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Old 05-23-2016, 12:01 AM   #481
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In less than 5 minutes, Reigns:

-Got the shit beaten out of him by Gallows and Anderson
-Takes Gallows and Anderson's finisher
-Takes a Styles Clash
-Gets hit with about 10 vicious chair shots
-Takes a Styles Clash on a chair

Only to constantly kick out. Then magically recover, hit one Spear, and win.

Like...come on.
Exactly, I'm fine with Roman wining as well but that finish was just anticlimactic in my opinion. The match was great and Roman has looked the best he ever has in this feud and hopefully working with a similar guy in Rollins will continue that.Not sure where they go with AJ now.
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I got every match right, except for the Tag Team Title Match right, of course missed a few moves and who takes Pins, but still a good showing.
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Old 05-23-2016, 12:27 AM   #484
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So when does Super Roman no-sell a DDT into concrete?
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Old 05-23-2016, 12:29 AM   #485
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"Redesign, Rebuild, Reclaim"

Kinda now want to see Rollins' new gimmick be "guy who keeps using corporate buzzwords at an organizational planning meeting."




He's already ready.
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I would get this if it wasn't $50.



It's no Asuka shirt, but pretty solid.
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Old 05-23-2016, 12:47 AM   #489
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Happy for the people that enjoyed the show; it just didn't do a whole lot for me. Felt like it would have been a good Raw, since it had a couple of good to great matches, but overall nothing really "happened" other than Seth FREAKIN' Rollins coming back at the end, which is great, but not really a "payoff" to anything in the preceding 3 hours.

I'll probably watch Raw live tomorrow to see what they do with Seth, at least, but the "New Era" seems to be more of the same holding pattern with different faces.
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Happy for the people that enjoyed the show; it just didn't do a whole lot for me. Felt like it would have been a good Raw, since it had a couple of good to great matches, but overall nothing really "happened" other than Seth FREAKIN' Rollins coming back at the end, which is great, but not really a "payoff" to anything in the preceding 3 hours.

I'll probably watch Raw live tomorrow to see what they do with Seth, at least, but the "New Era" seems to be more of the same holding pattern with different faces.
Nothing happened besides that, eh? I guess Rusev regaining his US belt just doesn't count.

I do think New Day retaining over Vaudevillains does more to hinder and harm the perception of the tah team division, though. Needs better structuring and booking, IMO.
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Old 05-23-2016, 03:05 AM   #491
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The Vaudvillains are fucking stupid and need to go away.
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Vaudevillians winning the titles would have hurt the division. New Day is totally superior to every other team right now. NXT call ups should not be in the title picture this early in my opinion though.
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The Ascension vs The Vaudvillians would be a Midcard match on the old WWF METAL/WWF JAKKED shows.
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They have about as much potential as Los Matadores. I mute the TV during their promos for historical accuracy.
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Old 05-23-2016, 04:54 AM   #496
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Nothing happened besides that, eh? I guess Rusev regaining his US belt just doesn't count.
lol i like how someone winning a nothing title that nobody gives a shit about is your argument that something happened. Unless you are being sarcastic, I don't think anyone can ever tell with you.
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Thought this as well.

Also thought the ending sucked the air right outta the arena. For the first time, I was in to Reigns's match and both guys were looking good. Someone said it above, but the beating he took just to kick out and do 1 spear was insanely anti-climactic and felt too much like a "lolcenawins" kinda moment for me.


IC match is easily the match of the night.
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Seth returning and picking up where he left off. Which was what I wanted.

No Shield reunion anytime soon, guys.
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This was the first show I've watched since the Raw after Wrestlemania. I've only very loosely followed spoilers over the last two months, but pretty much didn't really know anything in terms of storylines etc.

Overall though, I thought the show was great. Has the quality of WWE picked up since the "New Era" began? The fatal-four-way was fantastic, and was actually the reason I even bothered with the PPV in the first place. Ambrose and Jericho was good. I'm not that big on cage matches but there was some nice spots and Jericho taking the thumbtacks was unexpected. Reigns and Styles was also amazing. As someone said above the ending was kinda "meh", but overall I couldn't look away, the whole match was solid. Styles seems super over and it feels crazy to think that a guy who was pretty much TNA's franchise player for ten years is now headlining WWE PPV's, but good for him.

I see Reigns is still being booed religiously. It's a shame, as he's a solid hand in the ring, but obviously the circumstances of his push will always hinder him. Still, the three matches above made this PPV totally worthwhile. The two tag matches were good, though nothing special but fun none-the-less, and the Divas match I skipped. Nattie being in the title picture is pretty much back to basics in terms of random jobber diva is suddenly winning matches and #1 contender... she'll be off TV again within the next month. So glad the butterfly belt is gone though.

After WWE's output over the last year, this show was an absolute improvement on everything. 4/5.
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Yes, the quality has picked up - the show feels more new/fresh than it did half a year ago. Roman is a good wrestler and has had some really great matches - but since he doesn't really have a character/is bad on the mic - most fans boo him since he was "the chosen one"

I'm glad Rollins is back, I've missed him. Charlotte is also a good heel (in my opinion).
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In homage to the Wrestling Sim Topic/EWR...

Did you ever play those original data EWR games where you decided that Shelton Benjamin was the future of the business?

