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Old 11-23-2015, 06:52 PM   #201
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Sticks and stones.

I think less of you for editing. That was my point.
I edited for Gorgeous Dale and his sensibilities, not for you. Don't flatter yourself, bro.
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Old 11-23-2015, 06:56 PM   #202
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I'm not saying Rollins and Hunter were booked exactly the same. The initial point was Hunter never lost in 03-05 Thats utter crap. He lost the key matches. Guys like you are on about Rollins losing random TV non title matches that only you guys will remember in 5 years. Despite your claims that Rollins was crapped on, the fans chanted "thank you Rollins" when his injury was announced. So clearly WWE did a good job building him up to someone the fans care about.

Have you seen me try to change anyone's opinion about Booker T? I just always felt Batista was the overall better talent. If someone else thinks that if Booker T would have stood up to the racist HHH in 03, and been booked strong, he would have been seen as a modern day hero for the black community, and would have gotten over like crazy, that's cool. My main points are A) I had no problem with HHH going over the way he did and B) Batista ended up being not only the bigger star in the business, but appears to be in elite company of guys who will become Hollywood success stories.

I know Goldberg wasnt committed because I've heard him talk in interviews. He wasn't like John Cena looking to make every town and do all this extra stuff to help the company. And fair play to Goldberg, he was in a financial position where he could get by doing the bare minimum. But as a result, he was never going to be someone WWE built around long term. Imagine being a young John Cena seeing Goldberg as the top guy, working maybe once a week, not having great matches, and just mailing it in. Is that going to motivate you to bust your ass and make that radio gig in Des Moines at 8AM to push a house show?
This post is full of that "one or the other" horse shit that is such a logical fallacy that it's not even worth replying to. This is where a Cornette face becomes appropriate.

Fans popped for Hardcore Holly when he came back from injury. Whoop-dee-fuck. He was booked shit, you're wrong. It's not even opinion. You can look at his actual win-loss record and statistically record how he performed as a champion. You can subjectively like Seth Rollins and his sports entertainment-style of losing as champion all you like; but you cannot argue that he was booked well without damaging your own integrity.
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Old 11-23-2015, 06:59 PM   #203
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Right, so a bunch of hearsay. Vince has final say, he doesn't run everything by every member of creative, or every star on the roster.

Why not go to the source?

Because the source won't feed the narrative they are trying to sell you to get you to read the next newsletter to get the scoopz.
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Old 11-23-2015, 07:01 PM   #204
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Old 11-23-2015, 07:11 PM   #205
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Remember even CyNick went to the source for that tweet he cited, only he didn't?

Also, did you guys know Triple H was pinned less than 10 times from the minute he won the title from Foley all the way through Backlash 2000? Two of those times Austin cost him the title.

I like how the losing champ argument went from "a heel can't win all the time or it'll turn him face" to "well Hunter lost the key matches".

Wanna know a key match? Summer Slam 03. Elimination Chamber that Goldberg dominates, the crowd hot for him to take the belt, only for him t lose to Triple H, who had taken a 30 minute nap.

Instead they waited to a lesser show, in a forgettable match nobody remembers.
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Old 11-23-2015, 07:12 PM   #206
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Old 11-23-2015, 07:12 PM   #207
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Yeah, don't remember Triple H losing too many "key" matches. He beat Booker T in their key match; he beat Goldberg in their key match; he beat Randy Orton in their key match. That takes us through until Batista.
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Old 11-23-2015, 07:16 PM   #208
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Old 11-23-2015, 07:18 PM   #209
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You are a cunt, Gorgeous Dale is not. Real simple.
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Old 11-23-2015, 07:18 PM   #210
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HHH and Shawn Michaels for the most part.
And Benoit beat one or both of them on three PPVs. Yet somehow he wasnt the focal point.
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Old 11-23-2015, 07:23 PM   #211
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Remember even CyNick went to the source for that tweet he cited, only he didn't?

Also, did you guys know Triple H was pinned less than 10 times from the minute he won the title from Foley all the way through Backlash 2000? Two of those times Austin cost him the title.

