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There is absolutely no chance of Lesnar having an open challenge at Mania, that would be a complete waste of their most marketable asset.
I would have Lesnar going in as a dominant champ again if someone else was ready to make the step up. It was obvious they were trying it with Reigns until they were forced to change course. Bryan would be ideal but it has to be a surefire thing this time around which makes it difficult. I would say a face Rollins but I think that him and HHH is a lock for Mania given the build. I would go for something like this... WWE World Heavyweight Championship The Rock vs Brock Lesnar (c) Seth Rollins vs HHH John Cena vs Roman Reigns Intercontinental Title Cesaro vs Kevin Owens (c) US Title Rusev (c) vs Daniel Bryan The Undertaker vs Dolph Ziggler Dean Ambrose vs Chris Jericho Randy Orton vs Bray Wyatt Divas Title Charlotte (c) vs Sasha Banks TLC match New Day vs The Dudleyz vs Samoa Joe/Usos Pre-Show Andre the Giant Battle Royal Sheamus winning Tag Titles The Miz/Tyler Breeze vs New Age Outlaws Obviously some of this is just fantasy and some of it wouldn't work but it is what I would like to see. A fun tag match on the pre-show that gets fans into the event. Maybe some comedy thrown in. Would like to see Miz and Breeze together, think it is a natural fit and there could be a stable of sorts with lackeys getting involved. They should retain here. Sheamus winning the battle royal keeps the case in view and keeps him strong for what may happen after Mania. Instead of having tag team turmoil, I would like to see something different, so Dudleyz bringing in Spike and Samoa Joe being recruited by the returning Usos can give a match to all 3 members of New Day. Could be very memorable and help them sell numerous DVDs with recaps of past TLC stuff with Dudleyz involved . Sascha Banks is a star. Should build up Charlotte as an unstoppable wrestler with her father's backing before then and have Banks topple her at Mania. Wyatt and Orton has seeds planted seemingly and Wyatt needs a big Mania win over an established star. Ziggler has a bit of HBK about him and a match with the Undertaker gives him some spotlight and a different challenge to Taker. I would have Ziggler take him to the absolute limit and look like a warrior, but Taker will get the win in his own state. If Bryan is fit, I would build Rusev up (doesn't looke likely now), with Lana back at his side and have him go after the US title. Have him hold the title captive, in need of a hero to salvage it and Bryan returns to challenge him at Mania (perhaps against medical advice). Could be a fantastic story and great Mania moment. Ambrose and Jericho has seeds planted from recently and makes sense. Cesaro and Owens also has seeds planted and makes sense, and gives both a chance to shine, maybe after so much failure, this could be Cesaros chance to win. Cena/Reigns could have a great narrative of Cena telling him what is needed to be the best and Reigns jealously lashing out and attacking Cena. A Reigns turn and win against Cena at Mania could be a big moment for him. HHH/Rollins is the longest built story they have, and a face Rollins could use a win against the Game as a springboard to great heights. He is fantastic and don't think he gets the credit he deserves. Lesnar/Rock is the biggest money match they could have IMO and give them something to hang the PPV on so to speak. Make it for the title and while others might see it as a waste, I think it would increase media interest and intrigue going into the event. |
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TNA is a glorified indy promotion.
Trust me Brock vs Joe MASSIVELY devalues Brock. I'm not someone who thinks Joe has it to be a WWE superstar, but say he does get over on the main roster. A match at 32 is pissing money away. A match like that would mean more if Joe was established for a year. And with Brock's part time status, it would be easy to keep them apart until 33. |
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The idea of Taker cutting a promo on Ziggler makes me laugh
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For Ziggler, its now of never, needs to start to make an impact in some way. I have to admit, my initial card didn't even have him on it, which maybe shows where he is right now.
Initial card was booking 101, Taker against Strowman in his back yard. Atrocious match in all likelihood, but Taker against a built up monster in his home state. Alternatively, you could do Rusev against Taker and have Ziggler and Bryan wrestler over US title... |
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Actually agree with CyNick. I'd give Joe a year long build then push him to Lesnar. At least try to create the fan desire to see them clash.
