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Old 05-01-2016, 11:01 PM   #561
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Old 05-01-2016, 11:02 PM   #562
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Old 05-01-2016, 11:03 PM   #563
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I wish Roman could get more stamina. Like the spots in the match were well planned and did well, but Romans little rest in between them just ruin any flow a match has.

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Old 05-01-2016, 11:04 PM   #565
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Old 05-01-2016, 11:05 PM   #566
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Old 05-01-2016, 11:06 PM   #568
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Good match to finish, but I did feel like it highlighted how far behind guys like AJ, big Roman is in the ring. He doesn't really have any stand out qualities. No variation in his moveset, and it seems like people just bump round him and have to work extra hard to cover for him.
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Old 05-01-2016, 11:09 PM   #570
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Old 05-01-2016, 11:12 PM   #571
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Good match to finish, but I did feel like it highlighted how far behind guys like AJ, big Roman is in the ring. He doesn't really have any stand out qualities. No variation in his moveset, and it seems like people just bump round him and have to work extra hard to cover for him.
Yeah, that match was really the AJ Styles show. I saw about 15-16 minutes of it and aside from the McMahon involvement it was a very good storyline match. Love AJ's fucking spots so much, he is just so god damned good. I've accepted that Reigns is going to get force fed and there's not much that can be done, Vince is only creative when his back is against the wall, so we're stuck with this. But AJ Styles getting a couple of main events to carry Reigns sounds good to me.
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Old 05-01-2016, 11:12 PM   #572
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Old 05-01-2016, 11:12 PM   #573
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Any of the rumored or speculated stuff about the WWE title match would have been better than what they did for the actual finish tonight, especially in regards to setting up the rematch.


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Good match to finish, but I did feel like it highlighted how far behind guys like AJ, big Roman is in the ring. He doesn't really have any stand out qualities. No variation in his moveset, and it seems like people just bump round him and have to work extra hard to cover for him.
Biggest problem is usually the WWE champ ends up being someone who can both carry the company and matches but Reigns can't do either right now. They rushed his star development and its been showing for a while.
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Old 05-01-2016, 11:14 PM   #574
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Yeah lol it doesn't make any sense. Such a definitive finish. But I guess "kayfabe wise" AJ beat Roman twice in the match.
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Old 05-01-2016, 11:18 PM   #575
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Old 05-01-2016, 11:20 PM   #576
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Also, the WWE's seems really stymied in how to book a modern day baby face. What I DID like about Roman tonight was he sold for AJ, even after the match. He didn't just forget about his knee, and a lot of the stuff he did looked good.

But, you take all the possible equity he could have earned and you sort of throw it away with the OVERCOME THE ODDS finish. You know what would make him infinitely more interesting even as a baby face? If he cheated to win because AJ was pushing him to the limits (it was no holds barred so that would even make more sense because he wouldn't have broken any rules). Like if he pulled the tights, or jabbed AJ in the knee with a chair and rolled him up in a small package, and explained that he was desperate because AJ is a badass and Roman needs to keep being "THE GUY" (for fuck sake)

I would surmise that the vocal haters could relate to that a bit more then BAH GAWD AFTER A HELL OF A MATCH ROMAN COMES BACK AND WINS WITH THE EXACT SAME MOVE HE ALWAYS COMES BACK AND WINS WITH HE IS THE GUY (NOT A GOOD GUY AND NOT A BAD GUY FYI)
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Old 05-01-2016, 11:21 PM   #577
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Old 05-01-2016, 11:21 PM   #578
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Let's give WWE some credit here... They treated AJ way better in that match then I expected.

He has only been in the company since January, he lost clean to Jericho at Mania and had to reboot his momentum the night after, yet he had a toe to toe match with Roman tonight. People are throwing a fit about how many finishers Roman took, and Styles going down to one spear, but come on. Roman is the fucking poster boy. It was a great match, and if they are willing to keep Roman a "tweener" in the sense that he doesn't give a shit about the crowd, I'm okay with him being overpowered.