I like how the losing champ argument why from "a heel can't win all the time or it'll turn him face" to "well Hunter lost the key matches".

Wanna know a key match? Summer Slam 03. Elimination Chamber that Goldberg dominates, the crowd hot for him to take the belt, only for him t lose to Triple H, who had taken a 30 minute nap.

Instead they waited to a lesser show, in a forgettable match nobody remembers.
Maybe it was a mistake, maybe it built heat. Point is, Hunter still put him over for the strap.

Do you really think it made a huge difference? Rock probably should have won the belt at 16, but he actually won the next month. Did that prevent Rock from being a massively over babyface? Did it prevent him from being the most recognizable talent in the company's history? Rock is talented, he made it work. If you really think Goldberg not winning at one PPV vs another made a difference, well, you are a card carrying member of the IWC.
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Old 11-23-2015, 07:24 PM   #212
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Old 11-23-2015, 07:25 PM   #213
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Old 11-23-2015, 07:32 PM   #214
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Maybe it was a mistake, maybe it built heat. Point is, Hunter still put him over for the strap.

Do you really think it made a huge difference? Rock probably should have won the belt at 16, but he actually won the next month. Did that prevent Rock from being a massively over babyface? Did it prevent him from being the most recognizable talent in the company's history? Rock is talented, he made it work. If you really think Goldberg not winning at one PPV vs another made a difference, well, you are a card carrying member of the IWC.
Or, you know, can see how business dipped after they did it.

P.S. Haha, I don't hate you. You're just a cunt.
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And Benoit beat one or both of them on three PPVs. Yet somehow he wasnt the focal point.
I like how repeating exactly what happened in a sarcastic tone some how makes it not a fact.
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BTW I think its time for a new storyline
Rey Misterio's terrible title run
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Or, you know, can see how business dipped after they did it.

P.S. Haha, I don't hate you. You're just a cunt.
So business was rising up until Summerslam, and then it went down right after?

I honestly dont remember, maybe it did.
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Rey Misterio's terrible title run
Good intention, Vince trying to do something nice, but Rey was just way too unbelievable as champion.

I think I kinda tuned out around that time so hard to comment.
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So business was rising up until Summerslam, and then it went down right after?

I honestly dont remember, maybe it did.
About 500,000 people tuned out.
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Good intention, Vince trying to do something nice, but Rey was just way too unbelievable as champion.

I think I kinda tuned out around that time so hard to comment.
they jobbed him mercilessly as champion of their company lol
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you are a card carrying member of the IWC.
Being a member of this forum pretty much makes you member of the IWC. Yes that means you too CyNick.
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Maybe it was a mistake, maybe it built heat. Point is, Hunter still put him over for the strap.

Do you really think it made a huge difference? Rock probably should have won the belt at 16, but he actually won the next month. Did that prevent Rock from being a massively over babyface? Did it prevent him from being the most recognizable talent in the company's history? Rock is talented, he made it work. If you really think Goldberg not winning at one PPV vs another made a difference, well, you are a card carrying member of the IWC.
I like that you're dancing around the topic and trying to go off track. Nobody is bringing up how big of a star Rock was.

Of course when he lost matters, because you yourself pointed out that he lost the "key"matches, which isn't entirely the case. He walked out of two marquees main events as champ. Key matches don't happen at secondary events. Hunter won the big matches, then jobbed at the lesser show. Unless of course you consider backlash and whatever b show he lost to Goldberg on a key event.

You're also trying to dance around your original "heels can't win often" statement you used to defend the Rollins booking by saying "well Hunter won, but lost the key matches and lost a lot in his initial run", which is statistically false.

Your name should be SpiNick instead.
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Good intention, Vince trying to do something nice, but Rey was just way too unbelievable as champion.