If anybody, I'd rather Joe debutagainst Owens or Cena. |
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I think CyNick missed the part where I addressed the problems with Brock/Joe in my original post. And I completely disagree with the Batista point -- I think he's actually gone on record saying that he wants to work with Triple H again.
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A less fantastic, more realistic card:
WWE World Heavyweight Championship The Rock (c) vs. Brock Lesnar The Undertaker vs. John Cena Triple H vs. Seth Rollins Dean Ambrose vs. Roman Reigns Randy Orton vs. Bray Wyatt Intercontinental Championship/United States Championship Unification Match Kevin Owens (c) vs. Daniel Bryan (c) Divas Championship Charlotte (c) vs. Sasha Banks Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royal Everyone else 10-Diva Tag Team Match The Bella Twins, Alicia Fox, Paige & Naomi vs. Trish Stratus, Lita, Becky Lynch, Natalya & Bayley Fatal 4-Way Tag Team Match for the WWE Tag Team Championship The New Day (c) vs. The Usos vs. The Wyatt Family vs. The Dudley Boyz |
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(I don't wanna see this match anyway, but that's just coz I don't care about Undertaker matches any more). |
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Actually swap the belt around in the Rock/Brock match. Brock wins the title at Survivor Series or something, leaving Rock to win the Royal Rumble in Orlando.
Reigns looks good and like he's on his way to winning, and he tosses his good pal Dean Ambrose out, which Ambrose retorts to by tossing Reigns out post-elimination. That sets up that match. It could be for the US Title, but that's only if Bryan doesn't win the title at Hell in a Cell or something. I think the Rumble could come down to Rock and Cena quite comfortably. Rock wins it, Cena looks dejected and makes the big challenge to Undertaker soon afterwards. Rollins gets another title shot at the Rumble, having defeated Roman Reigns at TLC for it. Triple H screws Rollins or something, or maybe the turn happens on RAW, and that sets up Rollins vs. Triple H. Wyatt vs. Orton already had existing heat, and seems like the sort of match the WWE would throw on a WrestleMania card. I think Wyatt would finally get a WrestleMania win there. I'd swap the belts in the Tag Title match too. The New Day probably do lose them to The Dudleys at some point. They might slip them through until WrestleMania as champs. |
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Continues? When hashe Cena ever looked weak for more than a match? Other than jobbing out to Lesnar at Summer Slam last year, to which he immediately bounced back from and had a competitive match to point where it looked as if he'd pull it out in the end, I don't recall him ever looking weak. It's a fairly silly statement.
Also, if losing to the top star of the company is a good thing, how is said top star losing to the franchise star of the company bad? That makes no sense. |
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As for who wins in Cena vs. Undertaker? It doesn't really matter which way you go. Cena would be gracious enough to get pinned by Taker, and I'm sure Taker doesn't mind putting Cena over at this point. Biggest business would be the Cena heel turn, but I don't see them doing that.
I could see them taking a few guys out of the Battle Royal and doing a WrestleMania Money in the Bank too, so that there's some sort of Ladder Match on the card. Sheamus vs. Barrett vs. Neville vs. Kofi Kingston vs. Rusev vs. Cesaro vs. Ziggler vs. Breeze would be my bet if they went forward with that. Maybe Kane. |
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At this point, I've just accepted that a Cena heel turn will never happen and frankly it's probably better at this point. Doing it now would just feel forced. |
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Unless it is absolutely incredible. I still want to see Cena as the leader of the WWE-style Bullet Club.
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John Cena
Samoa Joe Nikki Bella Mojo Rawley Zack Ryder Something like that for a line-up. |
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In his podcast with Jericho he struck me as a very loyal guy who loves the business. WWE are supposedly going to try to bring back every able-bodied legend they can to wrestle at this thing. I think Dave would be glad to participate as long as he's not booked into another film before then. Probably would be his final match. |
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Speaking of Jericho...he's one of the on-again/off-again legends I have a tough time figuring out a "spot" for. To his credit he turned down offers to be on WM 30 and WM 31 because they just wanted to randomly stick him into clusterfuck matches.
