roster and saddled with the "Eugene" gimmick; something that's hard to bounce back from.

Sort of a double-edged sword as he was ridiculously over at the time, and no doubt has dined out on that character for years after, but he never stood a chance of being repackaged/used in a more legitimate way.
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Modest never would have gotten over. Great wrestler, but he has not an ounce of magnetism about him. He also looks like Kevin Sullivan's and Rugged Ronnie Garvin's love child, which is not a good thing lol
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Also, if Beefcake was unlucky about anything, it was getting his face smashed in a parasailing accident, it's been highlighted already that him being Hogan's bitch was possibly the most lucky thing which happened to him... given that he wasn't all that great (though I didn't think he was terrible in his short lived prime, had a certain appeal to him).
Lol well "luckily" he was Hogan's boy because he got to tag with him against Money Inc at Wrestlemania 9
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Old 08-31-2015, 08:50 AM   #63
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Luckiest has to be Hornswoggle.I mean, dude's a leprechaun, right?
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Matt hardy on the unlucky list. His brother gets the talent, less fat of a face,better hair. Then of course his girl gets edged
Matt is actually the wrestler of the two no one notices cause his brother is backflipping of the top of the arena and Matt is an okay talker and in certain gimmicks that showed. Jeff Sucks on the mic period but he was born with weird charisma his brother just lacks it is sad there was a photo of the two of them a while back that had them posing with their titles Jeff with the WWE title and Matt with the ECWWE title that photo said it all.
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Old 08-31-2015, 01:32 PM   #67
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Putting X-pac in the hall of fame because he was in DX is one step above putting Mongo in the hall of fame because he was in the horsemen.
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Old 08-31-2015, 01:37 PM   #68
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Unluckiest - Will probably have to go with Daniel Bryan. After his Wrestlemania victory(ies) over Evolution, Bryan had the chance of replacing Cena as "the face" of the WWE, and we all know what happened. As Bret said, Bryan's career is likely over - Daniel just doesn't know it yet.


Luckiest - Kevin Nash. Make friends with the right people + throwing up a few cool hand signs = millions of dollars. Go figure.
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Daniel Bryan being mentioned here, made me think of somebody else, given Bryan's success and still leaving that tremendous void of untapped potential.

hb2k, (not so) secretly hoping you catch this. but maybe not unluckiest but still quite unlucky, has to be Ricky Steamboat. He was one of the all time greats, but in the WWF he was on his way up with the epic match vs. Savage at Mania III and being mega popular, but his dipute with Vince assured he would never be able to reach great heights under Vince's employment.

He obviously did very well in NWA/WCW with Flair after, but a main event WWF run really would have been something special for the Dragon, one of the all time great babyfaces. He reminds me of Daniel Bryan, as whenever they seem on the verge of true greatness , something happens just to keep them underneath the glass ceiling. The fact that the two are the absolute ultimate babyface types sort of ties them together for me. Both are all time great workers, who accumulated great success with memorable matches and moments, with major title wins.... but something always seemed to get in the way, keeping them JUST below the ultimate upper echelon.
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I think Matt Cappotelli has to be very high on the unlucky list. He looked every bit as promising coming out of Tough Enough as John Hennigan/Nitro/Morrison/Mundo, and had some really entertaining stuff in OVW with his fellow TE winner and guys like Jeter and Skyfire. He had a ton of potential until injuries and then finally a tumor brought his career to a screeching halt. Would he have been a mega star? Probably not. But it's terribly unlucky that he never got his shot at the "big time."
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Old 08-31-2015, 05:08 PM   #75
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X Pac was awesome in the ring you jew.
This is true for all the hate he gets the dude is solid.
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Old 08-31-2015, 06:29 PM   #78
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Old 08-31-2015, 07:00 PM   #79
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I actually went to Toronto this weekend for the sole purpose of fighting Dale Newstead but he didn't show up.
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Old 08-31-2015, 07:05 PM   #80
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Did you tell him you were gonna book the ring and then post a fight location of a woman's gym that doesnt have one? Always a classic move
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