I think I kinda tuned out around that time so hard to comment.
nope, was all business in terms of Hispanic TV numbers and a huge groundswell of support from the boys and the writers for Rey. Vince was the one person that needed to be convinced to run with it, which didn't last very long, hence the not so glamourous title run.
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About 500,000 people tuned out.
From when to when? Like are you saying one RAW was say 5 million viewers, then Goldberg lost at Summerslam and next week was 4.5 million viewers?
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Old 11-24-2015, 11:19 AM   #227
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they jobbed him mercilessly as champion of their company lol
Because he never should have been champion in the first place. Most of my friends are casual fans at best of WWE. I always remember my friends saying it looks dumb when Rey fights someone like Kane or Taker. So you have to book Rey like an underdog.
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I like that you're dancing around the topic and trying to go off track. Nobody is bringing up how big of a star Rock was.

Of course when he lost matters, because you yourself pointed out that he lost the "key"matches, which isn't entirely the case. He walked out of two marquees main events as champ. Key matches don't happen at secondary events. Hunter won the big matches, then jobbed at the lesser show. Unless of course you consider backlash and whatever b show he lost to Goldberg on a key event.

You're also trying to dance around your original "heels can't win often" statement you used to defend the Rollins booking by saying "well Hunter won, but lost the key matches and lost a lot in his initial run", which is statistically false.

Your name should be SpiNick instead.
Someone said Trips put off losing to Goldberg at the big show (Summerslam), in favor of another show. My response was they did that with Rocky in 2000 and it didn't impact his success one bit. My point is if Goldberg was going to be able to hold an audience, him winning the belt 4 weeks later would not have made a difference. Goldberg fizzled out just like he did in WCW because his act is a short term act. There's no sustainability to his gimmick.

Regarding the losing. My point with Rollins was he can't just dominate every babyface within the first 6 months of his reign. This was in n reference to losing matches primarily to Cena. Hunter was in a different position. In his first year after winning the belt, he not only lost matches, but he lost the belt to unworthy opponents. In the end, he got over, because he's talented. In the 03-05 timeframe he's a different type of champion, but even still, he was booked similarly to Rollins in that he defended the title against the B players (Kane, Ambrose, Booker, RVD) but lost to the A players (Goldberg, Batista, etc and then in Rollins case it would have been losing to Reigns).

I get it, HHH is the devil in these parts. You need someone to point to and blame the shortcomings of your favourites on.
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Someone said Trips put off losing to Goldberg at the big show (Summerslam), in favor of another show. My response was they did that with Rocky in 2000 and it didn't impact his success one bit. My point is if Goldberg was going to be able to hold an audience, him winning the belt 4 weeks later would not have made a difference. Goldberg fizzled out just like he did in WCW because his act is a short term act. There's no sustainability to his gimmick.

Regarding the losing. My point with Rollins was he can't just dominate every babyface within the first 6 months of his reign. This was in n reference to losing matches primarily to Cena. Hunter was in a different position. In his first year after winning the belt, he not only lost matches, but he lost the belt to unworthy opponents. In the end, he got over, because he's talented. In the 03-05 timeframe he's a different type of champion, but even still, he was booked similarly to Rollins in that he defended the title against the B players (Kane, Ambrose, Booker, RVD) but lost to the A players (Goldberg, Batista, etc and then in Rollins case it would have been losing to Reigns).

I get it, HHH is the devil in these parts. You need someone to point to and blame the shortcomings of your favourites on.
Christ. You said, above, Hunter lost the key matches. And you're wrong. He lost secondary matches after winning the big match hyped at the headline events. Stop beating around the bush. Everyone can see you wrote "key matches" and everyone knows the key matches happened at Summer Slam and Mania, not b shows.

You also pointed out that Hunter, supposedly, didn't go around dominating in his initial reign, which you were wrong about again. Hunter constantly got dq'd and was rarely pinned in his initial run, and two of those pins saw him being shafted and were far from clean.

You keep trying to change the subject but it's clear that because you're too lazy to fact check you're instead trying to pull info out of your ass and making false statements, only to back track and try and change direction of conversation.

