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Old 11-25-2015, 11:24 AM   #1
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For some perspective:

MNF featured the undefeated New England Patriots, one of the biggest draws in the sport. As a result MNF had more than 2 million viewers WoW or a 17% gain.

RAW lost 300K viewers WoW or a 10% decline in viewership. Keep in mind, this is before any DVR numbers are calculated.

Another show I track on Monday's is this Love and Hip Hop show on VH1 which does well on Mondays. It was down 13% in viewership. I tried to see if there was panick on the L&HH message board, but couldn't find the thread on ratings. Its a good indication that RAW wasn't so much bad, as MNF just had the game that casual fans felt was can't miss.

RAW was as usual one of the top 3 most watched things on cable on Monday night. It usually hovers between #2 and #3, depending on how well Sportscenter does (up 9% this week). Clearly football was devastating to RAW this week, but it'll be intetesting to see if the DVR numbers make up some of the decline WoW. That said, declines are never a good thing, but context is important.
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Old 11-25-2015, 01:48 PM   #2
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For some perspective:

MNF featured the undefeated New England Patriots, one of the biggest draws in the sport. As a result MNF had more than 2 million viewers WoW or a 17% gain.
I wonder if the patriots played last year on MNF, I wonder what the numbers were then.
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Old 11-25-2015, 02:26 PM   #3
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I might be wrong on this given I live in a different country, but I'm fairly certain this National Football League we're hearing about is more than a couple of years old, and may in fact have been playing every year at this time for every one of the last 18 years. If they did better ratings that entire time, I'm wondering if the football defense may have a hole or two in there.

Im not denying that competition isn't an issue, but its time to look in the mirror.
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Old 11-25-2015, 02:41 PM   #4
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I might be wrong on this given I live in a different country, but I'm fairly certain this National Football League we're hearing about is more than a couple of years old, and may in fact have been playing every year at this time for every one of the last 18 years. If they did better ratings that entire time, I'm wondering if the football defense may have a hole or two in there.

Im not denying that competition isn't an issue, but its time to look in the mirror.
but this year the NFL drugged the audience to all over the states to strictly tune into the patriots vs the bills
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Old 11-25-2015, 04:07 PM   #5
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I might be wrong on this given I live in a different country, but I'm fairly certain this National Football League we're hearing about is more than a couple of years old, and may in fact have been playing every year at this time for every one of the last 18 years. If they did better ratings that entire time, I'm wondering if the football defense may have a hole or two in there.

Im not denying that competition isn't an issue, but its time to look in the mirror.
As I've stated, any ratings decline is not good. But when other shows show the same pattern as RAW (worse actually) it indicates that on that week, football siphoned viewers.
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Old 11-25-2015, 04:15 PM   #6
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As I've stated, any ratings decline is not good. But when other shows show the same pattern as RAW (worse actually) it indicates that on that week, football siphoned viewers.
I remember after the TV deal was announced, Vince said it wasn't a long term deal, which means they're probably going to start negotiations in a year or so. Declining ratings gives USA more leverage to pay a lower amount for the rights and charge less for ad time.
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Old 11-25-2015, 04:26 PM   #7
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I remember after the TV deal was announced, Vince said it wasn't a long term deal, which means they're probably going to start negotiations in a year or so. Declining ratings gives USA more leverage to pay a lower amount for the rights and charge less for ad time.
Which is contradicted by record intetest from advertisers. More demand means higher price. WWE knows this increase in intetest is happening, so they will likely ask for more. On top of that you have a lot of cable networks looking for programming that will raise their average. WWE even with the recent decline would still increase the average for the majority of cable networks. In the end, their fees should at least stay the same, if not increase.

The more intetesting thing to me will be do they lock in long term this time around. A lot of people are predicting a decline in TV rights fees across the board in the next decade as viewing habits change.
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I remember after the TV deal was announced, Vince said it wasn't a long term deal, which means they're probably going to start negotiations in a year or so. Declining ratings gives USA more leverage to pay a lower amount for the rights and charge less for ad time.
Think 2017 is when the clause in the current contract comes up. Sort of like TNA's deal with Destination America but with the WWE and not USA being the ones to opt out.

Investors might try to force Vince out for real if he fails or lies about getting a massive deal again. Stocks still haven't fully recovered from that blunder and the Network being well under what the WWE kept hyping.
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I wonder if the patriots played last year on MNF, I wonder what the numbers were then.
You can't compare games YoY. We're the Pats undefeated when they played, was it this far into the season? Were other entertainment shows trending in the same direction as RAW.

But don't worry gloss over the entire point.
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