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Old 10-07-2015, 10:14 PM   #1
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I think I liked their last match better, and Sasha / Becky Lunch before that more, but I think a lot of that comes down to the inherent downsides and limitations of an Iron Man match.

It stole a lot of drama out of it, because you know there's not much of a chance Sasha's going to win and the clock count down with a tie situation really shows "Hey, she's not going to hold out"

I think if they would have gone to overtime and then done that spot, it would have been better.

Great closing segment though.
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Old 10-07-2015, 10:27 PM   #2
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I think I liked their last match better, and Sasha / Becky Lunch before that more, but I think a lot of that comes down to the inherent downsides and limitations of an Iron Man match.

It stole a lot of drama out of it, because you know there's not much of a chance Sasha's going to win and the clock count down with a tie situation really shows "Hey, she's not going to hold out"

I think if they would have gone to overtime and then done that spot, it would have been better.

Great closing segment though.
Probably could have cut down on the score a bit but was going to be hard to top the last match story and emotional wise regardless what was picked for this one.

Closest this match came was Sasha taunting Izzy and the ending of Bayley getting desperate to not have the match stopped in a tie with those kicks to Sasha's head.
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Old 10-07-2015, 10:36 PM   #3
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Probably could have cut down on the score a bit but was going to be hard to top the last match story and emotional wise regardless what was picked for this one.

Closest this match came was Sasha taunting Izzy and the ending of Bayley getting desperate to not have the match stopped in a tie with those kicks to Sasha's head.
Yeah, I mean, it's an important match to have for a variety of reasons. The Ironman stip also definitely makes sense from a storyline perspective and to underscore how talented the women are.

So, it's great from every perspective for the lead up, but the ironman stipulation has SO many downsides. It's a great stip for building up a match and a storyline, but the match itself just suffers from so many inherent drawbacks, especially now that the match has happened often enough for most of the "tricks" to be pretty commonly known. You lose all of drama of "IS THIS THE END?" because you have a timer, and the only way to get around that is by going to overtime, and that in turn makes the first 30, 60, whatever minutes feel irrelevant. This is compounded by having one of the competitors clearly being "promoted" off the show. It's just one of those stipulations that's an uphill slog.

I love the stipulation for what it means in a historical/event context and how it worked for the story, but I hate the stipulation for the match itself.

That said, they did the best they could do with the stip, and I'm happy they got the chance and that I got to see it.
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Old 10-08-2015, 12:02 AM   #4
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I think I liked their last match better, and Sasha / Becky Lunch before that more, but I think a lot of that comes down to the inherent downsides and limitations of an Iron Man match.

It stole a lot of drama out of it, because you know there's not much of a chance Sasha's going to win and the clock count down with a tie situation really shows "Hey, she's not going to hold out"

I think if they would have gone to overtime and then done that spot, it would have been better.

Great closing segment though.
I was actually kinda hoping for the match to end in a draw. Like, would that have been dissatisfying, or would it have shown how evenly matched they are?
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Old 10-08-2015, 12:06 AM   #5
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I was actually kinda hoping for the match to end in a draw. Like, would that have been dissatisfying, or would it have shown how evenly matched they are?
I think that would have been a gutsy, interesting choice in different circumstances. You can't do that in a "historic" main event like this, I don't think, and it would only really work as a build up to another match, but where do they go from there for NXT and women?

It's a different enough ending that they haven't done a ton in high profile matches, just Angle/HBK and some random tag team title match on WWECW, but it would have been difficult to do well in this context. I have faith that they could have done it well, but it would have been tough and wouldn't be something you could end the feud on.
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Old 10-08-2015, 01:36 AM   #6
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I think that would have been a gutsy, interesting choice in different circumstances. You can't do that in a "historic" main event like this, I don't think, and it would only really work as a build up to another match, but where do they go from there for NXT and women?

It's a different enough ending that they haven't done a ton in high profile matches, just Angle/HBK and some random tag team title match on WWECW, but it would have been difficult to do well in this context. I have faith that they could have done it well, but it would have been tough and wouldn't be something you could end the feud on.
Yeah, I suppose there was too much riding on this match to have a finish like that. I guess I just wanted to see Bayley retain, but Sasha to not lose.
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