Cena was obnoxious because he was an overpowered baby face who would always overcome the odds. A heel or a tweener can be overpowered.
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Old 05-01-2016, 11:22 PM   #579
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I liked the ppv and am fine with the ending. AJ looks like a million bucks and he already gets another main-event ppv match against Roman. Works for me.
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I agree but it's kind of sad though. Most guys like Styles would have had to have been jobbed out to almost everyone before being given half a chance.

Only 2 bad things about that match were the McMahons deciding that they are the main event and them not letting Roman show any character development in the finish. Other than that, (and honestly being desensitized to this product those 2 things aren't as huge a deterrent as they should be) it was well worked and AJ got some nice shine throughout.
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I thought AJ vs Roman was a good match. Roman looked a little weak in the beginning when AJ actually decided to try to put on a wrestling match...and the commentators completely, COMPLETELY missed the story/point of the match.

AJ was getting to the champion. AJ was exploiting the champion's weaknesses. AJ was hurting "The Guy." Reigns was visibly selling his frustration the entire match, and the commentators completely ignored it. AJ had the champion dead to rights, won the match twice technically, and not one mention. Reigns was selling as though he was going to snap out of frustration...not one mention. Also no one has mentioned the the phenomenal forearm is one-upsmanship of the superman punch

Cole then completely turned on AJ, as if Styles were the heel, when Anderson and Gallows came out, and again, failed to pick up on the story point that AJ never saw them, and that maybe he wouldn't want to win like that.

Great match completely destroyed by the commentators, and the count out/DQ nonsense. I was thinking it might work until I realized it was just a vehicle to advance the Shane vs. Stephanie storyline, and maybe set up a feud with the Usos/Roman and the Bullet Club.

I can't see any point, if they continue he feud past the next pay per view, that AJ won't lose next time. There's still a lot of time to kill, and AJ holding the title for a month, or longer as they push forward with the Bullet Club-like stable.

Dunno, typical WWE clusterfuck.
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Didn't see the rest of the show. Was at a bbq and also the raptors game 7 in 4th quarter at the start of the main event.

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I thought AJ vs Roman was a good match. Roman looked a little weak in the beginning when AJ actually decided to try to put on a wrestling match...and the commentators completely, COMPLETELY missed the story/point of the match.

AJ was getting to the champion. AJ was exploiting the champion's weaknesses. AJ was hurting "The Guy." Reigns was visibly selling his frustration the entire match, and the commentators completely ignored it. AJ had the champion dead to rights, won the match twice technically, and not one mention. Reigns was selling as though he was going to snap out of frustration...not one mention. Also no one has mentioned the the phenomenal forearm is one-upsmanship of the superman punch

Cole then completely turned on AJ, as if Styles were the heel, when Anderson and Gallows came out, and again, failed to pick up on the story point that AJ never saw them, and that maybe he wouldn't want to win like that.

Great match completely destroyed by the commentators, and the count out/DQ nonsense. I was thinking it might work until I realized it was just a vehicle to advance the Shane vs. Stephanie storyline, and maybe set up a feud with the Usos/Roman and the Bullet Club.

I can't see any point, if they continue he feud past the next pay per view, that AJ won't lose next time. There's still a lot of time to kill, and AJ holding the title for a month, or longer as they push forward with the Bullet Club-like stable.

Dunno, typical WWE clusterfuck.
Definitely good points about the inept commentary completely failing to tell a story. I thought Roman did a way better job in that match than given credit for, but AJ and Roman were playing chess and the commentating team (this including Vince and Dunn barking into the headsets) are playing checkers.
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Old 05-01-2016, 11:38 PM   #585
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Solid show. Didn't catch the pre show or tag match but I guess Enzo got hurt. Sucks as I thought him and Cass were the only good call ups. Guess there is going to be a 4 way for the IC title and I like that. Ambrose/Jericho was alright. The main event was a good match. Typical Roman match though, AJ put on a show and Roman comes back to win with a spear. AJ still comes out looking strong with the 2 wins and might be pushed to accept Anderson and Gallows help.
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Old 05-02-2016, 12:21 AM   #587
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Concerned for him. Hopefully it's a minor concussion and he can have a speedy recovery.
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Old 05-02-2016, 12:40 AM   #588
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Seriously, I feel like this game should be modded with Roman as the Final Boss.
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Old 05-02-2016, 12:49 AM   #589
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Final boss? That means you'd have a chance against Roman, more likely after you win Roman spears you and that's it.
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I'm curious to see who was going to be booked to win the Enzo match prior to the injury....normally I'd say we'd see a rematch tomorrow night, but I doubt Enzo will be cleared for at least another week....
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fun live show. steph got crazy heat. that ryback moment above got me most heated. the first end/restart of the main event was wild. everybody was pisssssed about that count out. little kid maybe 8 years old next to us was like "roman reigns can go to hell!" funny.
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Really good show by WWE. I'd say MOTN ... gosh tough call....

