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Old 11-27-2015, 09:59 PM   #361
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I can only assume you dream of being Kevn Dunn. A creepy little weirdo with a poo fetish.
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Old 11-27-2015, 10:44 PM   #362
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I love how this place is so easily butthurt that one person can completely own the whole place.

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Old 11-27-2015, 10:49 PM   #363
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Actually Theddy Damndest, I know it's easy to go with that narrative if you're going to be black and white, but I don't think any body cares about someone enjoying the product and putting it over. What we get annoyed with is being told we're sheep because we don't enjoy the product.

I don't see this as about owning anyone and us being butthurt or trying to defeat the Cynick. We are responding to a guy telling us we don't understand something we have been a part of for multiple decades.

If anything, I want to give Cynick the chance to express his opinion without talking at us.
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Old 11-27-2015, 10:53 PM   #364
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and if your focus is on other people being butt hurt, I'd say you have some of your own issues you need to deal with.
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Old 11-28-2015, 12:58 AM   #365
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I admire your persistence.
Do you? Does that mean you're finally gonna respond to that post of mine you've been avoiding for a month (as I BELIEVE you gave your word you'd be doing in post 293 of the jump the shark thread) or are you just gonna admit you're backed into a corner as far as defending WWE's writing? Or are you just gonna keep ignoring it hoping it will go away and you can keep bullshitting your way into thinking WWE's writing is top notch? I bet you keep going with that last option. Just a hunch.
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Old 11-28-2015, 01:06 AM   #366
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I can only assume you dream of being Kevn Dunn. A creepy little weirdo with a poo fetish.
*tries to fart but accidentally poops*

*sends description of incident to Kevin Dunn to pitch at next creative meeting*
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Old 11-28-2015, 02:18 AM   #367
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Old 11-28-2015, 09:49 PM   #368
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Do you know what exactly Cornette contributed to WWE's rebuild? Dont tell me what the Dirt Sheet writers wrote, give me your own inside scoops. What I know is that since he left WWE, Cornette has not done anything worth talking about, except complain on the internet. Probably tells you all you need to know about his contributions vs Vince's.

You know who else had a major contribution to WWE's success in the late 90s? Vince Russo. Notice he didnt make your Wall of Fame (doesnt fit the narrative, I know). Did you see what happened to him after he left Vince's wing? I did too, it wasnt pretty.

Ive never once said "Vince is responsible for all the good and none of the bad". If I was an American, I would sue you for liable. But I'm a good natured Canadian, so I will let it pass. But hey, it upped your word count, so well done lad.

NXT has been reported as Triple H's baby. Of course the NXT Triple H is a different person than the Dirt Sheet villain Triple H who buries everyone so he can push himself. I bet he's just building NXT so that he can book himself against the entire roster and Pedigree them all. That aside, the issue that gets lost is that NXT is a company wide effort. Triple H has said himself that NXT is meant to target a different audience from RAW and Smackdown. Quite frankly, booking to satisfy the passionate WWE fans is easier, but it likely wont appeal to the wider audience. Thats why its on the WWE Network, which is essentialy made up of all passionate fans. At the end of the day, if Vince thought it was crap, he wouldn't allow it on his Network. But he does, and he pushes it like crazy, and allows it to grow.

Most interviews I've read of guys who were real players in WWE and would have had extensive experience with Vince usually have nothing but positive things to say about him.
Cornette came up with the Hell in a Cell idea, he was largely responsible for protecting Kane during the first six months of his career. He, Jim Ross and Bruce Pritchard would hang out with Vince at his house and block out the entire show. After leaving the main roster, he went down to OVW, where he helped craft basically anyone that came up from OVW at that point in time until Heyman took over in 2005.

His plans for ROH were basically what Triple H did with NXT, except Sinclair didn't commit to them. What a bad idea, huh?

