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Old 12-27-2015, 05:03 PM   #1
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She totally got captured at one point!

And every other time she did something heroic... Err.. The force did it.
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Old 12-27-2015, 05:13 PM   #2
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But it's possible she had some training at a young age and her memory was wiped or she had just forgotten since it was so long ago.

Then all of this starts happening it causes "muscle memory" which is why she able to do these things.
I can accept the 'amnesiac badass' archetype, it's been done may times before. The thing is, you can't wait til the middle of the movie to play with that. You have to pepper in subtle clues from the start. Something as simple as her sensing those bandits were about to steal the droid. It could be waved off on first viewing as her just having good awareness, and on second viewing it becomes a brilliant call-forward.

They didn't do this, which means a) Her character traits were written as they went along or b) She was always that badass, and they really didn't know how to express that without her coming off OP. But sure, I can buy her being trained and not knowing it. She could have even been one of Luke's first students.

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And every other time she did something heroic... Err.. The force did it.
This reminds me: Han telling Finn that the Force isn't some cure-all was brilliant.
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Old 12-27-2015, 05:17 PM   #3
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Luke brings down the Death Star using the force his first day and he was a reluctant force believer.

Once Rey has her vision the force awakens in her and she goes with it. It's not as far off as you make it seem. The movie makes a point the force is calling out to her more than any other character we have seen.

It's called the force "awakens" for a reason. It's not called Star Wars: People who have th force
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Old 12-27-2015, 05:28 PM   #4
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Rey was written as completely infallible despite being untrained. They overtly made the point that this was a woman doing it so thats the choice they deliberately made, she's a Chipette. Skimming that article, they draw comparisons to male characters, but those characters are trained elites. She ends up slightly unrelatable as a result, but with a good performance and good dialogue, Rey ultimately overcomes it
You see, perfectly reasonable point. Rey is a good character, but trying to hand wave clearly apt descriptions of her character is ridiculous.

We're not gonna pretend 'Mary Sue' is some new, ambiguous term to protect Rey the character.

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Luke brings down the Death Star using the force his first day and he was a reluctant force believer.
In the first Star Wars movie, before the midichlorian silliness, The Force was analogous to faith. You in fact can't say for sure if he used the Force or if he made the luckiest shot ever. Nowhere else in Star Wars was the Force used to make yourself better at shooting things. That was the brilliance of that scene; you can either take from it that Luke finally began to believe in himself and something bigger than him, or sure the Force totally saved the day. And even then Han had to save his six.

That is not the same as Rey's exploits. If she was at the end of A New Hope they'd just give all the medals to her. If she was on Dogabah she'd lift the X-Wing first try. She's an MVP. A lucky shot in a wombat sized vent would be the least of her highlights.

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The movie makes a point the force is calling out to her more than any other character we have seen.
That's all well and good, but the execution leaves us with an OP character who could be put in any situation and come out on top. If you wanna argue that she's more attuned to the Force than Luke or ANAKIN, be my guest.
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Old 12-27-2015, 05:59 PM   #5
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Luke brings down the Death Star using the force his first day and he was a reluctant force believer.

Once Rey has her vision the force awakens in her and she goes with it. It's not as far off as you make it seem. The movie makes a point the force is calling out to her more than any other character we have seen.

It's called the force "awakens" for a reason. It's not called Star Wars: People who have th force
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