Owens/Zayn probably but honestly every match was really good.
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Reigns can fuck off, kicking out all those 'finishers'. Complete bullshit.

Glad Enzo is ok, looked really nasty and my thoughts instantly went back to when Rey Mysterio killed that guy recently, scary.
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Overall I really liked the show.

* Dolph vs. Corbin really didn't need to be on the PPV. Giving Corbin the red lights make me think the company just want of us to think of him as the new Kane. Gives him a "New Era Monster" kind of feeling. Dolph winning is fine, because he's a face and he needs to be able to pull rabbits out of hats, and it exploited the weaknesses of the Corbin character -- his inexperience and arrogance. I wouldn't mind seeing them thrown into the IC Title program and them make it an Elimination Chamber at Extreme Rules or something.

* Kalisto vs. Ryback was actually really good. One of the best Ryback matches I've seen, and he worked really hard to stand out. He still looks like he's trying to be good though, which is awkward and weird. I'm curious to see where Kalisto goes next, because it could really be anywhere. Another US Title run for Rusev? Or do they just skip right ahead to Corbin?

* Poor Enzo. That spot looked like it fucking sucked. I'm glad the dude's okay, and in a weird sort of way, there could be a silver lining here. Enzo's more lovable now and has a comeback story. The Vaudevillains should be made #1 Contenders by default and brag about what they did to Enzo. Have them beat The New Day, since ND can go beyond the belts now, and Enzo & Cass can return and confront them in New Jersey.

* Kevin Owens was a star tonight. Great stuff all around from him. He reminded me of Rock circa 98 here. He's almost too good for the IC Title right now, so I was disappointed to see him declare his intent for it. Sami Zayn attacking him during commentary would have been a great way to keep that program spinning, and I could have just imagined the pop if Cesaro had won the title on top of that. Oh well, the story here is something and I can understand them wanting to keep it on The Miz for a bit longer. Fatal 4-Way at Extreme Rules probably -- Cesaro works best when he has lots of people to uppercut, but I imagine either Owens or Zayn walking away with the belt.

* Ambrose vs. Jericho was fine. I really liked the finish. Got no clue where they go with Jericho now. He probably keeps going with Ambrose but I feel that's sort of wheel-spinning at this point. Actually, Kalisto vs. Jericho would be quite good.

* I didn't expect the Montreal Screwjob finish. A good way to protect Natalya and keep the belt on Charlotte. I was ready for a clean win, but Nattie's chase has been surprisingly good and I'm sure it's good for morale. They needed an angle to keep her going -- this sort of schmozz will draw the average fan into what they're doing. I wish we got more Becky and Sasha in the meantime though.

* The crowd really didn't give a shit about the Shane/Stephanie outcome, did they? Everyone played their parts well enough here. This was fine.

* AJ Styles belongs in the main event. He was phenomenal here. That forearm to Reigns from the barricade was fucking sick. By the end of the match, I was really invested in Styles winning, which is a good sign for the story they told here. The technical wins for Styles helped him out more than they hurt, I feel. Reigns is going to get so much better working with Styles. Still shouldn't be "The Guy," but whatever. There are few people that can drag this shit out with Reigns.
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The show felt long enough, but I really wish they could have gotten Becky vs. Emma on there. It wouldn't have changed the world or anything, but it would have been a nice solid win for a babyface lady on the roster with some semblance of story behind it.
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