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Old 10-20-2015, 02:44 PM   #1
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Well all the Manias between 15 and 17 didn't rely on outside help. 17 was literally the peak of the Attitude Era. Unfortunately they don't have the mainstream appeal they did then. Beyond that, even though 17 was critically acclaimed, it isn't the most purchased show in history.

I like the way Mania is set up right now. It's the only stadium show of the year, so it should have special features. If you don't include part timers then Mania becomes Summerslam. That doesn't seem like a smart strategy. Even more important with The Network where Mania anchors your subscription base. You need as many bells and whistles to keep people entertained.

To me as long as the guys like Hunter, Rock, Taker, etc can have good matches, they help being part of the show. Taker putting over Brock to this day helps Brocks gimmick. Rock working with Cena was huge business. Triple H putting over Bryan clean created a special moment. Triple H vs Sting with the NWO and DX involvement created a special moment. Mania needs those special moments to elevate it from the other shows on the calendar.

No offense to CM Punk, but he's a delusional character. He's only concerned about himself, doesn't see the bigger picture.
I don't mind having one or two part timers, but how does it help the product throughout the rest of the year? The context in which I used CM Punk's quotes weren't related to Punk himself, but to the product. Why would a casual fan who tunes in for Wrestlemania give a shit about a guy like Dolph Ziggler if he only appears in clusterfuck throwaway matches on the biggest stage of the year? Guys like Triple H, Undertaker, Rock etc have had countless Wrestlemania moments. They need to start giving the spotlight to today's superstars, so that they can use that Wrestlemania exposure to elevate themselves.

Triple H, Undertaker, The Rock, John Cena, Sting, Brock Lesnar etc will not be able to carry Wrestlemania events for the rest of their lives. What happens when they hang up the boots for good? Who'll carry the show then? Cody Rhodes?
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Old 10-20-2015, 02:52 PM   #2
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I don't mind having one or two part timers, but how does it help the product throughout the rest of the year? The context in which I used CM Punk's quotes weren't related to Punk himself, but to the product. Why would a casual fan who tunes in for Wrestlemania give a shit about a guy like Dolph Ziggler if he only appears in clusterfuck throwaway matches on the biggest stage of the year? Guys like Triple H, Undertaker, Rock etc have had countless Wrestlemania moments. They need to start giving the spotlight to today's superstars, so that they can use that Wrestlemania exposure to elevate themselves.

Triple H, Undertaker, The Rock, John Cena, Sting, Brock Lesnar etc will not be able to carry Wrestlemania events for the rest of their lives. What happens when they hang up the boots for good? Who'll carry the show then? Cody Rhodes?
Similar reason to why the Super Bowl has an elaborate half time show and when you watch a week 7 game its a bunch of geeks yacking. More people tune into the Super Bowl because you are using a bigger net and you hope that translates to more long term fans.

Taker is a loss that is likely around the corner although I believe his value has drastically decreased after the streak.

Cena is still a full timer. He can probably go as a full timer for another 10 years if he wants to. At the very least he can do years of work as a part time. Rock and Hunter are in great shape, they could be doing one off matches for ten years plus.

Randy Orton can transition to that role, Batista can do it, Punk when he comes back. And you just keep cycling guys through.

Besides, you're advocating for no part timers, so if you think Mania will fall off a cliff without them, why suggest that?
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