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Old 08-15-2017, 07:11 PM   #1
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I think it says something about the issues of the people commenting when they have to go to such broad and in-substantive places in order to come up with anything though. And going back through, because I don't even remember you making a point, the shot you took at me was "This is the worst post you have ever written. BY FAR." That's a really week way of "making fun." Firstly, it implies that it's far worse than anything I've said, which means that the other stuff was good, therefore implying a scale of quality. Secondly, you don't really have the fortitude in your to explain why.

I know I'm asking trolls to discuss their trolling, which is a zero-sum game, but remember the days when trolls used to be able to genuinely stir shit, and it wasn't just "lol i'm trolling," like the intended action itself was the point, and not the intended consequence?

I'm very disappointed by the internet these days. Social media is where all the good bait is, I guess. You guys are pretty fucking tame, haha.
I'm not trolling you, I'm telling you your opinion sucks because it sucks (and you implied as much when you backed off by saying it was "just a thought experiment") because you don't have the gumption to actually defend your own shitty point.
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Old 08-15-2017, 07:27 PM   #2
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I'm not trolling you, I'm telling you your opinion sucks because it sucks (and you implied as much when you backed off by saying it was "just a thought experiment") because you don't have the gumption to actually defend your own shitty point.
I think your opinion sucks because it sucks too. Great discourse, Dave. Dale -- this is what someone who gets pissed off because you like something looks like. There's no attempt to defend some sort of objective metric here -- this is just a dude with a thorn in side, because he doesn't like my tone or whatever, making gripe because he can.

I was never particularly one-sided on the issue, because I hadn't made up my mind -- I was discussing it. That's what a discussion board was for. It got jumped on by people who took it to be an exaltation of Jim Cornette, possibly because of my pass biases, but I'm not afraid to defend my points, hombre. Let's have this out, if you can muster up the gumption.

I've fallen on the point where if I was Mick, I wouldn't take the gig. I think it's dumb, shitty, counterproductive, inane and Ryan's disposition towards people I like is smug and generally shitty. Didn't he accuse Jim Cornette of homophobia because he didn't like men being booked to touch his dick for comedy? I'm sure the goobers go along with it, but there's something creepy about a promoter that does this. And he's done it with women too, who again, I'm sure are willing, but it's just something I'd stay away from if I were promoting.

So yeah, I'd rather take another unnecessary bump for someone else. I wouldn't be caught dead there. Mick Foley isn't a starving artist, so he doesn't really have that excuse. But I guess he's of a different opinion, and that's his business. I'm just going to consider anything post 2004 in his career "non-canon."

That being said, as I said, I doubted Cornette will be personally offended by Foley doing it, and he wasn't. It's the trend of the product. It's just frustratingly shit, and it's starting to dampen my general love of even wrestling, because the goofy Raw/Smackdown shit is now leaking over into the independents.
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Old 08-15-2017, 08:42 PM   #3
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I think your opinion sucks because it sucks too. Great discourse, Dave. Dale -- this is what someone who gets pissed off because you like something looks like. There's no attempt to defend some sort of objective metric here -- this is just a dude with a thorn in side, because he doesn't like my tone or whatever, making gripe because he can.

I was never particularly one-sided on the issue, because I hadn't made up my mind -- I was discussing it. That's what a discussion board was for. It got jumped on by people who took it to be an exaltation of Jim Cornette, possibly because of my pass biases, but I'm not afraid to defend my points, hombre. Let's have this out, if you can muster up the gumption.

I've fallen on the point where if I was Mick, I wouldn't take the gig. I think it's dumb, shitty, counterproductive, inane and Ryan's disposition towards people I like is smug and generally shitty. Didn't he accuse Jim Cornette of homophobia because he didn't like men being booked to touch his dick for comedy? I'm sure the goobers go along with it, but there's something creepy about a promoter that does this. And he's done it with women too, who again, I'm sure are willing, but it's just something I'd stay away from if I were promoting.

So yeah, I'd rather take another unnecessary bump for someone else. I wouldn't be caught dead there. Mick Foley isn't a starving artist, so he doesn't really have that excuse. But I guess he's of a different opinion, and that's his business. I'm just going to consider anything post 2004 in his career "non-canon."

That being said, as I said, I doubted Cornette will be personally offended by Foley doing it, and he wasn't. It's the trend of the product. It's just frustratingly shit, and it's starting to dampen my general love of even wrestling, because the goofy Raw/Smackdown shit is now leaking over into the independents.
Why is it so sad that a guy that pulled a sock out of the crotch of his pants for years is doing a crotch spot here? And then putting over the talent in the spot? The crowd loved it, are they wrong for that too? Was Santino and the cobra not the same exact spot but not with his dick? Was that sad and pathetic too? Is there anything in wrestling you actually do like because you seem to have a problem with everything.
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Old 08-20-2017, 02:05 PM   #4
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Was Santino and the cobra not the same exact spot but not with his dick?
Wait... I missed this. One is an actual strike to the throat and the other is a guy with superhuman strength in his dick. How are you even comparing these two things? To not have a problem with it is one thing but let's not act like it's remotely the same thing much less "the exact same thing" as other silly wrestling moves. lol
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Old 08-20-2017, 05:08 PM   #5
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Wait... I missed this. One is an actual strike to the throat and the other is a guy with superhuman strength in his dick. How are you even comparing these two things? To not have a problem with it is one thing but let's not act like it's remotely the same thing much less "the exact same thing" as other silly wrestling moves. lol
It was a strike to the middle of the shoulder. And it only worked after he put the sock puppet on his hand. So a deadly strike to the shoulder via sock puppet isn't comparable to a deadly grip via dick? It's the same "you know it's fake but it's supposed to be funny" shtick.
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