Case in point, please point out something I've said blaming Hunter for beating a wrestler I like. Can you cite it? Or is it another one of your SpiNick tactics to distract others from calling you out on your forever changing stance.
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Christ. You said, above, Hunter lost the key matches. And you're wrong. He lost secondary matches after winning the big match hyped at the headline events. Stop beating around the bush. Everyone can see you wrote "key matches" and everyone knows the key matches happened at Summer Slam and Mania, not b shows.

You also pointed out that Hunter, supposedly, didn't go around dominating in his initial reign, which you were wrong about again. Hunter constantly got dq'd and was rarely pinned in his initial run, and two of those pins saw him being shafted and were far from clean.

You keep trying to change the subject but it's clear that because you're too lazy to fact check you're instead trying to pull info out of your ass and making false statements, only to back track and try and change direction of conversation.

Case in point, please point out something I've said blaming Hunter for beating a wrestler I like. Can you cite it? Or is it another one of your SpiNick tactics to distract others from calling you out on your forever changing stance.
Here I thought Mania 20, 21, and 22 were pretty big shows.

I haven't changed the discussion at all. Can someone explain why Rock got over by losing at Mania then winning the next month vs the Goldberg losing at Summerslam deal? Its the exact same scenario, but according to IWC logic it caused Goldberg to be a dead character and yet with Rocky it didn't hurt him one bit.
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Can you quote where I said that?

You said he lost a lot in his initial run. False. You said he lost "key" matches. False. Now you're trying to argue "well it didn't hurt business", which isn't the point.

You're arguing a point with yourself. You said Hunte lost like Rollins. Wrong. You said he lost key matches. Wrong. Everything else your spewing to avoid acknowledging that, including this new Wrestlemania malarkey you're now bringing up i is irrelevant.

Spin spin spin.
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And let us not forget.

"Heels have to lose or they'll go face".

"Triple H didn't lose much at from 2002-2005".

"Well he lost the key matches".

"Didn't be beat a shit hot Goldberg in the Summer Slam main event and drop the belt at a later b show and win a Mania main event?"

"Well it didn't hurt Goldberg or the business and the point is he still lost and he also lost at a bunch of events nobody else is referencing and iwc logic wants to blame for beating guys they like and boy the Rock did just fine in losing and Hunter was different but lost initially and the key matches and don't get butt hurt and call Triple H the devil and BAH GAWD BATISTA".

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I'll give you guys credit, you guys are amazing at ignoring facts that disprove your theory.

Hunter lost key/big matches such as Mania 20, 21 and 22. This is during the period you guys are talking about where he supposedly never lost. Every year he lost the BIG MATCH, usually at Mania.

SEPARATE FROM THAT he lost key matches to Goldberg. You're right, he didn't win the clusterf match at Summerslam where everyone would have accused him of dropping the strap in a multi person match vs losing it one on one. He then went on the next TWO PPVs including a "key" PPV called Survivor Series and put over Goldy in the middle. Goldberg proved he wasn't in it for the long haul, so they put the belt back on Hunter, but didnt even do it one on one. Hunter then went on to put over Benoit for the next 6 months, including the biggest match to that point at Mania.

Now, let's explore the issue of the impact of Goldberg not winning at Summerslam. I believe it was our good friend Noid who said WWE lost like 500k viewers or something. I don't know if that's true, but I'll take his word for it. In 2000, Rock was in a similar position, he won the belt a month after the big match, and business didn't collapse. It causes me to pause and ask what was the difference? The obvious answer to me is Rock was far superior to Goldberg, and Goldberg would have never worked long term because he's so limited. But that's a point of opinion, I concede.

I also never said Hunter and Seth were booked EXACTLY the same. I just pointed out some similarities. The narrative on these parts in Rollins lost "all the time", which is BS. My line about heels winning all the time doesn't apply to Hunter, because as I've pointed out numerous times, in every year he was champion, he lost to the challenger in that year. 2000 it was Rock, 03 is it was Goldberg, 04 it was Benoit, 05 it was Batista, 06 it was Cena. But ya'll want to ignore all that. No worries though, just makes for a fun back and forth.
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About 500,000 people tuned out.
In 2002 Unforgiven did 44% fewer buys than Summerslam.