Cornette and Russo are very different people with very different attitudes to the industry. It's not a case of not fitting the narrative, it's a case of them playing different roles in them.
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Old 11-28-2015, 09:51 PM   #369
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I can start a blog tomorrow about the NHL and get 100K followers. Doesnt mean Im going to get accredited to cover NHL games.
But if you're the biggest game in town, doesn't that mean you must be doing something right? Doesn't the market dictate which product should survive?
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Old 11-28-2015, 09:54 PM   #370
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But thats what guys are supposed to do. Vince took three guys going NOWHERE and said here's a platform, try to make it work.

New Day is actually a shining example of guys who went out and grabbed the brass ring that Vince talks about.

Just like when Vince put Hunter with Pac and The Outlaws, I dont think he envisioned they would do exactly what they did, but he gave them the platform, and they contributed creatively, and Vince gave it the green light. New Day is doing that today, just within the confines of a PG Universe.
And why were these guys going nowhere? Seems that whenever something good happens it's "Praise Vince!" and whenever nothing is happening, somehow it's the talent's fault. That seems especially contradictory to your alleged point that Vince McMahon is involved so heavily in the creative direction of everything, including NXT (which many insiders -- yes, people actually involved in the business -- have confirmed that he doesn't).
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Old 11-28-2015, 10:06 PM   #371
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Crediting Vince with getting the New Day over is hilarious. It's well documented that he intended for the group to be faces, and he could not understand at all why the group was getting booed to shit for months. He actually thought they were going to win over the crowds and especially the African-American demographic with that shit.

The members themselves acknowledged that Vince never saw them as a heel group. They basically turned themselves heel by realizing their reactions were terrible. At that point they no longer gave a fuck and had really nothing to lose so they decided to just have fun with it and it's worked spectacularly well, to the point where Vince can't go back to the original plan.

New Day has thrived in spite of Vince, not because of him.
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Old 11-28-2015, 11:55 PM   #372
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Crediting Vince with getting the New Day over is hilarious. It's well documented that he intended for the group to be faces, and he could not understand at all why the group was getting booed to shit for months. He actually thought they were going to win over the crowds and especially the African-American demographic with that shit.

The members themselves acknowledged that Vince never saw them as a heel group. They basically turned themselves heel by realizing their reactions were terrible. At that point they no longer gave a fuck and had really nothing to lose so they decided to just have fun with it and it's worked spectacularly well, to the point where Vince can't go back to the original plan.

New Day has thrived in spite of Vince, not because of him.
Yes but did Vince or HHH say that in an interview? Nope? Sorry It does not matter if the talent says it. Needs it to come from Vince or HHH.
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Old 11-29-2015, 01:37 AM   #373
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Kofi said in an interview that he himself want the group to be faces
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Old 11-29-2015, 03:19 AM   #374
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Yes but did Vince or HHH say that in an interview? Nope? Sorry It does not matter if the talent says it. Needs it to come from Vince or HHH.
How dare you question the Almighty Meltzer or the Gospel PWI with your logical skepticism..... If you read something quoted from "an anonymous source" your better believe it's the truth!
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Old 11-29-2015, 10:28 AM   #375
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The group talked at length in Jericho's podcast that Vince wanted the group to be faces and actually thought it would work. That's good enough for me since they'd have no reason to make it up.
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Old 11-29-2015, 11:55 AM   #376
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Yeah, but don't you remember when Daniel Bryan lied about Mania plans to protect Kayfabe and Batista lied about Mania plans because Vince doesn't tell his talents everything? C'mon Vito, get it together.
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Vito is the dirtsheet sheep to the max. Maaan, Vito, you need real facts here. The only thing that counts as a fact is if Vince or HHH states it. Maybe Steph depending on who is doing the interview.
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Old 11-29-2015, 12:45 PM   #378
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lol Dave Meltzer is a constant interview with Steve Austin and Jim Ross on their podcasts, who they make it clear that they respect and actually defer to for information on wrestling.

That's not to say Meltzer isn't full of shit from time to time, but he's a pretty even keel reporter and I don't think either Jim Ross or Austin (MAMMOTHS in the business) would bother with him if he was some punk. Same with Wade Keller.

