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Old 09-25-2017, 02:12 PM   #36801
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Mike Knox was tight for a second. I forgot he used the Sister Abigail too. Made it look better, IMO.
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Old 09-25-2017, 02:29 PM   #36802
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Nah, WWECW started great. It went wrong when RVD and Sabu got busted so they put the belt on Big Show, then Heyman leaving after December to Dismember.

This is the exact moment I knew Vince was getting what he wanted and it wasn't going to recover:

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Yesh those 3 moments are pretty much it for where WWECW went downhill. Like with WCW, Vince being terrible managing the brand's name drove original ECW fans away in droves for good.

RVD getting busted for drugs while champ shelved whatever the original plans were going to be.

Big Show was actually a pretty great heel champ in WWECW but Vince was moronic for doing the Batista match at the Hammerstein Ballroom and expecting the crowd to react the way he wanted.

Vince forcing Bobby Lashley to be the one to dethrone Big Show at December to Dismember was pretty much the final nail. After that WWECW is pretty much whatever Vince feels like for direction and focus.
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Old 09-25-2017, 03:46 PM   #36803
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Really like Kurt Angle's ECW remix theme, minus the hella awkward loop intro.
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Rico playing some mind games.

Rico is rubbing himself to show that he wants D-Von's head in his crotch and it's freaking D-Von out so much that he doesn't want to go through with the move.
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Old 09-25-2017, 04:52 PM   #36807
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That's amazing. Well done, Rico.
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Old 09-25-2017, 09:47 PM   #36809
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I dunno if this post is thread worthy in and of itself, but it could be good for a couple replies, I imagine.

In any event, Vince McMahon allegedly gets behind people who he believes can kick his ass in a fight. And those folks are usually what are defined as "Big Sweaty Men."

This leads me to Zack Sabre Jr. When I first saw him, I thought he looked like a 12 year old Ken Shamrock. Then, during the match I saw, I realized "This dude could tie me in a knot without much effort." From then on, I realized he was awesome.

And then, I had to think about the folks I was a fan of, and they virtually all had one thing in common: They could either whip my ass or they look like they could whip my ass. I am not saying this to sound like some kind of Internet Tough Guy©, but if I see a guy coming to the ring that looks like a chump, I'm gonna be like "meh." The only appeal for someone like that is that, if they're annoying enough (Enzo Amore and Miz), I might enjoy seeing them get the shit beaten out of them.

I think a lot of that comes from being into WWF during the early '90s and liking some of the Bill Watts era of WCW (but not Erik Watts, who ironically didn't look like he could beat a drum, much less a grown man in a fight).
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Old 09-26-2017, 02:49 AM   #36810
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Really like Kurt Angle's ECW remix theme, minus the hella awkward loop intro.
Served the purpose, though. Crowd couldn't chant "you suck" because the cadence was off, and the song itself didn't have the pauses. Added to the previously mentioned "snap and become a badass submission machine" persona he was shifting to.
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Old 09-26-2017, 03:42 PM   #36811
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I was okay with the Enzo, Neville, and the rest of the Cruiserweight division closing RAW last evening.

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Old 09-26-2017, 03:58 PM   #36812
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Old 09-26-2017, 05:34 PM   #36813
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would be so much better if that song was for a dude, amirite?
I...guess so? Not sure if you're looking for an actual response or just trolling...

Now that I think about it, though, "It's all about me" somewhat reminds me of David Otunga's theme ("It's all about me/It's all about the power").
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Old 09-26-2017, 07:04 PM   #36814
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Seems like there are a lot of "wrestler holding a koala" pics on the internet
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Old 09-26-2017, 08:17 PM   #36815
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WWE is obviously running an underground koala sex ring to raise pyro money for WrestleMania.
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Old 09-27-2017, 02:14 AM   #36816
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Seems like there are a lot of "wrestler holding a koala" pics on the internet
But none have the Powah of the Tozawa Koala!!!


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... damn. Uh, can I neg rep myself for that one?
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Old 09-27-2017, 03:34 AM   #36817
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Old 09-27-2017, 10:52 AM   #36818
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Old 09-27-2017, 11:55 AM   #36819
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Do you guys think Jinder will get a second reign?
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Old 09-27-2017, 01:12 PM   #36820
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Old 09-27-2017, 02:14 PM   #36821
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Of course my reign ends just as we get another lead on the Luger case, now I have to beg for people to help out on this important case. Bruiser Brody somehow had knowledge of Luger's handling of Miss Elizabeth, but Brody knew back in January of 1987! That is why if you go back and see their match you'll obviously see Brody pissed at Luger and started throwing their match. When the match was over Luger asked Brody if it was something he did to upset him and knowing full well that telling Luger of his future would cause a rip in the space-time continuum, so he simply proclaimed..."no", when in reality it tore Brody up, Luger somehow knew that he was being hunted by time traveling wrasslers so he had Brody stabbed in the showers to cover up his knowledge. Hence why we have the Internet now.
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So sick of Luger! I bet he told Jinder to say those racist things last week too!
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We have to trace it now, he definitely helped out with last night's Jinder promo with the images of Shinsuke Nakamura, my son has disdain for me calling him Shitstain, but his mom started that whole thing and you can't get that out my brain for a hot minute yo. yeah dude. so.
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Do you guys think Jinder will get a second reign?
I don't know about a second reign but I can see him retaining at Hell In A Cell because he had new side plates on his championship last night on SmackDown.