If Bryan somehow comes back and wins back the IC Title, I could definitely see Jericho accepting a program with Bryan. He's said numerous times that being the guy with the most IC Title reigns ever is what he considers to be his proudest accomplishment in the business. It would be a sensible program and, frankly, it would be a great match to end Jericho's career with because he'll be 45 years old and I have to imagine eventually he's just going to be ready to stop wrestling for good. So many guys I'd rather see Bryan work against though...Cesaro, Owens, etc. Nothing against Jericho (who is my all-time fav) but I'm just not sure he's a fit anywhere. |
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WWE Bulletclub would be Sheamus, Rusev, Barrett type stable considering Bullet club is a group of foreigners. |
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I'd actually like to see suit and tie Jericho going against Ambrose. It's something pretty fresh and gives Ambrose a good feud to get his momentum going again.
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You have Joe debut beat a star and already lose within 4 months. The way you laid out Brock and Joe it didn't make either guy seem special. As for Dave, i'm not disputing he will come back. I just don't see it in a random 6 man tag. If it was one on one with someone, sure. |
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A random 6-man... it's the Triple H match at WrestleMania, bro. |
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I really want to see that program, but I don't really feel it for a WrestleMania. Unless it was for the IC Title in the opener or something like that.
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The other problem is Taker. Depending how they book the fight with Lesnar tonight, I think you will come away thinking Taker is pretty much done. In which case is tough to have Cena say I need to prove myself against Taker because A) Taker has just recently been beaten and B) he's already lost at Mania. Not saying you couldn't make it work, I just don't think it's what you want or what makes sense for Taker in 2016. |
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John Cena vs Brock Lesnar (Last Man Standing with Stone Cold as Guest Referee )
The Undertaker vs Sting Triple H vs. Seth Rollins (WWE Championship) Daniel Bryan vs Kurt Angle (2 out of 3 falls) Kevin Owens vs Rob Van Dam (IC title) New Day vs The Dudley Boyz vs The Hardy Boyz (Tag belts TLC match) Samoa Joe vs Cesaro (US title) Divas Championship (Kiss My Ass) Battle Royale Rusev vs Randy Orton The Wyatt Family vs Dean Ambrose, Chris Jericho and Roman Reigns Dolph Ziggler vs Wade Barret
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You could position every match like that. The potential Wyatt/Taker thing we could be getting? A feud between guys who aren't as good as Lesnar or Reigns.
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Wyatt v Evo wasn't positioned like that. Plus you would need to turn Hunter face or Orton heel and then have Bats reconcile fir walking out. I'm sure you could get there, but I didn't like it. |
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You don't have to like it, CyNick, and I quite frankly couldn't give a shit that you don't, bro. How the fuck do you know how Evolution vs. Wyatts was positioned in my mind? I gave a little bit of a lay-out to give things a general context, but you don't get the full scope of the build or story. Get out of it, bro.
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Hahahahahaha!
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Do it, Noid. Do it.
Just know that CyNick will more than likely not enjoy it (who's got the negative glasses on now?). |
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If I decide to do it, it'll be for you, XL.