But Cynick obviously knows more than Ross and Austin. Especially about what Vince is thinking, because 2 men who worked closely with Vince wouldn't know Vince like Cynick.
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Old 11-29-2015, 01:15 PM   #379
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I don't see the issue in HHH beating Sting.

1) Sting wasn't hurt at all by losing to HHH. Sting does have a name value, and the WWE did do a good job building his name prior to Wrestlemania to give him even more credit.

2) Sting was going away for a while after Wrestlemania and HHH wasn't going anywhere so for that reason alone HHH should have won.
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O shit was the Sting/HHH thing in the other thread?

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Vito is the dirtsheet sheep to the max. Maaan, Vito, you need real facts here. The only thing that counts as a fact is if Vince or HHH states it. Maybe Steph depending on who is doing the interview.
Since were on the subject, I personally think 90% of what "dirt sheets" report are bull shit. I use TNA as an example. Meltzer reports back in like July that he received a "memo from a DA executive" saying TNA is getting cancelled in Oct (I don't know how a journalist who does not work for either company would receive such privileged information, but let's say he did) So October rolls around and TNA is still on DA..... then Dixie does an interview saying TNA is moving stations in 2016.... so then the dirt sheets "report" that they WERE going to cancel them in Oct, but they gave them an extension to be on TV.
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Do you? Does that mean you're finally gonna respond to that post of mine you've been avoiding for a month (as I BELIEVE you gave your word you'd be doing in post 293 of the jump the shark thread) or are you just gonna admit you're backed into a corner as far as defending WWE's writing? Or are you just gonna keep ignoring it hoping it will go away and you can keep bullshitting your way into thinking WWE's writing is top notch? I bet you keep going with that last option. Just a hunch.
I actually said in that thread that I thought it was lazy writing, but the issue was the talent screwed it up, so it got to a point where its useless to try to fix it through writing. They just decided to hit the reset button. That doesn't make it good writing, just understandable. And I dont think one angle being terrible means 'everything sucks'.

What I would recommend you do is look up Victor Newman vs Jack Abbott. And tell me there is 100% continuity between them being allies and enemies. The show those characters are on is the #1 daytime drama, and has been for years and years.
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Cornette came up with the Hell in a Cell idea, he was largely responsible for protecting Kane during the first six months of his career. He, Jim Ross and Bruce Pritchard would hang out with Vince at his house and block out the entire show. After leaving the main roster, he went down to OVW, where he helped craft basically anyone that came up from OVW at that point in time until Heyman took over in 2005.

His plans for ROH were basically what Triple H did with NXT, except Sinclair didn't commit to them. What a bad idea, huh?

Cornette and Russo are very different people with very different attitudes to the industry. It's not a case of not fitting the narrative, it's a case of them playing different roles in them.
You're throwing out random things that Cornette apparently did. Do you have sources on this? Please please dont say the sheets or Cornette himself.

Ask Kevin Owens about Cornette as a booker/person in charge. Guys like you like and respect Owens, right?
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Crediting Vince with getting the New Day over is hilarious. It's well documented that he intended for the group to be faces, and he could not understand at all why the group was getting booed to shit for months. He actually thought they were going to win over the crowds and especially the African-American demographic with that shit.

The members themselves acknowledged that Vince never saw them as a heel group. They basically turned themselves heel by realizing their reactions were terrible. At that point they no longer gave a fuck and had really nothing to lose so they decided to just have fun with it and it's worked spectacularly well, to the point where Vince can't go back to the original plan.

New Day has thrived in spite of Vince, not because of him.
Who said 'Vince could not understand why they were getting booed'?

At the end of the day Vince will be proven right. They are 3 black guys, basically playing over the top preachers, talking about positivity. They will be full fledged babyfaces at some point in 2016.

I dont see how you can say they succeeded in spite of Vince. He took three characters that were aimless as singles, and put them together. Vince has said on many occasions that he listens to the crowd. He repackaged New Day, and maybe he did think they would catch on babyfaces right off the bat. They didnt, so he listened to the fans, and turned them heel. Now you can see the fans starting to take to them (as Vince expected to happen) and they will likely go babyface at some point.

