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Old 12-05-2017, 05:16 PM   #1
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Does Kevin Owens weight hold him back?
Excuse the play on words in the title.

I have been wondering this these days.

On one hand, there are thousands and thousands of wrestlers in the world, hundreds of which ever make it on TV, tens of which make it to WWE and only a select few are featured in programs with the likes of Vince and Shane. Some would say that he has achieved so much that it is absurd to even suggest his weight and look could be an issue.

On the other hand though, is there a more well rounded guy on the roster? I don't think there is. He has great reactions, can talk really well, has great matches and has proven to be equally adept at playing the chicken shit or aggressive uber heel.

With that said, the question I am asking is, would Kevin Owens be the top heel in the company if he looked better than he does? Or do we think he has maxed out what he was able to do in the business?

I remember a conversation about sizes recently, but thought it would be interesting to have its own conversation.

To start things off, devils advocate...I think it's unacceptable that he looks like he does in such an athletic profession and I think it will take years off his career.

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Old 12-05-2017, 05:17 PM   #2
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No.

I feel Kevin body type doesn't effect him, espically as a heel. He has the body type that makes people underesitmate him. As a heel, that is a valued trait as people looking in, if they were truely willing to give Pro Wrestling a chance and watched the Characters, would see him as someone who should bully smaller wrestlers, but get beat by the chiseled gods. However when he does beat them, it makes them mad, and they begin to invest in the story of him.

Also, I do not believe the way he looks will take years off of his career, if anything the way he wrestles, It will save him some milage, as it's allowed his body to absorb bumps much better.
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Why are Samoans the only ones who get to be fat athletic guys?

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Why are Samoans the only ones who get to be fat athletic guys?

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Name a fat atheletic somoan that was a top guy thats gimmick wasnt "look at this freak show fat guy"
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People complain about his look now.

He gets in shape, people will complain that he looks like every other guy.

Can't please everyone.

It doesn't matter.

None of this matters.
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We need more fat wrestlers
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Name a fat atheletic somoan that was a top guy thats gimmick wasnt "look at this freak show fat guy"
Name a fat athletic samoan who could talk like Kevin Owens.
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Name a fat athletic samoan who could talk like Kevin Owens.
And yet despite he can talk he stillmisnt good enogh to beTHE guy...because hes a fat turd in gym shorts
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No considering WWE never had a problem pushing fat guys before in prominent roles. He's also pretty mobile and athletic for someone of his size compared to most fat guys the WWE ever had.

If he was Yokozuna or Big Daddy V type fat, could see that as an issue mainly in regards to his long term health.
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No considering WWE never had a problem pushing fat guys before in prominent roles. He's also pretty mobile and athletic for someone of his size compared to most fat guys the WWE ever had.

If he was Yokozuna or Big Daddy V type fat, could see that as an issue mainly in regards to his long term health.
A few interesting responses already, but will pick out this one to contend with.

Owens body type will cause him health problems, it's extremely unhealthy to have a gut that size. I am not chiseled specimen myself, but when I look at Owens, I still think, he looks unhealthy.

It's not only his barrel belly but he also has pasty white, flabby arms and Destor touched on his attire too. The whole thing looks lazy.

I like him, but I certainly don't get "guys will underestimate this one". I just keep thinking "I wonder how hard he tries to lose that". That's not a good thing to be thinking during his matches.
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And yet despite he can talk he stillmisnt good enogh to beTHE guy...because hes a fat turd in gym shorts
I don't think the mainstream audience cares. It's just something you hear from a vocal minority of the IWC, which itself is a minority in the total fanbase.
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I don't think the mainstream audience cares. It's just something you hear from a vocal minority of the IWC, which itself is a minority in the total fanbase.
There are very few wrestling fans who are not online and involved in discussions.

Now more than ever before, the IWC outnumbers casual fans. The casual fans stopped watching a long time ago.
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That is not remotely true. It's still a ton of parents and their kids. Who do you thinks uys up all that Cena and Reigns merch.
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In an era where everyone acts and looks the exact fucking same, it's nice to see a fat fuck in gym shorts who can wrestle for a change.
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The problem this thread will have is people wont answer the question.

The question isnt does his look bother you. Its will it hold him back. The answer is yes.
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The answer to that is also no.
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It won't hold him back until Vince decides it's the reason for some random angle not working
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That is not remotely true. It's still a ton of parents and their kids. Who do you thinks uys up all that Cena and Reigns merch.
And you don't think those kids are on the internet talking about wrestling? Those kids probably don't have the same tastes as you or I, but they are much more aware of the goings on behind the scenes as we were back in the day.

One thing they probably aren't buying is a pair of KO gym shorts either...because it isn't cool, face or heel
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It won't hold him back until Vince decides it's the reason for some random angle not working
Pretty much.
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It holds him back as much as it held back Vader... or Dusty... or Bam Bam... or any other fat guy ever...
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It won't hold him back until Vince decides it's the reason for some random angle not working
So itll hold him back then. Glad we agree
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It holds him back as much as it held back Vader... or Dusty... or Bam Bam... or any other fat guy ever...
Oh so like...in the sense vince never got behind them and cut their tenures short. Great point.
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So itll hold him back then. Glad we agree
We're getting into semantics now but when Vince does his Vince thing and does what Gertner said he's gonna do then no... that's not his weight holding him back. That's Vince not knowing what he's doing anymore and changing his mind on a whim. Something he can and does do for any reason.
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Oh so if he had his talents and a million dollar body Vince would still turn on him?
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It holds him back as much as it held back Vader... or Dusty... or Bam Bam... or any other fat guy ever...
Vader got dicked over in WWE, Dusty was made to be a joke and Bam Bam, despite headlining a Mania, was never a top guy and slipped down the card before he lost a squash to Goldust in his last match. I will give you Yoko and King Mabel though...although they were more for the freak size factor.
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Oh so if he had his talents and a million dollar body Vince would still turn on him?
... He would probably come onto the roster, get a huge push, get de-pushed, win a world title out of nowhere, lose it, get depushed, win the title again, get depushed, etc. It's what Vince does with most guys he gets behind regardless of their body because he's scatterbrained when it comes to booking nowadays..

... It's also what he did with... ya know.. Kevin Owens...
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What if Kevin Owens had Jinder's body, where would he be on the card?
Aren't they both main eventers right now?
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Aren't they both main eventers right now?
Nah...ish. they're upper missed in the long run at best. Will be lost in the shuffle on big shows and drift onto obscurity soon enough
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Really? Is that your next step? To try to get under my skin by calling me the #1 fan of the TPWW poster I despise the most?

Well, it worked. Fuck you.
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Nah...ish. they're upper missed in the long run at best. Will be lost in the shuffle on big shows and drift onto obscurity soon enough
I think I said "right now". They're at least Smackdown Live main eventers as of right now.
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Yes. They are main eventers.

Destor is doing the Droford "You're not right because of what's GONNA happen" tactic to get under my skin now. He's a sneakier troll than most.
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Kevin Owens will never be The guy, No one will be The Guy except Roman Reigns, We can debate all we want, but Vince has it set in Stone that Roman Reigns is the guy.

Also wasn't Owens the guy on Raw, or atleast the Top heel of it for most of 2016?
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