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Trying to kill time here, so I'll just give this a go. This is likely going to wind up being completely unrealistic but I don't really care, I'm going into EWR mode to book a card that will appeal to me and only me:
World Heavyweight Title - Triple Threat Match Dean Ambrose vs. Seth Rollins vs. Roman Reigns (C) I have Reigns entering as the champ in this one as a heel as a result of a double turn at Survivor Series. Rollins is forced to run the gauntlet, defeat Triple H at the Royal Rumble merely to earn a spot into the Rumble match, which he then wins in dramatic fashion. Ambrose meanwhile, upset at his "brother"'s change of heart, loses a match to Reigns at the Rumble but somehow wrangles Sheamus' MITB briefcase away from him at Fastlane. Voila, Shield triple threat booked. John Cena vs. The Undertaker We all know Taker is going to wrestle at a WM in Texas. There is zero doubt in my mind about it. But who could he possibly have left to wrestle at this point that isn't a stale retread? The answer is Cena. Yes this match would have had way more appeal if the streak were still going on, but it would still be ridiculously fun. I don't know if it would be promoted as Taker's official "retirement match" or what, but I'd still love to see it. Brock Lesnar w/ Paul Heyman vs. Kevin Owens Okay, I don't have a particularly good story in mind to set this up. All I know is the very thought of this match makes me ridiculously wet. Hey, it's my fantasy booking...it was either this or Lesnar vs. Cesaro, people! You will notice though that I have Owens dropping the IC Title. I'm all for increasing the belt's prestige, but Lesnar taking the IC belt offscreen is a bit too far fetched. But fear not, because... Intercontinental Title Dolph Ziggler vs. Daniel Bryan (C) I loved the idea of Bryan being a fighting IC champion when he last got injured. And with the main event currently occupied with the Shield triple threat, I would be okay with Bryan beefing up the midcard title scene for the time being. I know Ziggler's held the IC title belt a million times, but in this scenario he's gone heel (something badly needed IMO, his character is a total douche as is), but this would be another excellent match and the crowd will eat up anything Bryan does. Bray Wyatt vs. Randy Orton This is a program I've wanted to see for quite a while, and even though they've partially done it with having Orton interact with the Wyatts, a full blown program was never in the offing. This could be something that can be revisted once Survivor Series passes and Orton is back from his shoulder injury. Realistically they're not going to banish Orton to Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royal status, so this would be fun. United States Title Cesaro vs. Alberto Del Rio (C) w/ Zeb Colter Del Rio just cut a promo yesterday in which he laughed at Neville for being an immigrant as he and Zeb look to establish their country of "Mexamerica". Does that mean he hates all Europeans? What about people who are very European? Cesaro and Colter would have plenty of history to draw upon here in promos building to this. You can even have Swagger somehow play a part in this equation assuming somebody in the WWE office remembers that he exists. Tag Team Titles - Fatal 4 Way Match The New Day (C) vs. The Usos vs. The Lucha Dragons vs. Enzo Amore and Colin Cassady WWE loves its fatal 4 way tag team matches at WrestleMania, because it makes for a hot opener and allows for them to squeeze extra guys onto the show without automatically defaulting them to battle royal duty. The New Day should still be champions by WM32, because they are glorious. The Usos are definitely going to be back in contention once Jey is healthy. The Dragons are the most exciting team they have. And Enzo/Cass is probably a stretch, but fuck it - I want to see 100,000 people doing their intro dammit. (Disclaimer: The Dudley Boyz are way more likely for this match assuming they are still in the company by then). Divas Title - Fatal 4 Way Match Charlotte (C) vs. Becky Lynch vs. Sasha Banks vs. Bayley YES I DON'T CARE IF IT'S ANOTHER FATAL 4 WAY MATCH AND LEAVES OFF THE BELLAS THIS WOULD BE WAY BETTER THAN ANYTHING ELSE THEY COULD POSSIBLY DO IN THIS DIVISION AND IT'S MY WRESTLEMANIA CARD GOD DAMMIT. Phew...okay, got that out of my system. Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royal Everybody else goes in here, of course. Ideally the winner would get something beyond just the trophy. Maybe an automatic WWE World Heavyweight Title match the next night on Raw? In front of that always shit-hot post-WM crowd that could be a lot of fun. |
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Yeah, but what successful territory has Noid booked?
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With Christian officially being on wwe.com's alumni section, now would be the time to make a triumphant comeback, to challenge the one, in 21, for one... more... match.