What I will say in this case, is the New Day guys took the Unicorn by the horn, and rather than just drowning when the gimmick didnt catch on in the exact way as first laid out, they adapted, and added their own flare. No different than how Rock rolled with the punches when he was getting booed, and created a character that turned into a massive success. But he still needed Vince to buy in to the shift, just like New Day would have has to sell Vince on what they are doing now. Its a joint effort between Vince and the talent.
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Yeah, but don't you remember when Daniel Bryan lied about Mania plans to protect Kayfabe and Batista lied about Mania plans because Vince doesn't tell his talents everything? C'mon Vito, get it together.
So you think Vince lays out every long term plan to all talent. Vince tells guys what they need to know when they need to know it.

Roman Reigns said he wasn't told about Mania booking until the night before.

But in your mind, we just ignore what Roman said regarding how far in advance the talent was filled in with plans because it doesnt fit the narrative.
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lol Dave Meltzer is a constant interview with Steve Austin and Jim Ross on their podcasts, who they make it clear that they respect and actually defer to for information on wrestling.

That's not to say Meltzer isn't full of shit from time to time, but he's a pretty even keel reporter and I don't think either Jim Ross or Austin (MAMMOTHS in the business) would bother with him if he was some punk. Same with Wade Keller.

But Cynick obviously knows more than Ross and Austin. Especially about what Vince is thinking, because 2 men who worked closely with Vince wouldn't know Vince like Cynick.
I have no problem with Dave in terms of historical knowledge. For example, if I wanted when someone in the business dies, I think he's a solid source for bios and stuff like that. Beyond that, Austin and Ross are trying to sell their podcasts to the same people who currently read the sheets, so it makes sense to speak to their fearless leader.

Where I think he's full of shit is his access to inside information. I think (check that, I know with 100% certainty) his info is BS. I believe his whole business is based on selling the idea that WWE is in constant trouble, and are always doing the wrong thing. You gotta pay to read next week's issue to know what mistakes are being made. I cant remember the first issue of the Dirt Sheet I ever read, might have been 98 or 99, but even then he was selling issues in the same manner, and business was great. Then he is able to backtrack on everything by saying WWE is constantly changing plans. Okay!
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I don't see the issue in HHH beating Sting.

1) Sting wasn't hurt at all by losing to HHH. Sting does have a name value, and the WWE did do a good job building his name prior to Wrestlemania to give him even more credit.

2) Sting was going away for a while after Wrestlemania and HHH wasn't going anywhere so for that reason alone HHH should have won.
#2 is the biggest thing to me.

HHH is a weekly TV character. If it was Steve Austin coming back to wrestle, then sure, I would say its fine for HHH to lose. But Sting is not Austin. HHH got the win, but they moved mountains to protect Sting in that match.

The other thing that gets ignored is that from his debut, Sting never really got the type of pop you would expect from a top level star. It was a nice pop, but I remember hearing it, and thinking I expected more.
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The pop for Sting was fine. Hinter is not going to be hurt by a Sting loss and using Sting to sell the Monday Night Wars is a bigger waste of Sting than anything he did in TNA beside the Jeff Hardy incident. Wish Sting would have stayed away from WWE and just retired. The mans reasoning for not signing with WWE years back is exactly why he should have stayed away. WWE has no idea how to use Sting and really never intended on making Sting look like the Icon he is.
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Since were on the subject, I personally think 90% of what "dirt sheets" report are bull shit. I use TNA as an example. Meltzer reports back in like July that he received a "memo from a DA executive" saying TNA is getting cancelled in Oct (I don't know how a journalist who does not work for either company would receive such privileged information, but let's say he did) So October rolls around and TNA is still on DA..... then Dixie does an interview saying TNA is moving stations in 2016.... so then the dirt sheets "report" that they WERE going to cancel them in Oct, but they gave them an extension to be on TV.
I see where you are going with this but this was not really on topic. I was really making fun of CyNick for calling all and any wrestler not named HHH to not be a credible source of information while doing an interview.
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Where I think he's full of shit is his access to inside information. I think (check that, I know with 100% certainty) his info is BS.


