The thread where we get CyNick to defend maligned storylines, and tell us how we don't understand...

[The CyNick]

Originally Posted by KIRA I'm gonna do it again,whatever"holes" Cesaro has Roman has a lot more. You said Roman wrestles like a main eventer I just took that to mean "as basic as possible (and he doesn't even do that all that well) Cesaro at least has the wrestling part down and unlike Roman he has gotten over just on that.

When you hear main event talent talk about putting together a match, they say you only need a few moves that people can identify, and you need a sequence of those moves that can be done with fire during a comeback.

Up until the last couple months, I don't think Cesaro had the right mix of moves to create a proper sequence to finish a match. He also was weak in terms of selling and playing babyface in peril. I think he's gotten better at it, and that's why you saw him getting more focus. But he got hurt so we're back to square one.

So for me the booking made sense, because you want to showcase his power in the ring to help him stand out. But at the same time if you push him hard before he's ready he'll fail

Difference to me with Roman is he has the in ring part of his game more polished. He could still add a move or two, but generally I feel like he's there. His issue is the long promo that top babyfaces traditionally are expected to do. He needs to get comfortable with that aspect or he will ultimately fall as a top face. Cesaro is even further behind Roman in terms of just flat out talking, nevermind cutting a 15 minute promo. Which is ANOTHER strike against Cesaro.

Cesaro reminds me a lot of Davey Boy Smith.

[KIRA]

Originally Posted by The CyNick When you hear main event talent talk about putting together a match, they say you only need a few moves that people can identify, and you need a sequence of those moves that can be done with fire during a comeback. Up until the last couple months, I don't think Cesaro had the right mix of moves to create a proper sequence to finish a match. He also was weak in terms of selling and playing babyface in peril. I think he's gotten better at it, and that's why you saw him getting more focus. But he got hurt so we're back to square one. So for me the booking made sense, because you want to showcase his power in the ring to help him stand out. But at the same time if you push him hard before he's ready he'll fail Difference to me with Roman is he has the in ring part of his game more polished. He could still add a move or two, but generally I feel like he's there. His issue is the long promo that top babyfaces traditionally are expected to do. He needs to get comfortable with that aspect or he will ultimately fall as a top face. Cesaro is even further behind Roman in terms of just flat out talking, nevermind cutting a 15 minute promo. Which is ANOTHER strike against Cesaro. Cesaro reminds me a lot of Davey Boy Smith.

Oh and you never answered my R-truth question

as for Cesaro being less polished I'm gonna have to disagree its easy to be polished when there is nothing complicated about your in-ring game as for main-eventers walking through their matches sure they keep it simple but they have more in them Romans moveset isn't kept simple IT IS simple.

Also Dean should totally be in Roman's place if Ambrose was doing this storyline they are pushing with Reigns it would look so much better.

[Maluco]

Roman Reigns is getting his push because he looks good, nothing more, nothing less. We can all tall about strength and weaknesses, but they see a good looking guy who can promote the company in the media and be the face that people think of when they think of WWE. It's nothing to do with his strength or weaknesses as a wrestler or anything else.

I don't care if he is on top or whoever else is on top, I just want interesting stories and feuds.

[Maluco]

Also Sheamus is in a different league to Reigns in the ring. That is not Sheamus problem at all, he can go.

[KIRA]

Yep Vince can prattle on about dedication to what they do and blah blah but at the end of it all Vince doesn't give a shit about being awesome in the ring and on the mic and this is all you've wanted to do(Ambrose) he wants that former football guy/pro bodybuilder.

[#1-norm-fan]

Originally Posted by Maluco Roman Reigns is getting his push because he looks good, nothing more, nothing less. We can all tall about strength and weaknesses, but they see a good looking guy who can promote the company in the media and be the face that people think of when they think of WWE. It's nothing to do with his strength or weaknesses as a wrestler or anything else. I don't care if he is on top or whoever else is on top, I just want interesting stories and feuds.

Exactly this. Reigns looks like a guy who can make the company look good to a mainstream audience through talk show appearances and stuff as it's poster child. Unfortunately, that also requires a charisma, presence and likability to the common folk that he just doesn't have. That's why Cena was the perfect choice. He's got all the attributes that matter for a face of the company. It's just unfortunate that he's been booked very blandly pretty much his entire run so when he goes out and looks good in a public appearance to get eyes on the product, there's nothing there to keep eyes on it.

[Big Vic]

Originally Posted by The CyNick When you hear main event talent talk about putting together a match, they say you only need a few moves that people can identify, and you need a sequence of those moves that can be done with fire during a comeback. Up until the last couple months, I don't think Cesaro had the right mix of moves to create a proper sequence to finish a match. He also was weak in terms of selling and playing babyface in peril. I think he's gotten better at it, and that's why you saw him getting more focus. But he got hurt so we're back to square one. So for me the booking made sense, because you want to showcase his power in the ring to help him stand out. But at the same time if you push him hard before he's ready he'll fail Difference to me with Roman is he has the in ring part of his game more polished. He could still add a move or two, but generally I feel like he's there. His issue is the long promo that top babyfaces traditionally are expected to do. He needs to get comfortable with that aspect or he will ultimately fall as a top face. Cesaro is even further behind Roman in terms of just flat out talking, nevermind cutting a 15 minute promo. Which is ANOTHER strike against Cesaro. Cesaro reminds me a lot of Davey Boy Smith.

You're right Roman Reigns is a much better wrestler than Cesaro.

[KIRA]

Originally Posted by Big Vic You're right Roman Reigns is a much better wrestler than Sheamus.

(Sarcasm noted) A podcast I listened to recently brought up the fact that Sheamus actually is a good wrestler.

[Savio]

Originally Posted by Big Vic You're right Roman Reigns is a much better wrestler than Sheamus.

Totally meant Cesaro.... dunno why i typed Sheamus