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Old 12-10-2015, 07:01 PM   #1
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I don't think Roman is the problem. I think he's the symptom. The problem is booking myopia and ignorance to what the fans are asking for.

I don't mean the smart marks. I mean, for example, you could have ended the Rusev-Swagger feud with two stars being made: the Monster Rusev and the All American babyface Swagger. He was actually over, but somehow, the myopic booking was oblivious to Swagger getting traction with fans, or that a guy draped in the flag WOULD get traction with fans.

I am not even saying Swagger should be feuding with Sheamus right now. Just that they could have done something off of the reactions he got to see if it stuck. If it didn't, fine. If it did, amazing, you now have a piece of your show written for you.
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Old 12-10-2015, 08:11 PM   #2
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I mean, for example, you could have ended the Rusev-Swagger feud with two stars being made: the Monster Rusev and the All American babyface Swagger. He was actually over, but somehow, the myopic booking was oblivious to Swagger getting traction with fans, or that a guy draped in the flag WOULD get traction with fans.
It's kind of odd that they don't see that the flag-draped hero gimmick still works today. It just works a lot better as a chewable pill than it does as a suppository. If you put a guy out there in the red, white, and blue and just let the fans warm up to him he'll take off. (Hell Swagger took off in that role when he was supposed to be a damn heel.)
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Old 12-10-2015, 09:21 PM   #3
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Actually this conference call made me laugh because it was done with the "wrestling media". I thought about how many times the people on this forum tried to tell me that its impossible to get anything honest out of HHH or Vince. This is a vindication in regards to how unprofessional the dirt sheet writers are, and how its clear it is possible to get information out of the upper echelon of the company. You just have to ask for it.

As for the "fix" comment, I dont think I ever once said the product is perfect. I've always maintained there are things that can be improved. Obviously they want to bring the ratings back up, and I think Hunter is being a stand up guy not blaming it all on injuries. But make no mistake, when the last two guys you built up for Mania (Daniel and Seth) go down with major injuries, it hurts the long term storylines they were trying to tell. And that's without getting into Cena dropping off the face of the Universe, as well as untimely injuries to guys like Orton and Cesaro.
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Old 12-10-2015, 09:39 PM   #4
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Actually this conference call made me laugh because it was done with the "wrestling media". I thought about how many times the people on this forum tried to tell me that its impossible to get anything honest out of HHH or Vince. This is a vindication in regards to how unprofessional the dirt sheet writers are, and how its clear it is possible to get information out of the upper echelon of the company. You just have to ask for it.

As for the "fix" comment, I dont think I ever once said the product is perfect. I've always maintained there are things that can be improved. Obviously they want to bring the ratings back up, and I think Hunter is being a stand up guy not blaming it all on injuries. But make no mistake, when the last two guys you built up for Mania (Daniel and Seth) go down with major injuries, it hurts the long term storylines they were trying to tell. And that's without getting into Cena dropping off the face of the Universe, as well as untimely injuries to guys like Orton and Cesaro.
but you're saying that they don't go to him. They've gone to him. So once again you speak nonsense as per usual because you don't understand the concept of grey areas.
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Old 12-11-2015, 12:10 AM   #5
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Actually this conference call made me laugh because it was done with the "wrestling media". I thought about how many times the people on this forum tried to tell me that its impossible to get anything honest out of HHH or Vince. This is a vindication in regards to how unprofessional the dirt sheet writers are, and how its clear it is possible to get information out of the upper echelon of the company. You just have to ask for it.
I still didn't hear HHH or Vince give away any future spoilers or actual future plans. Sounds like they didn't actually give out any information aside from acknowledging there is a problem and they're working on solving it.

Hmmm... sounds just like more of the same dirt sheet rumors to me that you so heavily criticized as bullshit earlier today. Oh wait, now it's news because it's coming from HHH.

You really are a joke aren't you?
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He also didn't say anything other than general feelings. Nothing specific, as it should be. As the coo of the company, full disclosure shouldn't be expected which is why news sources wouldn't find much interviewing him
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Obviously they won't give away future plans in terms of creative. But an example of what I'm taking about was when Austin asked McMahon about Cesaro. Vince gave an insightful answer of what he thinks about him. I prefer that to the speculation the sheetz provide about why certain guys are not at the top of the card.

And on top of that the sheetz just pull stuff out of their collective asses. For example the piece about "some changes to Smackdown" without saying what those changes would be. Or "Brock v Owens is not in the table" but not following up with what is in the plans. It just amazes me that people see these bottom feeders are credible sources.
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I don't think Roman is the problem. I think he's the symptom. The problem is booking myopia and ignorance to what the fans are asking for.

I don't mean the smart marks. I mean, for example, you could have ended the Rusev-Swagger feud with two stars being made: the Monster Rusev and the All American babyface Swagger. He was actually over, but somehow, the myopic booking was oblivious to Swagger getting traction with fans, or that a guy draped in the flag WOULD get traction with fans.

I am not even saying Swagger should be feuding with Sheamus right now. Just that they could have done something off of the reactions he got to see if it stuck. If it didn't, fine. If it did, amazing, you now have a piece of your show written for you.
The sad thing is, after all of that, Rusev is a fucking nobody right now.

"We The People" is still over and gets reactions, but then, so does "Woo Woo Woo"...
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