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Old 10-07-2015, 11:18 AM   #1
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If the plan was such a brilliant one, why didn't it draw bigger business?
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Old 10-09-2015, 07:24 PM   #2
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If the plan was such a brilliant one, why didn't it draw bigger business?


Sorry guys - limits on my time but I'll try and respond to as many posts as possible.


I would argue that the plan was brilliant, and that the time period between Summerslam 2013 and Wrestlemania 30 was probably the hottest that the WWE had been in years. Not sure if the ratings reflected this at all (haven't checked), but the Daniel Bryan 'Yes!' movement was probably the most over thing that the WWE had in about a decade or so. Daniel Bryan became even more popular after fans (both marks and IWC) perceived him being held back.


Who knows where the business would be today if Bryan's career hadn't been derailed after Mania that year.
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Old 10-09-2015, 10:23 PM   #3
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I would argue that the plan was brilliant, and that the time period between Summerslam 2013 and Wrestlemania 30 was probably the hottest that the WWE had been in years. Not sure if the ratings reflected this at all (haven't checked), but the Daniel Bryan 'Yes!' movement was probably the most over thing that the WWE had in about a decade or so. Daniel Bryan became even more popular after fans (both marks and IWC) perceived him being held back.


Who knows where the business would be today if Bryan's career hadn't been derailed after Mania that year.
Exactly. Bryan was over huge at Mania. Its not like WWE planned for Bryan to get hurt and make the previous 8 months of build a waste of time.
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I think the issue isn't that Vince & Co. didn't see Bryan as a main event level talent at all, instead they just didn't see Bryan as a potential Wrestlemania main event headliner.

In other words, Vince & Co. realized they needed someone to fill the Cena void while he was out. They decided to have Bryan main event and beat Cena at Summerslam. Then they said, we'll screw Bryan out of the title for Bryan to have a brief main event program with Orton, "Authority", etc. until Cena gets back and then we'll move Bryan into another non-main event program or two (Wyatt and then Sheamus) in time for Mania.

Again, not that they didn't see Bryan as main event material at all, they just didn't view him as Wrestlemania main event, top of the card, headliner material.
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I think the issue isn't that Vince & Co. didn't see Bryan as a main event level talent at all, instead they just didn't see Bryan as a potential Wrestlemania main event headliner.

In other words, Vince & Co. realized they needed someone to fill the Cena void while he was out. They decided to have Bryan main event and beat Cena at Summerslam. Then they said, we'll screw Bryan out of the title for Bryan to have a brief main event program with Orton, "Authority", etc. until Cena gets back and then we'll move Bryan into another non-main event program or two (Wyatt and then Sheamus) in time for Mania.

Again, not that they didn't see Bryan as main event material at all, they just didn't view him as Wrestlemania main event, top of the card, headliner material.
This.

If you go and watch the Daniel Bryan "Monster" video, they don't even include the Cena vs. Bryan match in there. It cuts from Bryan "challenging" for the WWE Title (with no previous mention of his World Heavyweight Title win or subsequent WWE Title wins either), to getting screwed to his issues with The Authority. It's not one big glorious story.
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Old 10-07-2015, 11:24 AM   #6
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By the way, for clarification: I never thought CyNick was being arrogant until recently when I saw him insulting the intelligence of people for not getting what he is laying out whilst completely misrepresenting their points. This all happened in other threads. I have no ill-will towards him as a person, and have often expressed my love to him. He certainly injected some life here until his posts became repetitive in their strawman tactics and I now miss a lot of them (sincerely try to read everyone's).

I'm guilty of the same thing towards him, but I am Evil Noid and do whatever the fuck I want.

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Old 10-07-2015, 11:25 AM   #7
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Old 10-07-2015, 12:20 PM   #9
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"Why would they put someone cleanly over John Cena if they didn't have a long term angle for them?"

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Old 10-12-2015, 12:52 PM   #11
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"Why would they put someone cleanly over John Cena if they didn't have a long term angle for them?"

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Owens beating to Cena was to establish Owens as a top guy right off the bat. Again, would you prefer he was booked like Neville?
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So why would Daniel Bryan say otherwise in interviews both within and outside the company? CyNick's lame excuse was Bryan was protecting kayfabe, even though speaking about behind the scenes conversations breaks kayfabe.

So what reason does Daniel Bryan have to lie about the original pitch he received pertaining to his mania spot?
It's like Inception; kayfabe within kayfabe.
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I don't know. You, or whoever said it, was right. CyNick has a way, whether he's serious or not, of getting you to keep trying to reason with him long after it's clear that that isn't possible. Before you know it you're on page 7.
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I dont need people to reason with me. When I read guys like you bitch about the product non stop, it makes me glad that I dont agree with you, because I still look forward to watching RAW every week, hence why I continue to watch.

The ironic thing is guys like you actually cant take that I dont agree with the IWC sheep mentality that you buy into. Thats not meant as an insult to you individually, rather the group you.
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I dont need people to reason with me. When I read guys like you bitch about the product non stop, it makes me glad that I dont agree with you, because I still look forward to watching RAW every week, hence why I continue to watch.

