WWE releases Enzo Amore

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

It doesn't make me uncomfortable at all. People are awful. Many of them being capable of rape...just like many of them are capable of lying about being raped.

I legit have no horse in this race. Don't care about Enzo, he's just some guy on T.V. But due process is a thing that exists, and rampantly posting about getting raped on Twitter is just fucked up. As she is (allegedly) the victim, I get she's likely erratic, and not thinking clearly but jesus fucking christ.

I strongly believe in due process. It's greatly flawed, but the court of public opinion is the worse of the two. @Noid

[Mr. Nerfect]

Originally Posted by Dastardly Dale Newstead It doesn't make me uncomfortable at all. People are awful. Many of them being capable of rape...just like many of them are capable of lying about being raped. I legit have no horse in this race. Don't care about Enzo, he's just some guy on T.V. But due process is a thing that exists, and rampantly posting about getting raped on Twitter is just fucked up. As she is (allegedly) the victim, I get she's likely erratic, and not thinking clearly but jesus fucking christ. I strongly believe in due process. It's greatly flawed, but the court of public opinion is the worse of the two. @Noid

More are capable of rape than lying about rape. People don't really wrap their heads around that, like complex maths problems. If you rank rape as being worse than telling a lie about it, then just think about how awful the world is when the worse thing happens more. And these are only the ones that are reported. It's a bit of a mind-fuck, really.

Yeah, due process exists, and I don't think anyone is saying skip that? It always goes there when people take someone's (likely) claim that something is true and then states "That's fucked up and if it's true they should face consequences." Like, why respond to that with "but due process is a thing?" Yeah, that's what people are calling for. It's just a shame that it hasn't really caught up to the crimes in many fields (not just sexual assault).

I don't think I'm in a position to judge someone on how they respond to that sort of thing. People go back to their attackers willingly in attempts to gain "control" back. People abuse other people. They turn to drugs, prostitution, god or kill themselves. It's not as simple as picking out a pathway of how someone is supposed to react to that and then saying one that is more self-destructive or seemingly damaging is definitively an inappropriate reaction to something inappropriate and sometimes not always quantifiable. I think it is a dumb thing to do, but she is as much the subject of the court of public opinion now. And the thing is, the real court is still the one that holds weight.

If Enzo did not do this, it is far more likely it will come out that she is making it up than it is she is making it up. Let's just see how due process goes before we start appealing to due process.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Originally Posted by Noid More are capable of rape than lying about rape. People don't really wrap their heads around that, like complex maths problems. If you rank rape as being worse than telling a lie about it, then just think about how awful the world is when the worse thing happens more. And these are only the ones that are reported. It's a bit of a mind-fuck, really.

What is there to wrap my head around? I understand what you're saying. I take these allegations very seriously. I simply have a different perspective and don't take what the HuffPost tells me to believe to heart. I also don't stand on a moral high ground when discussing these issues. Realistically Noid, I can have whatever fucking opinion I want about these issues, as long as I'm not actually raping people.

But the main thing is, because these turn into he-said-she-said muck raking situations, the court of public opinion takes over and deems people guilty, when really we'll never know. Which is why SOME people are very resistant to the guilty until proven innocent pitchfork mentality plaguing enough of the population

It's a difficult subject to discuss. A family member was molested by her doctor as a 12-year-old. She didn't come forward sadly, but she also was a poor Jewish girl in South Africa during Apartheid, so she wasn't exactly empowered.

As I said, I'm happy this girl reported it to the police. But sensationalizing something this serious via Twitter is at the very least a damning indictment on society.