So you'd have Benjamin (Reigns), you'd give him a turn and a new gimmick to get a bit of a overness boost. You'd book him to win loads and loads and loads of matches and cut loads and loads and loads of promos for a year, he'd win all his feuds, he'd win the Royal Rumble and he'd go onto Wrestlemania and win the title from Kurt Angle.

His overness is 81, he started at 79. Sophie tells you he's not suitable to be WWE champion. There's just something in his stats that says that 81 over is his maximum level.

Now, whilst you've been booking Shelton as an unbeatable fighting god, you obviously signed a couple of indie darlings, Chris Daniels (Zayn) and AJ Styles (Owens) and booked them in tons of speed based gimmick matches and they're over as fuck, both in the 90's despite feuding over the IC title at best and jobbing to all your main eventers.

Even more weird is, because of some combination of gimmick and stats, Tajiri (Rollins) and Rhyno (Ambrose) are both 98 over despite winning 4 matches between them all year. Benjamin destroys them both, Shelton drops to 80 and Tajiri and Rhyno rise to 100, it makes no sense.

You quit the game because it obviously sucks and obviously you know better. Except Vince can't quit the game.
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Yes, the quality has picked up - the show feels more new/fresh than it did half a year ago. Roman is a good wrestler and has had some really great matches - but since he doesn't really have a character/is bad on the mic - most fans boo him since he was "the chosen one".
My opinion of Reigns is that he's as good as the guy he's working with. Put him with AJ Styles or Seth Rollins and you've got yourself a fantastic match. Put him with Big Show or 2016 Triple H, and... well... we've all seen the outcome.
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My opinion of Reigns is that he's as good as the guy he's working with. Put him with AJ Styles or Seth Rollins and you've got yourself a fantastic match. Put him with Big Show or 2016 Triple H, and... well... we've all seen the outcome.
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Not sure how anyone can say this was a great PPV. Nothing really happened or progressed storylines. The first few matches were dull so who cares. The asylum match was ok, it defintely dragged but the end was great. The fatal 4way was pretty good, I get why Miz retained but I think they need to hand that title to Cesearo or KO and let them run with it for a few months to elevate them to the main event scene. The womens match was good but really stupid ending, I would love to see the fued end in a cage with Nattie winning; I think she deserves a title run. The main event was pretty good. RR defintely needs an opponent like AJ who can make him look like a million bucks, the only shity thing was e super cena finish. With AJ throwing all those chair shots and finishers at him why would he go for that flying forearm only to lose via spear? At the very least RR should have rolled out of the ring, have aj fight to get him back in the ring, thus allowing RR time to recover. This finish was very Cena.
Overall itwas a very average PPV. Average set, average matches, average number of decent matches, 6/10 tops.
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Having watched this after a six/seven week break from following WWE, I wasn't at all involved with the storylines or anything. From a match perspective I found it a pretty entertaining show. Not every show needs to progress into the next, sometimes it's good to just have good matches and not worry about "omg how will that lead into the next show?!".

I dunno. I just enjoyed it. I can't think of anyone on here who has been more critical of WWE over the last year than myself, but this was a good show in my opinion.
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PPVs seem to be enjoyable as a whole with the TV itself becoming increasingly irrelevant, Raw included.
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Basically it might just be worth the $10/month just to watch a good 3 hours of wrestling every couple of Sundays. Toss in NXT still being an enjoyable hour and whatever stuff you want to watch on the archives and it's pretty great.
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My opinion of Reigns is that he's as good as the guy he's working with. Put him with AJ Styles or Seth Rollins and you've got yourself a fantastic match. Put him with Big Show or 2016 Triple H, and... well... we've all seen the outcome.
Spot on. He seems to look better against smaller guys. Hes a big guy without a powerhouse moveset so I see why. Working with Rollins should be good for him both in the ring and on the mic as he should have better chemistry with Seth.
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Yeah I thought it was a great show. Every match was solid, 4 way was probably the best but didn't see a match that didn't belong at a PPV. Thought the show was booked great all the way up to the spear finish but that just WWE. Think the Asylum match was perfect for Extreme Rules and understand why it got that amount of time. Just wish Lesner/Ambrose would have been more like that match. From a wrestling stand point it was a great show.
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I heard a segment got cut thats why the cage match went so long.....probably should have given more time to the tag match though.
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I heard a segment got cut thats why the cage match went so long.....probably should have given more time to the tag match though.
I believe it was the Usos/Gallows-Anderson match that people thought was cut short.
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Not sure where the nothing happened thing is coming from. I mean, I guess they could have had the IC title change hands but as long as Zayn didn't win I was fine with it. Vaudevillians shouldn't even be in that spot so them winning was definitely out of question.

I'm a fan of Zayn just think his first title should come later on.
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Basically it might just be worth the $10/month just to watch a good 3 hours of wrestling every couple of Sundays. Toss in NXT still being an enjoyable hour and whatever stuff you want to watch on the archives and it's pretty great.
I'm pretty sure that this has been my argument with you every time you've been like "this shit sux, I'm done."
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Well when I was really down on the product I still didn't have a whole lot of desire to spend money on it. And if the PPVs go to shit again I'll be back in that boat.
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What is the deal with all these suplexes really close to the ropes and corner? I think someone is gunna get hurt by this.
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Only thing that would have popped me bigger at the end would have been a curb stomp.

Surprised about the lack of love for this show from Meltzer though, too harsh on this one, I thought it was top notch.
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Meltzer seems like he has absurdly high standards that are almost impossible to meet at this point because he's grown so jaded of WWE as a whole.
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