You're so full of shit. You're as big or even bigger a phony than most of the dirt sheet reporters.

You know his info is bullshit how exactly?

You completely ignore the times that Meltzer and others have been spot on in their reporting of future plans/outcomes. Instead all you do is focus on the times when they were incorrect in reporting future plans or outcomes and the fact they make money off of their reporting.

Vince and HHH are the only sources that are reliable to you and if dirt sheet reporters don't have access to Vince or HHH, they're full of shit. You never do address the issue of dirt sheet reporters simply not having access to guys like HHH or Vince but instead only have access to others in the company that will anonymously share future plans with them as they're made aware of them.
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Roman Reigns said he wasn't told about Mania booking until the night before.

But in your mind, we just ignore what Roman said regarding how far in advance the talent was filled in with plans because it doesnt fit the narrative.
Yes. I have NO problem believing and understanding that Roman wasn't told of the outcome of a match he was going to be in until the night before. It's completely reasonable, believable and understandable.

Roman isn't on the level of Rock, Batista, Austin, Taker, HHH, Cena, Jericho, Sting, etc. Roman doesn't have the contracts, stroke, experience, drawing power, history, etc. of guys like Rock, Batista, Austin, Taker, Cena, Jericho, etc.

Batista, Rock, Jericho, Taker, HHH, etc., all have the draw, contracts, history, etc., to decide whether or not they want to come back based on who they're going to work with and what the plans for them are. None of them may have the final say or expectations to know specific match outcomes or specific writing/booking plans or details more than a day in advance. It's reasonable to believe that guys like Rock, Batista, Lesnar, Taker, etc. would AT LEAST be told (either before or upon returning) what the overall plans and expectations were for them in terms of who they'll be feuding with, face/heel alignment, etc.
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Its also reasonable to believe that Vince doesn't completely make a decision on some things until last minute.
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Very true. It's also reasonable to believe that Vince & co. often change their minds on their original plans.
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Yes it is. Did Vince ever tell you that in a notarized letter? If not then bullshit. Must have the stamp to prove it too.
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I have no problem with Dave in terms of historical knowledge. For example, if I wanted when someone in the business dies, I think he's a solid source for bios and stuff like that. Beyond that, Austin and Ross are trying to sell their podcasts to the same people who currently read the sheets, so it makes sense to speak to their fearless leader.

Where I think he's full of shit is his access to inside information. I think (check that, I know with 100% certainty) his info is BS. I believe his whole business is based on selling the idea that WWE is in constant trouble, and are always doing the wrong thing. You gotta pay to read next week's issue to know what mistakes are being made. I cant remember the first issue of the Dirt Sheet I ever read, might have been 98 or 99, but even then he was selling issues in the same manner, and business was great. Then he is able to backtrack on everything by saying WWE is constantly changing plans. Okay!
He is very quick to point out when they were doing well and ACTUALLY to put over Vince when ever I've heard the chance. You are simply pushing your narrative.

lol I can't stop arguing with you, you're the cut on the roof of my mouth I can't stop tonguing, you sick bastard.
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So you think Vince lays out every long term plan to all talent. Vince tells guys what they need to know when they need to know it.

Roman Reigns said he wasn't told about Mania booking until the night before.

But in your mind, we just ignore what Roman said regarding how far in advance the talent was filled in with plans because it doesnt fit the narrative.
You're talking about results. I'm not talking results. I'm talking plans. Batista was told a plan. He has gone on record saying he was to come in as the huge babyface to challenge for the title. Daniel Bryan stated through several outlets, including a company produced documentary, that the plan was never to main event and only when the fans threatened to shit on the main event did things change.

To which again I ask why in the world those two would lie? What reason do they have to throw Vince under the bus?
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Yes it is. Did Vince ever tell you that in a notarized letter? If not then bullshit. Must have the stamp to prove it too.
Unfortunately no.

