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Old 11-14-2015, 12:56 PM   #241
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Again, you change the subject and standards. We're not talking about success, we're talking about quality.

If I produce more and more types of products year after year, if 50% of the primary product that I produce are of poor quality, even if I'm having financial success year after year, that doesn't make my primary product good quality.
You would think someone who is intelligent enough to become an attorney would understand that quality is in the eye of the individual. It's not something you can really quantify. Again, i feel silly pointing that out because am attorney such as yourself who has been in so many cases would understand that difference.

WWE generates most of their revenue on things that people buy over and over (tickets, merch, network subs). If the perceived quality of the product was so low those metrics would be in massive decline. Yet if you look at WWEs revenue, the paying fan is telling them the product is good. If it wasn't WWE would have empty buildings. Instead they will sell close to 100k tickets for one show! Those people are not buying tickets based on what the product was like 15 years ago, that would be silly. Clearly they like the ptoduct today.
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Old 11-14-2015, 12:58 PM   #242
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Regardless of your argument, the product is still shite, ratings are still low, and you're still a cunt.
3rd most watched thing on cable on Monday. Low is relative.
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I can always back up my claims with facts. Sometimes i get tired repeating the stuff you lot choose to ignore.
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Look everything on TV is exaggerated. Plenty of TV shows or movies will have something happen between characters and then they work it out.
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I've honestly never seen another situation in any form of scripted entertainment where two people in the middle of a heated feud seemingly became best friends again off-camera between episodes with no explanation...

Because that would be some all-time horrible writing and outside of WWE currently, even the trashiest, shittiest TV shows and movies have higher writing standards than that.
You gonna actually state some of those super cool CyNick facts eventually or no? I know "avoid addressing it and it will go away" has worked for you a lot but this thread might not die out soon and you might have to actually formulate some kind of a new ridiculous logic to make WWE seem like it's not booked by the mentally handicapped.
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Old 11-14-2015, 12:59 PM   #244
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So only people who love the product can come on the forums and discuss the product? What about people who love the product but don't actually watch it? Can they come on the forums and discuss? What about people who watch but aren't sure if they like the product currently? Man, that sounds like an awesome forum to visit.

Where exactly do you draw the line?

What about people who think the product is poor but don't watch? For the record, that's the camp I'm in currently. I'll probably start watching again around Rumble time though and continue up through Mania. Football season will be over and I'll be looking for something to watch until the NHL playoffs. There's generally something somewhat entertaining going on during WM and maybe they'll be able to keep my interest this year post WM through the rest of the year.

Point being, if folks who aren't currently enjoying the product shouldn't watch and/or then come to discuss their opinions on the forums, what's the point of the forums?

In fact, you know what, you're right. Let's shut this down. Guys, it's official. We're going to be shutting down the forums. CyNick says if we don't enjoy the product, we shouldn't be watching and/or posting here, so let's shut it down.
People can bang their head against the wall for 6 hours a day if they enjoy it. I will just look at that person and think hmmm you would think that would be annoying and they would just stop. But hey if being disappointed time in and time out is what turns your crank, cool, no skin off my back.
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You gonna actually state some of those super cool CyNick facts eventually or no? I know "ignore it and it will go away" has worked for you a lot but this thread might not die out soon and you might have to actually formulate some kind of a new ridiculous logic to make WWE seem like it's not booked by the mentally handicapped.
Read the majority of my posts Corny
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Seriously? You're sticking with the "if I assert that I responded with a fact, then it means I did even though all this shit is right there on the last page to read" strategy? My God...