The way I see it, why waste money and time making new ones if they're only going to be used three times on TV over twelve days, four months into a title reign?
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True but WWE does like making bad decisions.
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I don't know about a second reign but I can see him retaining at Hell In A Cell because he had new side plates on his championship last night on SmackDown.

The way I see it, why waste money and time making new ones if they're only going to be used three times on TV over twelve days, four months into a title reign?
He keeps the belt for life...
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Old 09-27-2017, 03:50 PM   #36828
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I don't know about a second reign but I can see him retaining at Hell In A Cell because he had new side plates on his championship last night on SmackDown.

The way I see it, why waste money and time making new ones if they're only going to be used three times on TV over twelve days, four months into a title reign?
Possibly to give the illusion that the reign will last longer.
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The way I see it, why waste money and time making new ones if they're only going to be used three times on TV over twelve days, four months into a title reign?
Well this is the same company that likes to waste money on shitty movies so i doubt making a couple of brass plates is going to bother them much.
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I don't know about a second reign but I can see him retaining at Hell In A Cell because he had new side plates on his championship last night on SmackDown.

The way I see it, why waste money and time making new ones if they're only going to be used three times on TV over twelve days, four months into a title reign?
Depends on when those plates were ordered since the longer its taken for Jinder to get it, the more it comes off as his decision to be champ and his current reign length was last minute ideas.

Think something like this has happened before where a champ finally got their side plates only to lose it shortly afterwards. Was more common when it was just name plates for belts.

Only real benefit is if Jinder becomes champ again in the future, WWE doesn't need to have a new set of side plates ordered.
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Really enjoyed Cody's time away from WWE. That's really no different from Alberto, Galloway, or anyone else that has left WWE recently. They seem to have more freedom which is great and lets them explore what works. Cody found something that he really likes and fits him and he's got the ROH World title stuff along with the Bullet Club stuff and their are alot of options for him going forward. How long before him and Kenny start to really butt heads? It's already being teased and could eventually come down to him and Omega. How big would Omega vs Okada be if the were ROH and IWGP Champions? It's just alot more than he had going for him in WWE and he's enjoying it.
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Honestly, I would never offer a limb to Minoru Suzuki. What happened there was easily the BEST case scenario.
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Honestly, I would never offer a limb to Minoru Suzuki. What happened there was easily the BEST case scenario.
More like only case scenario. Cody's character is a bit naive.
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More like only case scenario. Cody's character is a bit naive.
Worst case scenario is Cody being able to touch his elbow with the hand of his same arm. The storyline was Cody wasn't afraid of Suzuki, to which I think the only answer is "... yet."

I heard the match was cut short due to time constraints, which is bullshit. Because if the whole card wasn't planned enough to give the Main Event as much time as they need, as that is theoretically what people PAID TO FUCKING SEE, that's on the promoter. And if another match went longer than it needed to which it cut into the time needed for a proper Main Event, which again the people theoretically PAID TO FUCKING SEE, that is on both the promoter and the talent of that particular match.

Because let's face it: Suzuki doesn't come to the US often. And odds are, he may never wrestle in the US again.
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Worst case scenario is Cody being able to touch his elbow with the hand of his same arm. The storyline was Cody wasn't afraid of Suzuki, to which I think the only answer is "... yet."

I heard the match was cut short due to time constraints, which is bullshit. Because if the whole card wasn't planned enough to give the Main Event as much time as they need, as that is theoretically what people PAID TO FUCKING SEE, that's on the promoter. And if another match went longer than it needed to which it cut into the time needed for a proper Main Event, which again the people theoretically PAID TO FUCKING SEE, that is on both the promoter and the talent of that particular match.

Because let's face it: Suzuki doesn't come to the US often. And odds are, he may never wrestle in the US again.
Agree with everything you said. While I haven't seen the match the word on it isn't something I'd expect from a Suzuki match. Thought this match would be Cody's breakout as far as in ring performance goes. He has out side the ring covered but isn't exactly killing it inside the ring but being associated with Kenny Omega doesn't help him any there as he's going to be compared to him.
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From this week's Observer Newsletter on Vince's mentality for Reigns-Cena and Strowman-Lesnar matches at No Mercy.

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Vince McMahon came in with a very distinct vision for No Mercy, that this show and what would happen in the two key matches were not about now, or the day, but about telling the story of getting to WrestleMania, which is all about Lesnar and Reigns being the two superior guys in the company, and nobody else is on their level. Lesnar is being kept super strong so Reigns beating him means the most. Reigns is put over everyone clean so he’s the strongest challenger possible.

The idea was Cena would hit Reigns with every big move, over-and-over, and he couldn’t beat him, while Reigns would beat Cena with his usual stand-byes, the Superman punch and spear.

Similarly, Lesnar would survive multiple Strowman powerslams, and win clean with one F-5. He also wanted Lesnar vs. Strowman to be kept inside the ring (other than the one spot outside the ring involving the post, but nothing with tables and such), which kind of exposed Strowman, who got over on doing stunts outside the ring. The mentality, whether it’s right or not, was the short-term not so great match (I’m sure he was expecting a far better crowd response for the main event when he had the vision but going in it was going to be a short match with one F-5 as the finish) was the small picture and the big picture was both guys being as strong as possible for Mania.
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