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Old 11-18-2015, 12:32 PM   #1
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There's two flaws that have popped up however, in regards to people being ready and the legitimacy of the title.

Firstly, saying guys like RVD weren't ready for the title because he wasn't "on Triple H's level" is silly. Was Triple H on Steve Austin's level when he won his first title? Was John Cena on "Triple H's level" when he won his first title?

By the time of Unforgiven 2002, Rob Van Dam had been one of the most over guys in the company for over a year. Winning that title would have put him on Triple H's level, or as close as he ever would be, seeing as nobody could come close to being on the level of the guy who's banging the bosses daughter.

The other issue is Triple H's reign legitimizing a title. It's a valid point, but did it really need a three year reign of terror to do so? Do casual fans and ten-year-old kids care about the history of the title?
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Old 11-18-2015, 06:59 PM   #2
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There's two flaws that have popped up however, in regards to people being ready and the legitimacy of the title.

Firstly, saying guys like RVD weren't ready for the title because he wasn't "on Triple H's level" is silly. Was Triple H on Steve Austin's level when he won his first title? Was John Cena on "Triple H's level" when he won his first title?

By the time of Unforgiven 2002, Rob Van Dam had been one of the most over guys in the company for over a year. Winning that title would have put him on Triple H's level, or as close as he ever would be, seeing as nobody could come close to being on the level of the guy who's banging the bosses daughter.

The other issue is Triple H's reign legitimizing a title. It's a valid point, but did it really need a three year reign of terror to do so? Do casual fans and ten-year-old kids care about the history of the title?
Thank you!

Anyone who thinks Triple H vs. Booker T at WrestleMania XIX was a good piece of business is a fucking moron. Anyone who thinks Triple H's long run with the belt, beating down far more interesting babyface acts was a good piece of business just needs to look at their ratings compared to SmackDown's.

That's not a blast at Triple H, by the way. That's just the reality of RAW '02-'05.

Dumbest thing said in this thread: "The long term money match in 2003 was with Goldberg, and I believe when the time was right, they put the strap on Goldberg"

Bwahahahaha!
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Old 11-18-2015, 08:33 PM   #3
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Thank you!

Anyone who thinks Triple H vs. Booker T at WrestleMania XIX was a good piece of business is a fucking moron. Anyone who thinks Triple H's long run with the belt, beating down far more interesting babyface acts was a good piece of business just needs to look at their ratings compared to SmackDown's.

That's not a blast at Triple H, by the way. That's just the reality of RAW '02-'05.

Dumbest thing said in this thread: "The long term money match in 2003 was with Goldberg, and I believe when the time was right, they put the strap on Goldberg"

Bwahahahaha!
So how should Booker T vs HHH went down at 19? Did you just not like the finish? Did you think Flair shouldnt have kept getting involved so HHH could just win clean? How would you have improved the piece of business? Booker go over clean?

Which other babyfaces did he "beat down" during that time? RVD I'm assuming? Was it okay that he beat The Hurricane? Or was he right on the cusp of headlining as well?

Sorry, in your mind, what was the long term money match for HHH in 2003 if not Goldberg? Or was it the timing that you didnt like? You already had Booker T or RVD beating HHH, so really I guess the long term match would be something like Booker T vs Goldberg? Dont forget Goldberg is going to leave the WWE in a few months, so if you put him over everyone, you might be left with no eggs in your basket. But I'm sure you already thought of that.
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Old 11-18-2015, 09:37 PM   #4
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So how should Booker T vs HHH went down at 19? Did you just not like the finish? Did you think Flair shouldnt have kept getting involved so HHH could just win clean? How would you have improved the piece of business? Booker go over clean?

Which other babyfaces did he "beat down" during that time? RVD I'm assuming? Was it okay that he beat The Hurricane? Or was he right on the cusp of headlining as well?

Sorry, in your mind, what was the long term money match for HHH in 2003 if not Goldberg? Or was it the timing that you didnt like? You already had Booker T or RVD beating HHH, so really I guess the long term match would be something like Booker T vs Goldberg? Dont forget Goldberg is going to leave the WWE in a few months, so if you put him over everyone, you might be left with no eggs in your basket. But I'm sure you already thought of that.
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Old 11-18-2015, 10:36 PM   #5
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About the response I would expect from you. I love when I set the bar low for you, and you still manage to limbo your way under it.
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Old 11-18-2015, 08:25 PM   #6
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There's two flaws that have popped up however, in regards to people being ready and the legitimacy of the title.

Firstly, saying guys like RVD weren't ready for the title because he wasn't "on Triple H's level" is silly. Was Triple H on Steve Austin's level when he won his first title? Was John Cena on "Triple H's level" when he won his first title?

By the time of Unforgiven 2002, Rob Van Dam had been one of the most over guys in the company for over a year. Winning that title would have put him on Triple H's level, or as close as he ever would be, seeing as nobody could come close to being on the level of the guy who's banging the bosses daughter.

The other issue is Triple H's reign legitimizing a title. It's a valid point, but did it really need a three year reign of terror to do so? Do casual fans and ten-year-old kids care about the history of the title?
You cant have Triple H put over everyone and still remain a credible draw himself. When you have a star the caliber of HHH, you want to use him to make new stars, who you think can eventually carry the ball. I really dont think a guy like RVD was someone you want to invest in. History would prove this true when they finally did put the title on him, and he embarrassed the company by getting poppe for drug arrest.

Did Triple H have the belt for three years? He was a top guy, and he managed to make or help make new top stars in 04, 05 and 06. Who else should have carried the company during that time period?
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