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[Tom Guycott]

Originally Posted by Noid This one is better, but it's still go that stupid "Let me talk to ya..." at the start. He's very...bland. He's just there and he's trying soooo hard to get noticed.

"Let me talk to ya..." and "... fact of life." isn't so bad... IF he didn't do it exactly the same way ALL the goddamn time.

This on top of the 3 point thing EVERYTIME he says his name, "DUMMY, YEAH", "WHEN I SAY DUMMY... I WASN'T TALKING TO YOU, I WAS TALKING TO ME" shit makes him hard to listen to. And his delivery is, as I said before, way too similar to a Rock promo. It is like he's a dollar store Rocky.

Dollar Tree Eli Miavia.

Him being on some show with The Rock is news to me. But it makes sense, now. Maybe he got some "advice" or "coaching"... but it kinda stinks of knockoff. Kinda like anyone familiar with music around the mid 90's where Babyface could do no wrong, and you could tell who he had signed to his company, because any song written by him "sounded" like him in performance- most notably with Toni Braxton and the debut of Jon B. (who sounded so much like him, that nobody could originally tell which verse was Jon's and which verse was Babyface without seeing the video for "Someone To Love"). Point is, if he *did* get help, it was more a curse than a gift, because he comes off as more a TNA carbon copy than someone who got a few pointers to try help his career trajectory. It would do the same damage if he was on "Hogan Knows Best", and then showed up in TNA and was all "Brother" this and "Dude" that.

He is apparently comfortable on the stick, he just needs to dial back on that cringeworthy catchphrasy shit by about three notches and find more of his own "voice". You're a heel, shithead, stop pandering for the chants and reactions: just ignore it.

TL;DR - the guy has what it takes to be a huge star for TNA, BUT not when you try to force it like he does and oh-so obviously apes one of the biggest names in wrestling history to do it.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Originally Posted by Simple Fan TNA obviously sees something in him. Don't see how you can call the guy bland at all. His catchphrases may be a little corny but he's one of the better talkers in TNA.

Fan, TNA are fucking stupid. They chose Bubba the Love Sponge over Awesome Kong. You cannot objectively tell me that TNA seeing something in a guy is any form of qualitative endearment.

He's confident on the mic, but so is Miz. So was Kennedy. So was Road Dogg. So is Orton. So is Triple H. So is the comic at your local club. So is the racist down at the pub. Some people confuse being a confident talker with being a good talker, and some people confuse being a good talker with being a good promo. Saying "Yeah!" over and over again until a parrot repeats it does not sell television or pay-per-view.

Originally Posted by Simple Fan Miz is awesome but I'll agree with the Miz comparison. Do you think the Miz is bland as well?

Miz is...it's tough. There are times where I have gotten into him. When he was Mr. Money in the Bank I quite enjoyed him, for example. He tanked business though. People are gushing over him at the moment, because he cut one goodish promo. I think that's just conditioning to the modern scripted era.

Promos are supposed to be from the heart. They're supposed to sell yourself, your opponenet and your match to an audience. Miz may have successfully done that on Talking Smack, but I think it stands out because no one else is cutting real promos...at all.

I think expectations have always been tremendously low for The Miz, so when he does something average people think it's good, and when he does something good, people think it's great. That's why he always tends to sink below whatever station he is pushed to. He'd make a great manager, because he can talk, probably understands what a good promo is, can bump, and won't steal the spotlight from the stars, because he's just not that good.

I've also really liked his commentary. He really puts guys over. If he could focus on that once his in-ring career is done, I can one day see him calling a WrestleMania to be honest.

Originally Posted by Tom Guycott "Let me talk to ya..." and "... fact of life." isn't so bad... IF he didn't do it exactly the same way ALL the goddamn time. This on top of the 3 point thing EVERYTIME he says his name, "DUMMY, YEAH", "WHEN I SAY DUMMY... I WASN'T TALKING TO YOU, I WAS TALKING TO ME" shit makes him hard to listen to. And his delivery is, as I said before, way too similar to a Rock promo. It is like he's a dollar store Rocky. Dollar Tree Eli Miavia. Him being on some show with The Rock is news to me. But it makes sense, now. Maybe he got some "advice" or "coaching"... but it kinda stinks of knockoff. Kinda like anyone familiar with music around the mid 90's where Babyface could do no wrong, and you could tell who he had signed to his company, because any song written by him "sounded" like him in performance- most notably with Toni Braxton and the debut of Jon B. (who sounded so much like him, that nobody could originally tell which verse was Jon's and which verse was Babyface without seeing the video for "Someone To Love"). Point is, if he *did* get help, it was more a curse than a gift, because he comes off as more a TNA carbon copy than someone who got a few pointers to try help his career trajectory. It would do the same damage if he was on "Hogan Knows Best", and then showed up in TNA and was all "Brother" this and "Dude" that. He is apparently comfortable on the stick, he just needs to dial back on that cringeworthy catchphrasy shit by about three notches and find more of his own "voice". You're a heel, shithead, stop pandering for the chants and reactions: just ignore it. TL;DR - the guy has what it takes to be a huge star for TNA, BUT not when you try to force it like he does and oh-so obviously apes one of the biggest names in wrestling history to do it.

He may have been mentored, but I think a part of it might have just been TNA hiring him because they read his Wikipedia page, are horny for anything resembling "fame," and told him to act like The Rock.

He does need to find his own voice, and his comfort on the mic will make that easier for him if he chooses to do it, and he doesn't cling to this shtick that a few mutants in the Impact Zone follow.