In 2003 Unforgiven did 23% fewer buys than Summerslam.

Unforgiven YoY was 20% higher in 2003. So business didn't decline in the key area.
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I'll give you guys credit, you guys are amazing at ignoring facts that disprove your theory.

Hunter lost key/big matches such as Mania 20, 21 and 22. This is during the period you guys are talking about where he supposedly never lost. Every year he lost the BIG MATCH, usually at Mania.

SEPARATE FROM THAT he lost key matches to Goldberg. You're right, he didn't win the clusterf match at Summerslam where everyone would have accused him of dropping the strap in a multi person match vs losing it one on one. He then went on the next TWO PPVs including a "key" PPV called Survivor Series and put over Goldy in the middle. Goldberg proved he wasn't in it for the long haul, so they put the belt back on Hunter, but didnt even do it one on one. Hunter then went on to put over Benoit for the next 6 months, including the biggest match to that point at Mania.

Now, let's explore the issue of the impact of Goldberg not winning at Summerslam. I believe it was our good friend Noid who said WWE lost like 500k viewers or something. I don't know if that's true, but I'll take his word for it. In 2000, Rock was in a similar position, he won the belt a month after the big match, and business didn't collapse. It causes me to pause and ask what was the difference? The obvious answer to me is Rock was far superior to Goldberg, and Goldberg would have never worked long term because he's so limited. But that's a point of opinion, I concede.

I also never said Hunter and Seth were booked EXACTLY the same. I just pointed out some similarities. The narrative on these parts in Rollins lost "all the time", which is BS. My line about heels winning all the time doesn't apply to Hunter, because as I've pointed out numerous times, in every year he was champion, he lost to the challenger in that year. 2000 it was Rock, 03 is it was Goldberg, 04 it was Benoit, 05 it was Batista, 06 it was Cena. But ya'll want to ignore all that. No worries though, just makes for a fun back and forth.
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Because he never should have been champion in the first place. Most of my friends are casual fans at best of WWE. I always remember my friends saying it looks dumb when Rey fights someone like Kane or Taker. So you have to book Rey like an underdog.
LMFAO THEN DON'T PUT THE BELT ON HIM
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lol These SHEEP avoiding FACTS so they can believe what they wanna believe, right Cynick!?! Anyways...

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I've honestly never seen another situation in any form of scripted entertainment where two people in the middle of a heated feud seemingly became best friends again off-camera between episodes with no explanation...

Because that would be some all-time horrible writing and outside of WWE currently, even the trashiest, shittiest TV shows and movies have higher writing standards than that.
Anything on that yet or nah?
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From when to when? Like are you saying one RAW was say 5 million viewers, then Goldberg lost at Summerslam and next week was 4.5 million viewers?
4 million dropped to 3.5 million. They tuned in after SummerSlam and then the massive drop off in the weeks after.
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Someone said Trips put off losing to Goldberg at the big show (Summerslam), in favor of another show. My response was they did that with Rocky in 2000 and it didn't impact his success one bit. My point is if Goldberg was going to be able to hold an audience, him winning the belt 4 weeks later would not have made a difference. Goldberg fizzled out just like he did in WCW because his act is a short term act. There's no sustainability to his gimmick.

Regarding the losing. My point with Rollins was he can't just dominate every babyface within the first 6 months of his reign. This was in n reference to losing matches primarily to Cena. Hunter was in a different position. In his first year after winning the belt, he not only lost matches, but he lost the belt to unworthy opponents. In the end, he got over, because he's talented. In the 03-05 timeframe he's a different type of champion, but even still, he was booked similarly to Rollins in that he defended the title against the B players (Kane, Ambrose, Booker, RVD) but lost to the A players (Goldberg, Batista, etc and then in Rollins case it would have been losing to Reigns).

I get it, HHH is the devil in these parts. You need someone to point to and blame the shortcomings of your favourites on.
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