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WWE is at a real crossroads. Allow me to paraphrase Albert Einstein, who said "the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over, and expecting different results". Wrestling historians can argue about when the ‪#‎AttitudeEra‬ in wrestling officially began. But for me, it will always be at a meeting called by Mr McMahon in the Spring of 1997, where he admitted that what had worked for them for so long in the past (I interpreted that to mean one-dimensional characters that tended to be job-related) was no longer working, and that if they were going to survive, the wrestlers themselves were going to have to step up, and help create those dimensions that would establish the emotional bond between the wrestlers and the fans - part of the lifeblood of professional wrestling.

Today's WWE Superstars (I'm including the women here, since the term "Diva" had its time, and that time is done) are at a distinct disadvantage in some ways. They can't flip birds, and use the colorful language. They can't bleed - even when the situation seems ripe for it. Man, Roman Reigns's life would be so much easier if he could survive vicious assaults the way guys in my era did. But all the blood, the language and the violence paled in comparison to the real secret weapon of the Attitude Era; the FREEDOM TO CREATE...THE FREEDOM TO TRY...THE FREEDOM TO FAIL - the idea that going down swinging (I hope I'm not losing you guys in all the non-baseball playing countries) was almost as important as hitting the ball out of the park - as long as you took your best swings. There's a difference between playing to win, and playing not to lose: one breeds confidence, the other breeds fear.It's the difference between cutting the type of promos Stone Cold Steve Austin and Dwayne The Rock Johnson gave, and the cookie-cutter approach all too often employed these days by WWE creative. One style allowed for creativity and emotion. The other calls for memorization and recitation.

I hope I don't sound like I'm picking on WWE. There is a big part of me that loves this company, and always will. Why else would I be up at 4:15 am, writing things that are likely to banish me deeper and deeper into the WWE doghouse? One of my favorite wrestlers proposed a storyline that would allow me a four of five week storyline that would allow me to dig in deep, and swing for the fences - and in the process, maybe advance a few of the super-talented but underutilized athletes on the roster. I would love to do it....but I doubt it's going to happen. After all, I might want to do something crazy like go out there without a script, and try to create some real emotion - in other words, the type of thing that saved WWE in the late 90's.

The talent pool has never been deeper. But the creative flow is stagnant...and it's been stinking for a while. I quoted Einstein to begin this thing. Let me conclude with the immortal words of Owen Heart: "Enough's enough: it's time for a change!"
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It's frustrating. I live 90 minutes from WWE headquarters (less without traffic). They know I've offered to come in, for free, and give them my honest opinions. I have nothing to lose by telling them the truth. I don't work for them. If they don't like what I have to say, I get in my car and drive home. No big deal. But at least they get a different perspective.
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Oh Mick.

I like Mick, I enjoyed his work over the years in WCW, ECW and of course WWE. But the guy is egotistical.

Why would he think WWE would randomly call him for his opinion? They have plenty of ex talent on the payroll who they can bounce creative ideas. Everything about that blurb comes down to "its all about Mick". We're nearing Mania season and Mick has an angle he should be involved him. I don't think he's at a stage where physically he should in a WWE ring. He wants everyone to gather around and find out if he's gong to stop watching (spoiler, he won't), does anyone really care?

On top of that he doesn't listen to what Vince says. Vince specifically said he thinks one of the problems with guys today is they are afraid to fail. The problem is the talent expects everything to be handed to them. He talks about scripts. This may sound mean, but Mick is likely heavily scripted because they don't trust him to stay on point and within time constraints. New Day talks about how they are not scripted and given the green light to do their own promos. But not everyone is that good, so the guys who are not, are heavily scripted. I believe it was Triple H who said some guys prefer it that way. That shouldn't be an indictment on WWE creative.

Mick talks about using blood to get Roman over. Sure, that would be easier. But I don't think Toys R Us and Kay Jewellers would appreciate being associated with a form of entertainment where grown men mutilate their bodies and bleed in front of little kids in the first row. The product is more mature now, more family friendly. Maybe because Mick needed all those gimmicks as a crutch to get over, he can't fathom how it can be done without it.

At the end of the day Mick is just trying to get more eyeballs on his blog, which is smart. He'll be watching next week, the week after, the month after, and the year after that. Bank on it.
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