You forgot to add a "swing and a miss" or something though. That's definitely a great way to at least make yourself feel like you're right without actually having to try to make a cogent point despite the fact that everyone else can just read the thread and see the blatant dodging going on.
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Old 11-14-2015, 04:46 PM   #248
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We'll set up a point counterpoint one day. Maybe we can do it on a podcast, and you can have all the Negative Nelly's from the IWC tweet in say you were right and CyNick is a dope. That will make you feel good, right?
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We'll set up a point counterpoint one day. Maybe we can do it on a podcast, and you can have all the Negative Nelly's from the IWC tweet in say you were right and CyNick is a dope. That will make you feel good, right?
Lol well let's get serious here. That's your wet dream
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How has this thread degenerated into CyNick vs. The World/Logic in a handicap match? Are the guys on the podcast gonna read all this out?
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The Rock and Triple H both saw something in Curtis Axel. It hasn't come to forefront yet, but I really hope it does. He's a good carpenter that might not ever get to the main event level, but he's got a place. Love the guy's selling, intensity and trash-talking.

He's a guy that I'd like to see an E60/Breaking Ground type special on. I want reasons to like Axel and feel like I know him, because as he stands, he's just a guy in wrestling trunks playing Superstar right now. Axel might be missing charisma, but I feel that there is some sort of presentation road-block the WWE are facing with him.

At the very worst, he could make a great in-ring component to a heel faction -- whether it's him being "found" by Bray Wyatt, or joining up with The Authority's next "Corporate Champion." There's no reason Axel can't do what Jamie Noble and Joey Mercury did earlier this year.
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I have a feeling that the podcast has already been recorded, but WrestleMania IX would have pissed me off to no end as a young wrestling fan, if I was watching at the time. It might have even destroyed my fandom.
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The Rock and Triple H both saw something in Curtis Axel. It hasn't come to forefront yet, but I really hope it does. He's a good carpenter that might not ever get to the main event level, but he's got a place. Love the guy's selling, intensity and trash-talking.

He's a guy that I'd like to see an E60/Breaking Ground type special on. I want reasons to like Axel and feel like I know him, because as he stands, he's just a guy in wrestling trunks playing Superstar right now. Axel might be missing charisma, but I feel that there is some sort of presentation road-block the WWE are facing with him.

At the very worst, he could make a great in-ring component to a heel faction -- whether it's him being "found" by Bray Wyatt, or joining up with The Authority's next "Corporate Champion." There's no reason Axel can't do what Jamie Noble and Joey Mercury did earlier this year.
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How has this thread degenerated into CyNick vs. The World/Logic in a handicap match? Are the guys on the podcast gonna read all this out?
Lol of course they didn't. If CyNick wants to argue then we can argue. It's just banter at the end of the day. I don't think anyone has anything serious riding in the constant back and forth. Except Curtis Axel fans.
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The WWE officially jumped the shark when Big E defeated Curtis Axel to win the Intercontinental Title.
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In all seriousness, Curtis Axel jumped the shark when Punk and Heyman started feuding.
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Yeah, really wish they would have kept Ryback out of that. It hurt both Ryback and Axel in the long term and Ryback is now staring to recover. Always wanted Paul to bring the Dangerous Alliance to the WWE. Could have Brock as their main guy and when he's there shits about to get dangerous. Axel and Cesaro would be great since they already have history with Paul. Then have Paul take a guy from NXT to finish out the group like Samoa Joe or Barron Corbin.
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Something like that would be cool. I think a Camp Heyman would certainly help out guys like Axel and Cesaro by putting them over as training partners for Brock. I can see the allure in having Brock be an island all unto himself however.
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Heyman managing Asuka needs to happen.
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I could get behind that. They should use Heymen more but without all the Brock talk. That's what killed his time with Cesaro. If he was to bring in a new Dangerous Alliance I wouldn't want the focus to be about Brock. Best thing would be to build up Cesaro with Paul and eventuay lead to a Cesaro/Leaner match where Paul would have to decide who he was backing.
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That should have been the plan. I remember thinking the Cesaro/Heyman pairing was brilliant. Cesaro was actually on the rise, unlike Curtis Axel when he was repackaged, and him selling out Zeb to move up made it feel like having Heyman in your corner meant something -- and it added some personality depth to Cesaro. It also took Brock breaking the streak and sort of transmitted that heat, via Heyman, into Cesaro's presentation. At first. Then Paul just started talking about Brock whenever Cesaro and himself were out there.

