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Old 10-07-2015, 11:18 AM   #1
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If the plan was such a brilliant one, why didn't it draw bigger business?
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Old 10-09-2015, 07:24 PM   #2
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If the plan was such a brilliant one, why didn't it draw bigger business?


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I would argue that the plan was brilliant, and that the time period between Summerslam 2013 and Wrestlemania 30 was probably the hottest that the WWE had been in years. Not sure if the ratings reflected this at all (haven't checked), but the Daniel Bryan 'Yes!' movement was probably the most over thing that the WWE had in about a decade or so. Daniel Bryan became even more popular after fans (both marks and IWC) perceived him being held back.


Who knows where the business would be today if Bryan's career hadn't been derailed after Mania that year.
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Old 10-09-2015, 10:23 PM   #3
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I would argue that the plan was brilliant, and that the time period between Summerslam 2013 and Wrestlemania 30 was probably the hottest that the WWE had been in years. Not sure if the ratings reflected this at all (haven't checked), but the Daniel Bryan 'Yes!' movement was probably the most over thing that the WWE had in about a decade or so. Daniel Bryan became even more popular after fans (both marks and IWC) perceived him being held back.


Who knows where the business would be today if Bryan's career hadn't been derailed after Mania that year.
Exactly. Bryan was over huge at Mania. Its not like WWE planned for Bryan to get hurt and make the previous 8 months of build a waste of time.
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Old 10-10-2015, 02:26 AM   #4
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I think the issue isn't that Vince & Co. didn't see Bryan as a main event level talent at all, instead they just didn't see Bryan as a potential Wrestlemania main event headliner.

In other words, Vince & Co. realized they needed someone to fill the Cena void while he was out. They decided to have Bryan main event and beat Cena at Summerslam. Then they said, we'll screw Bryan out of the title for Bryan to have a brief main event program with Orton, "Authority", etc. until Cena gets back and then we'll move Bryan into another non-main event program or two (Wyatt and then Sheamus) in time for Mania.

Again, not that they didn't see Bryan as main event material at all, they just didn't view him as Wrestlemania main event, top of the card, headliner material.
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Old 10-11-2015, 08:36 PM   #5
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I think the issue isn't that Vince & Co. didn't see Bryan as a main event level talent at all, instead they just didn't see Bryan as a potential Wrestlemania main event headliner.

In other words, Vince & Co. realized they needed someone to fill the Cena void while he was out. They decided to have Bryan main event and beat Cena at Summerslam. Then they said, we'll screw Bryan out of the title for Bryan to have a brief main event program with Orton, "Authority", etc. until Cena gets back and then we'll move Bryan into another non-main event program or two (Wyatt and then Sheamus) in time for Mania.

Again, not that they didn't see Bryan as main event material at all, they just didn't view him as Wrestlemania main event, top of the card, headliner material.
This.

If you go and watch the Daniel Bryan "Monster" video, they don't even include the Cena vs. Bryan match in there. It cuts from Bryan "challenging" for the WWE Title (with no previous mention of his World Heavyweight Title win or subsequent WWE Title wins either), to getting screwed to his issues with The Authority. It's not one big glorious story.
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This.

If you go and watch the Daniel Bryan "Monster" video, they don't even include the Cena vs. Bryan match in there. It cuts from Bryan "challenging" for the WWE Title (with no previous mention of his World Heavyweight Title win or subsequent WWE Title wins either), to getting screwed to his issues with The Authority. It's not one big glorious story.
That was just to make the Mania win seem like it was the first time he won the title. Regardless, you're still pointing to him getting screwed by The Authority constantly, which is clearly part of a large storyline.
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