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Old 02-18-2016, 11:39 AM   #881
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Conducted a small experiment in public where I gauge the power of the current WWE to the power of WCW's run of the nWo/WWF Attitude Era. Wearing my nWo shirt or The Rock's shirt will garner responses of positivity and happy memories. Going to the same locations and interacting with the same people in a Dean Ambrose shirt alludes to no reaction at all or the typical "what is that shirt all about? Who is it?".


In conclusion, the nWo is 4 life and the Attitude Era is one of the best things to happen in professional wrestling. Suck it, smell it, drink it, it's True, it's Damn True. Wellllllllll, well it's the Big Show(2000)
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Old 02-18-2016, 11:45 AM   #882
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Saw someone with an nWo wolfpac t-shirt. know nothing else about him but he seemed like a cool guy

Lost all respect for matt striker when he said nWo wolfpac was the uncool version of the nWo. Nash and Hall are not uncool.
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Old 02-18-2016, 11:48 AM   #883
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Was he saying that in character or on some podcast no one listens to?
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Old 02-18-2016, 11:50 AM   #884
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I watched it on the WWE network when they gave us a free week about 2 years ago forgot what the video was called.
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Old 02-18-2016, 04:58 PM   #885
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According to the Observer, this week's RAW managed to be the 2nd lowest in the last 18 years in terms of overall viewers when not counting football or holiday weeks.

Missed out on being the new record by around 90,000 viewers.

In terms of historical stuff, same show last year did around 500k more for viewers. Lowest hour of that show was still around 200k more than the best hour this week.
To me it's not great journalism to just talk about the year over year viewers. When the show is #1 it tells you people are just watching cable less.

This is the thing that annoys me about this talk. If WWE is thought to be struggling, then almost every show on cable must be struggling creatively as well.
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Old 02-18-2016, 05:00 PM   #886
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A lot of people here said they stopped watching, myself included.
Yeah and most of those people who claimed to stop watching still know how long the last Ziggler-Owens match was.

I think most people who claim they stopped watching, are actually still watching at least part of the show.

And even if they did stop watching, the total audience continues to grow across the various platforms. It probably just says WWE past those people by, rather than being failures creatively.
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Old 02-18-2016, 05:01 PM   #887
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We are IWC darlings who are irrelevant!
If WWE booked to appease the people on sites like this, they would be out of business in 18 months.
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Old 02-18-2016, 05:05 PM   #888
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Old 02-18-2016, 05:05 PM   #889
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Old 02-18-2016, 08:57 PM   #890
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And even if they did stop watching, the total audience continues to grow across the various platforms. It probably just says WWE past those people by, rather than being failures creatively.
On what platforms is it growing?
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Old 02-18-2016, 09:00 PM   #891
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On what platforms is it growing?
Well let's be clear, TV wise, even though RAWs ratings are down, it's still #1 on cable and tv rights fees continue to climb year after year. That's the whole point of having TV, so there's growth there.

You Tube channel is massive, one of the biggest chanels in sports.

Network continues to grow year after year.

I could go on
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Old 02-18-2016, 09:02 PM   #892
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You must have missed the walking dead debate. Quite possibly my favorite exchange ever.

What's it like to be such a follower? And so enamored with someone else?
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Old 02-18-2016, 09:16 PM   #893
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Well let's be clear, TV wise, even though RAWs ratings are down, it's still #1 on cable and tv rights fees continue to climb year after year. That's the whole point of having TV, so there's growth there.

You Tube channel is massive, one of the biggest chanels in sports.

Network continues to grow year after year.

I could go on
As far as TV goes, lower ratings mean less money when it comes time to renegotiate. While ratings across the board are down due to too many channels, Raw's ratings should be a concern before they end up on Spike TV again
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Old 02-18-2016, 09:40 PM   #894
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You must have missed the walking dead debate. Quite possibly my favorite exchange ever.
You mean the one that started with me showing how there is a popular TV show whose ratings have gone up for the past 5 years, thus making the "TV is dow across the board" excuse quite lame? And then you tried to use only season premieres to prove me wrong hoping everyone else was as braindead as you and would fall for it? And then it ended like this...?

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Walking Dead's ratings have gone up every year over the past 5 seasons despite "TV ratings being down across the board".
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Ah, I see, you wanted to have the debate at the END of Season 5.

If you had said every season was up at THAT point, and I disputed you, you would be right (YAY!!!!)...
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This is why I said to get someone to read the posts to you, Corky.
That debate? You sure you wanna keep drawing attention to that whole debacle, buddy? lol

If only everyone else was as blissfully ignorant as you, you might not come off as such a retard to every other human being here.
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Old 02-18-2016, 09:43 PM   #895
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You must have missed the walking dead debate. Quite possibly my favorite exchange ever.