The ironic thing is guys like you actually cant take that I dont agree with the IWC sheep mentality that you buy into. Thats not meant as an insult to you individually, rather the group you.
I guess it's great to have painfully low expectations.
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I guess it's great to have painfully low expectations.
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In all honesty, it's fine that you enjoy the product. No one has a problem with that. But when you start to argue actual points about the merits of product and then do stuff like you're doing in that Rollins thread below (see: CyNick thread #217), people are going to point out how troll-ish you come off.
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I come off trollish for defending why I enjoy the product? Or why I dont buy into the theory that WWE is terrible at booking even though they continue to be wildly successful?

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WWE sheep.
So you keep paying to read the Observer, I'll continue to watch WWE
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Old 10-12-2015, 09:46 PM   #28
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Yeah, I'm big on reading the Observer.
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Old 10-13-2015, 11:56 AM   #29
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Yeah, I'm big on reading the Observer.
Parroting it at least
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Old 10-12-2015, 10:13 PM   #30
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Also it's perfectly fine that you enjoy the product, it's the fact that you feel the need to attack our stance and opinion and completely generalize that makes you a cast off.

For instance, I'd say Anybody Thrilla as a whole LOVES the product, sure he throws in random jibes at it, but he generally is quite positive. Yet, we don't have these absolutely ridiculous arguments with him. You come off as some kind of robot. You don't really pay attention to what we're actually saying, you just say we read Dave Meltzer. I assure you, 90 per cent of the posters here don't read f4w, nor do they like Dave Meltzer. He's actually a bit irritating.
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Old 10-13-2015, 12:04 PM   #31
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Also it's perfectly fine that you enjoy the product, it's the fact that you feel the need to attack our stance and opinion and completely generalize that makes you a cast off.

For instance, I'd say Anybody Thrilla as a whole LOVES the product, sure he throws in random jibes at it, but he generally is quite positive. Yet, we don't have these absolutely ridiculous arguments with him. You come off as some kind of robot. You don't really pay attention to what we're actually saying, you just say we read Dave Meltzer. I assure you, 90 per cent of the posters here don't read f4w, nor do they like Dave Meltzer. He's actually a bit irritating.
You got it twisted.

I defend, I don't attack.

I just point out the absurdity of claiming to dislike something yet spend valuable resources on it week after week.

If you go back since I made my triumphant return, I got blasted for saying I feel the product is good. And that most of the problems today lie not with the writing and booking but instead with the talent who are inferior to that of yesteryear.

Also was also vehimantly attacked for my stance of the Daniel Bryan Yes Movement that WWE cultivated.

It doesn't bother me because i enjoy a good debate. But don't pretend like I'm the aggressor.
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Old 10-13-2015, 01:14 PM   #32
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You got it twisted.

I defend, I don't attack.

I just point out the absurdity of claiming to dislike something yet spend valuable resources on it week after week.
I have stopped watching.
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If you go back since I made my triumphant return, I got blasted for saying I feel the product is good. And that most of the problems today lie not with the writing and booking but instead with the talent who are inferior to that of yesteryear.
I agree, not many people are good on the Mic at all. I think this comes from many wrestlers just letting the writers write for them.
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Old 10-13-2015, 01:38 PM   #33
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I have stopped watching.
I agree, not many people are good on the Mic at all. I think this come from many wrestlers just letting the writers write for them.
Same here. I mentioned this in another thread but I rarely watch anymore, like once every 2-3 months and even then I don't watch the whole episode of RAW. I haven't seen anything that has gotten me remotely interested to tune in the following week or even the next PPV/event and I've been a fan for 25+ years, half of that as an adult.
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Old 10-13-2015, 02:47 PM   #34
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I have stopped watching.
I agree, not many people are good on the Mic at all. I think this come from many wrestlers just letting the writers write for them.
I agree. Which is why I blame the talent today. A lot fewer guys today seem willing to bring their own ideas to the table.
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Old 10-12-2015, 10:41 PM   #35
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Noid as well is actually pretty positive. I rarely see him be overly critical... but he also doesn't make ludicrous generalizations against those who disagree with him, and doesn't have so weird ego centric agenda against the IWC.
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Old 10-12-2015, 11:24 PM   #36
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I don't listen to any wrestling podcast at the moment and have given up because I don't see these stories going anywhere nothing is really attractive to me about the product. I do enjoy watching lesnar wrestle but no interested in seeing him fight Big Show for the 30th time or Taker again. He should be destroying Taker, nothing short of that.

I didn't watch tonight did Cesaro continue his program with Big Show?
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Old 10-13-2015, 11:22 AM   #37
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I don't listen to any wrestling podcast at the moment and have given up because I don't see these stories going anywhere nothing is really attractive to me about the product. I do enjoy watching lesnar wrestle but no interested in seeing him fight Big Show for the 30th time or Taker again. He should be destroying Taker, nothing short of that.

I didn't watch tonight did Cesaro continue his program with Big Show?


Don't know, didn't make it far into RAW before I looked at myself and got up from the couch to go do something meaningful with my life. Starting to dread how much WrestleMania is going to suck if they don't turn the ship around
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Old 10-12-2015, 11:50 PM   #38
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No him and Neville jobbed to Barrett and Sheamus. Cesaro did most the work and Neville took the pin.
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