Cesaro should have had a one-on-one match with Jack Swagger at Extreme Rules '14. I guess they felt they needed to have Rob Van Dam in there for the pure babyface element, but the personal issues between Cesaro and Swagger didn't need it. Cesaro should have won that match cleanly, moved onwards and upwards from The Real Americans. Sheamus was a good choice for a Cesaro opponent in Chicago, because it would have allowed Cesaro to remain heel and still be cheered against a guy whose direction at the time wouldn't have suffered for it. But then they somewhat randomly placed the US Title on Sheamus and they needed to put him over at Payback. Ugh.

And, if you ask me, Cesaro would have been a wonderful choice to win Money in the Bank last year. Rollins was not bad, don't get me wrong, and it adds to the idea of him selling out and joining The Authority, but Cesaro was on the rise as a singles act, whereas Rollins was just stepping out on his own. Blood feuds with Ambrose and Reigns could have sold themselves and didn't need to happen. Plus, I think some mid-card reigns with the IC and US Titles would have had a benefit for each guy from The Shield.

Hell, it's arguable that The Shield shouldn't have been broken up at all. Issues with The Wyatt Family could have easily been played out heading into a huge SummerSlam blow-off between them, and The Shield was close to becoming an attraction on its own as a unit. Later in the year you had The New Day forming, so you could have continued a trend of awesome six-man tags there. Whatever.

And I still maintain that Cesaro should have been Cena's WrestleMania opponent this year. The chemistry between those two is phenomenal, and Rusev could have been featured elsewhere -- perhaps even winning the Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royal.
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What is exactly?
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Old 11-17-2015, 09:41 AM   #268
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The Rock and Triple H both saw something in Curtis Axel. It hasn't come to forefront yet, but I really hope it does. He's a good carpenter that might not ever get to the main event level, but he's got a place. Love the guy's selling, intensity and trash-talking.

He's a guy that I'd like to see an E60/Breaking Ground type special on. I want reasons to like Axel and feel like I know him, because as he stands, he's just a guy in wrestling trunks playing Superstar right now. Axel might be missing charisma, but I feel that there is some sort of presentation road-block the WWE are facing with him.

At the very worst, he could make a great in-ring component to a heel faction -- whether it's him being "found" by Bray Wyatt, or joining up with The Authority's next "Corporate Champion." There's no reason Axel can't do what Jamie Noble and Joey Mercury did earlier this year.
I have no issue with that. I just don't see anything 'special' in him thus far. But I've been wrong on guys before...I think I have anyway.
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Lol of course they didn't. If CyNick wants to argue then we can argue. It's just banter at the end of the day. I don't think anyone has anything serious riding in the constant back and forth. Except Curtis Axel fans.
I don't argue. I just post my opinion, which happens to draw a lot of attention. I back up my opinion. Maybe that is arguing. My bad if it is. Hope everyone still likes me .
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lol shut the hell up
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I don't argue. I just post my opinion, which happens to draw a lot of attention. I back up my opinion. Maybe that is arguing. My bad if it is. Hope everyone still likes me .
Riddle me this: If you don't argue, then why the hell does the text in your avatar read "Arguments from The CyNick"?!
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I would argue that an argument isn't necessarily arguing.
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I would argue that an argument isn't necessarily arguing.
Yeah, do like you always do when you don't have an actual response to someone here: Make a post that changes the subject to "I'm always right.", tuck your tail between your legs and run away.
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Yeah, do like you always do when you don't have an actual response to someone here: Make a post that changes the subject to "I'm always right.", tuck your tail between your legs and run away.
I'm right here man. Let's hash this thing out.
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Big E, now that's a star!
I always find myself wondering now how Big E will fair after New Day splits up.....
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