What's it like to be such a follower? And so enamored with someone else?
It's pretty alright.
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Old 02-19-2016, 12:37 AM   #896
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the total audience continues to grow across the various platforms.
That's a stupid argument. For all you or WWE knows, a large % of the same people who are turning into RAW on cable (and only catching bits and pieces) are watching it again on Youtube to see stuff they missed or enjoyed. Guess what? There's no way to know if the people that are watching on other platforms are separate from the folks watching on cable. You don't know and neither does WWE, because WWE have no way of accurately tracking with specificity if WWE is getting new unique viewers that differ between RAW on cable, Hulu, Youtube, etc.

In addition, if you knew how little revenue Youtube channels or Hulu replays actually generate, you'd know that the value of a Youtube channel, even one as large as WWE's, or Hulu replays, are jokes and miniscule in comparison to what they make from TV licensing, etc.
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Old 02-19-2016, 06:23 PM   #898
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Honestly, who gives a fuck if this thread keeps going? Don't come in here if you don't want to see CyNick get owned.
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Well let's be clear, TV wise, even though RAWs ratings are down, it's still #1 on cable and tv rights fees continue to climb year after year. That's the whole point of having TV, so there's growth there.
Financially they are growing maybe, but not audience wise.

I dont see the WWE network reaching 2 million subscribers by the end of the year, it seems like it might be topping off.
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Old 02-21-2016, 04:54 PM   #907
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As far as TV goes, lower ratings mean less money when it comes time to renegotiate. While ratings across the board are down due to too many channels, Raw's ratings should be a concern before they end up on Spike TV again
Ratings have declined year over year and rights fees are up.

WWE drives the key demos better than just about every show on cable and does every week 52 weeks of the year, not just 10-20. Lots of cable channels want that programming, so fees should continue to rise.
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Old 02-21-2016, 04:56 PM   #908
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You mean the one that started with me showing how there is a popular TV show whose ratings have gone up for the past 5 years, thus making the "TV is dow across the board" excuse quite lame? And then you tried to use only season premieres to prove me wrong hoping everyone else was as braindead as you and would fall for it? And then it ended like this...?







That debate? You sure you wanna keep drawing attention to that whole debacle, buddy? lol

If only everyone else was as blissfully ignorant as you, you might not come off as such a retard to every other human being here.
You still don't get it eh? Sad.
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Old 02-21-2016, 04:59 PM   #909
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That's a stupid argument. For all you or WWE knows, a large % of the same people who are turning into RAW on cable (and only catching bits and pieces) are watching it again on Youtube to see stuff they missed or enjoyed. Guess what? There's no way to know if the people that are watching on other platforms are separate from the folks watching on cable. You don't know and neither does WWE, because WWE have no way of accurately tracking with specificity if WWE is getting new unique viewers that differ between RAW on cable, Hulu, Youtube, etc.

In addition, if you knew how little revenue Youtube channels or Hulu replays actually generate, you'd know that the value of a Youtube channel, even one as large as WWE's, or Hulu replays, are jokes and miniscule in comparison to what they make from TV licensing, etc.
Haha.

Yeah no monetizing of channels like you tube will ever happen. Best to ignore its potential.
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Old 02-21-2016, 05:01 PM   #910
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Financially they are growing maybe, but not audience wise.

I dont see the WWE network reaching 2 million subscribers by the end of the year, it seems like it might be topping off.
2 million is a crazy number. I would expect them to flatten out over the next few months. It's already bringing in far more money than the ppv model was. The growth opportunity is when they get more subs from Asia. That will take time.
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Old 02-21-2016, 08:57 PM   #911
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Still being willingly blind to your own ignorance despite every other human being seeing how dimwitted you are, huh? Your desperate WWE apologist shtick is making more and more sense.

2+2=4

CyNick: "No, it's not. You don't get it. Sad"

Good job. I'm sure you're happy with that response. I guess that's all that matters.
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Old 02-21-2016, 09:00 PM   #912
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Also, I'd like to point out that ron the dial is adding to the ratings of this thread by still watching. He is a sheep. An Afif sheep.
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why are we still acting like CyNick is a real person?
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He's still real to me dammit!
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I choose to believe CyNick is a real person. And after every post he kicks back, puts his feet on his computer desk as says "NOW I got 'em!" while everyone else says "What the shit...?"

Because that's a more hilarious thought than him just being a generic internet troll.
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Well poe's law says it all. if someone is that dedicated to an "act" the least we can do is run with it. I mean he seems to run off of a general "McMahonism" template. But it can be pretty funny.

He was similar in his old run on the boards about 13 years ago. Just instead he was trying to point out all of the flaws in the product. It was kind of cool though because he brought a bunch of new guys to the board.

He's a nice guy I think, but I will cuss him out and neg rep him if I'm in a bad mood because he can be annoying. It's a part of the CyNick dance.
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I like the mentality of my detractors. His opinion is different than mine, therefore he must be a gimmick.

Rather than focus on the fact I create discussion and present my opinions is a logical manner. The other side relies on insults and swears when they have no logical response. But I'm the bad guy. And have been for years, even though if I had the same opinion I had 13 years ago, I would fit in with the herd today.

It's like being a babyface in a heel territory. You're really on the side of right, but it's a villianess land, so you come off as evil. Don't worry though, I have big enough shoulders to bear the cross.
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