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Fell like if Shelton Benjamin was to return he would fit right in with the New Day. With the Wyatt family having 4 now Bray going after New Day before Mania because of their constant positivity would work. Have Shelton show up before Mania and and join New Day for a 8 man tag at Mania.
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WWE WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP TRIPLE THREAT MATCH
Seth Rollins (c) -VS- Dean Ambrose -VS- Roman Reigns The Shield members clash in the WWE World Heavyweight Title match at WrestleMania 32. While this match may not close the show, the fact that it's these three men in the WWE Title match on the biggest show of the year will speak volumes for the future of the WWE, as we see more and more up and coming guys make their way up the card. Winner: Seth Rollins retains and continues his long reign THE BEAST VERSUS THE DRAGON Brock Lesnar w/ Paul Heyman -VS- Daniel Bryan Daniel Bryan is finally cleared to return to the ring. He manages to eliminate Brock Lesnar from the Royal Rumble, starting off the ultimate David versus Goliath feud leading up to WrestleMania. It's a very intense feud with Lesnar and Heyman trying to get Bryan to sign a forfeiture agreement for his own safety. Winner: Lesnar wins after a hard fought battle - handshake at the end to put over Bryan THE GAME VERSUS THE BRAHMA BULL - 15 YEARS LATER Triple H w/ Stephanie McMahon-Helmsley -VS- The Rock w/ Ronda Rousey The build-up from last year's Mania culminates at the biggest show of the year. McMahon and UFC agree to let Rousey work the event. It's a hard fought match, a bit slower and more in the Attitude Era main event style. Rousey gets involved and puts Stephanie in a shoulder breaker submission. Winner: The Rock wins with the Rock Bottom ICON VERSUS LEGEND SPECIAL GUEST REFEREE: Sting John Cena -VS- The Undertaker After losing the Royal Rumble match to Dean Ambrose, John Cena sets his sights on the one thing he's never done - defeated Undertaker at WrestleMania. Cena manages to goad Undertaker out of retirement and gets him to accept the challenge. Sting interjects himself, saying he can't wrestle anymore, but it's always been a dream of his to stand face to face with Undertaker at WrestleMania, and he will do that by acting as the special guest referee. Winner: John Cena wins with the STF - Undertaker retires the next night on RAW INTERCONTINENTAL CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH Kevin Owens (c) -VS- Finn Balor Two guys who set NXT on fire get their first WrestleMania match against one another. This match should be given at least 20 minutes to allow these two amazing competitors to put on a show. This is a showcase of the future of the WWE. Winner: Finn Balor ends Kevin's long-standing IC Title run UNITED STATES CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH Alberto Del Rio (c) -VS- Dolph Ziggler Ziggler finally gets his moment at WrestleMania when he defeats Del Rio to obtain the hopefully more-valued US Title. Winner: Dolph Ziggler MONEY IN THE BANK LADDER MATCH Ryback -VS- The Miz -VS- Randy Orton -VS- Cesaro -VS- Samoa Joe -VS- Rusev -VS- Sami Zayn Aside from Orton, this is a battle of up and comers in the WWE. This would be a longer ladder match than past MITB matches, going close to 30 minutes, which less high-spots and more actual wrestling. Cesaro finally gets a step up the ladder with a victory here. WWE WORLD TAG TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH The New Day (c) -VS- The Hardys -VS- The Dudleys -VS- The Vaudevillians The new era of tag team wrestling meets the old era of tag team wrestling. While the Hardys and Dudleys hit all of their old high spots, in the end, this match is about putting over the New Day and the Vaudevillians. The Vaudevillians manage to sneak a victory and take home the tag titles. Winners: The Vaudevillians WWE DIVAS CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH Charlotte (c) -VS- Bayley What looks like it will be a face versus face encounter turns bad when Charlotte turns heel against her NXT pal. Charlotte takes some of her dad's old swagger, coming to the ring dressed in expensive women's business suits, talking about screwing hot men in every city, and of course, acting like God's gift to the wrestling world. Bayley gets the big babyface win. Winner: Bayley |
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