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Old 11-26-2015, 03:47 PM   #1
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I just think Trips had a bigger impact and drew more money. A lot more.
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Old 11-26-2015, 04:30 PM   #2
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I love Triple H, but there is no way you are critiquing certain people for not having quotes or stats to back up some of their arguments, when surely you have made the same error with that statement.

There is absolutely no way to prove that Hunter made more money than Sting. There were very view events where Hunter was the main attraction (and by that I mean the reason the majority bought their ticket) and it would be impossible to count the money he made.

Same with Sting, but he was doing great business when Hunter was a jobber on his show. He did amazing business just by sitting in the rafters and watching matches. Sting is iconic and the face of WCW. If your opinion is that Hunter drew more due to his position and big matches, that's fine, but there is no way you can say he drew a lot more than Sting.

Sting is iconic and comfortably top 10 in GOAT debate, Hunter isn't IMO.
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Old 11-26-2015, 11:54 PM   #3
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I love Triple H, but there is no way you are critiquing certain people for not having quotes or stats to back up some of their arguments, when surely you have made the same error with that statement.

There is absolutely no way to prove that Hunter made more money than Sting. There were very view events where Hunter was the main attraction (and by that I mean the reason the majority bought their ticket) and it would be impossible to count the money he made.

Same with Sting, but he was doing great business when Hunter was a jobber on his show. He did amazing business just by sitting in the rafters and watching matches. Sting is iconic and the face of WCW. If your opinion is that Hunter drew more due to his position and big matches, that's fine, but there is no way you can say he drew a lot more than Sting.

Sting is iconic and comfortably top 10 in GOAT debate, Hunter isn't IMO.
Sting in the rafters was the only period you could argue he made huge money for the company. Until Goldberg came along, he was the #1 face in WCW, without working. An amazing feat.

However, HHH has worked near or at the top of the card for call it 10+ Wrestlemanias, many of those were 60k+ fans in attendance. Sting headlined ONE PPV that did massive business, without looking I would say HHH probably was a key draw in 10+ PPVs that did way more than that, many doing in the million range.

HHH headlined with Austin and Rock on house show runs. I dont know what those did in terms of dollars, but no way Sting had a better run than that.

Business wise, I dont even think its close to be honest.
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Old 11-27-2015, 12:02 PM   #4
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Sting in the rafters was the only period you could argue he made huge money for the company. Until Goldberg came along, he was the #1 face in WCW, without working. An amazing feat.

However, HHH has worked near or at the top of the card for call it 10+ Wrestlemanias, many of those were 60k+ fans in attendance. Sting headlined ONE PPV that did massive business, without looking I would say HHH probably was a key draw in 10+ PPVs that did way more than that, many doing in the million range.

HHH headlined with Austin and Rock on house show runs. I dont know what those did in terms of dollars, but no way Sting had a better run than that.

Business wise, I dont even think its close to be honest.
HHH was at those events and main evented many, but I just wonder how many people bought their tickets to see HHH, or even to see HHH get his comeuppance. He was a supporting star and I don't think you could argue that he sold tickets on his own.

Sting sold tickets on his name alone across quite a wide generation, people of all ages came to see Sting. I think that is the difference.

In saying that, I wouldn't use him at all now because I feel his time has passed and totally agree with you on that point.

Triple H drawing a lot more than Sting is dubious though.
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Old 11-27-2015, 03:17 PM   #5
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HHH was at those events and main evented many, but I just wonder how many people bought their tickets to see HHH, or even to see HHH get his comeuppance. He was a supporting star and I don't think you could argue that he sold tickets on his own.

Sting sold tickets on his name alone across quite a wide generation, people of all ages came to see Sting. I think that is the difference.

In saying that, I wouldn't use him at all now because I feel his time has passed and totally agree with you on that point.

Triple H drawing a lot more than Sting is dubious though.
Bischoff said he shut down most of WCWs touring when he started. That would have been when Sting was one of the top guys in WCW.

Sting's real drawing period was the height of the NWO. So at best he would be sharing those numbers with them. And compared to Hunter's run on top, it was a short period of time.

Figuring out a star's drawing ability is murky at best, but like I said, I just don't see it as being close.
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Old 11-26-2015, 11:47 PM   #6
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Curious where you think Sting has HHH beat. Most TNA matches?
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Old 11-27-2015, 12:21 AM   #7
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Buyrates HHH dummies

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Number of all time great moments and matches HHH dummies

Curious where you think Sting has HHH beat. Most TNA matches?
Do you have actual numbers to back up these claims? I'm not debating with whether or not they're true. Just curious if there's factual evidence to support this.
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Old 11-27-2015, 12:24 AM   #8
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Curious where you think Sting has HHH beat. Most TNA matches?
Overall career quality. I guess you've never considered that Sting EARNED the right to be called "The Icon".
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