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05-22-2018, 11:36 AM | #41 |
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Wonder of the McMahon/Trump connection aided this deal. Helps to know/work for people in high places.
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05-22-2018, 11:40 AM | #42 |
I am the cheese
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05-22-2018, 11:44 AM | #43 |
boop/bop/beep
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I honestly believe it's the Trump connection. In which case, good for them. Eons better deal than their current.
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05-22-2018, 11:46 AM | #44 |
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Fox has made awful deals for live sports in the past with the UFC and NFL so its basically a pattern at this point.
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05-22-2018, 12:33 PM | #46 |
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financially poor decisions
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05-22-2018, 12:39 PM | #47 |
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for example the UFC deal cost them a lot of money; they are now looking into splitting the fees with ESPN to make it affordable.
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05-22-2018, 12:40 PM | #48 |
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and the 3.3 Billion they spent on Thursday night football likely will be a loss too unless the game on Thursday (continue) to approve
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05-22-2018, 12:44 PM | #50 |
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05-22-2018, 04:31 PM | #51 |
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Are networks able to cancel shows they have contracted for a certain time? Are there break clauses or are they essentially now showing Smackdown until the contract runs out whether it performs well or not?
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05-22-2018, 04:44 PM | #52 |
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Depends on the contract. Typically there will be stips on boths sides. Fox can back out if the show fails to do x but if they back out with out the show meeting those standards then the wwe would be entitled to y
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05-22-2018, 05:03 PM | #53 | |
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Like Destor mentioned, it all depends on the contract but very likely FOX has one in the new Smackdown deal. With the amount of money they are throwing around and WWE not being an actual sport, FOX would be foolish to not have one. |
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05-22-2018, 10:20 PM | #54 | |
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How much have certain stars been crucial in the negotiations? The rumors were that Ronda Rousey was being touted as a huge star for them, but if she is going to play a role on SmackDown, then she's obviously got to be on that show. It being on a Friday makes me think that they're going for kids, older crowds -- which is never good from the WWE, haha. What's this going to do the WWE schedule? Are they just going to do shows on Friday and Tuesday because a house show date, or are they going to try and do Monday, Tuesday and Friday with a third brand being added or something? I guess they're under no obligation to leave 205 Live on Tuesdays, and there's no guarantee it will even be going come 2019. This could mean the end to the brand split, or it could mean renewed focus on them as "unique" television presentations. It's got my interest piqued. Something about a FOX/WWE deal seems...right. Maybe it's because I associate FOX with low-brow entertainment, haha. But this is great for their visibility -- if people want to watch. I don't think it's all sunshine and roses for them, however, because it also creates added pressure on them to deliver. At the end of those five years, it will be interesting to see where both are. It's possible that they will also develop more content for Fox Sports 1, Fox Sports 2, etc. It wouldn't surprise me to see Main Event, 205 Live and NXT end up shuffled somewhere in there, or FOX to get an occasional special in order to pad out their line-up, drive up interest, etc. |
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05-22-2018, 10:22 PM | #55 |
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I don't think it hurts them. Feels like they are philosophically in-line with Fox's positions, which removes one obstacle. The general wrestling fan is probably someone that Fox can easily market too, as well. Well, the old stereotypical one. I think a lot of those fans have gone elsewhere by this point.
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05-22-2018, 10:29 PM | #56 |
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I don't know that Friday is that good a deal people tend to go out on Fridays
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05-22-2018, 10:31 PM | #57 | |
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Okay, it seems pretty insane, but the fact that they are a cable channel and a network makes the idea more workable. You are going to have people that don't have USA watching SmackDown, but Raw comes with the larger WWE audience. In a weird sort of way, I can see it boosting the overall viewership, because I don't think the split would be that much. So instead of 3 million people watching Raw on Monday and then 2 million watching SmackDown on Tuesday, I think you could have 2.5 million people watching Raw and 2 million watching SmackDown. That's 4.5 million for WWE, which hopefully drives up interest in both shows over time. It'd be an "investment" for NBC, and would need to be pitched as such. But it's something you could always change if it just cuts into Raw's audience and SmackDown doesn't get a boost from being on a network and the idea of competition isn't driving up the ratings. Ideally, since Vince and Kevin Dunn can't be in two places at once, this would allow for two completely different styles of production and, hopefully, creative (Vince would no doubt still be involved, but he can't be as "hands on"). Weirdly enough, I think it would be worth a shot. In a "real world angle" sort of way, it might be a way to get people talking if you can get it past investors and NBC as anything other than "Why the fuck would you shoot yourself in the foot?" |
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05-22-2018, 10:32 PM | #58 |
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05-22-2018, 10:35 PM | #59 |
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Originally, it seemed the roster split was designed to create internal competition, and stories over the years have actually kind of supported that. But when you have them on separate nights and want them both to do well without risking any scraped needs, it's never going to really approach that same level of competition. They don't even really feel as distinctly separate as Coke and Sprite do.
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05-23-2018, 08:56 AM | #60 |
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Come October next year a large dog will be probably be invading the yard surrounding the house that AJ Styles built
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05-23-2018, 08:57 AM | #61 |
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Meltz on SD being the new "A" show once it moves to FOX:
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05-23-2018, 10:16 AM | #62 |
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UFC gets 1.5 billion deal for 5 years with ESPN.
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05-23-2018, 10:16 AM | #63 |
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Everyone is rolling in money.
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05-23-2018, 10:17 AM | #64 |
MVP Mark
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I BROKE NEWS BEFORE SMEAT AND SLIK SUCK MY DICK
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05-23-2018, 12:39 PM | #65 |
Trickster Demon
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bah gawd almighty i have been hit w/ a chair like a guv'ment mule
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05-23-2018, 12:55 PM | #66 |
king of sucks
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05-23-2018, 03:03 PM | #67 |
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Plot Twist: NBCUniversal's parent company, Comcast, is countering Disney's offer to buy FOX, rumored at 60 billion to Disney's 52 billion.
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05-23-2018, 03:05 PM | #68 |
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Well technically Comcast nor Disney is buying the FOX Network or FOX News just everything else (Disney can't buy Fox Sports b/c ESPN...but NBCUniversal can).
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05-23-2018, 03:05 PM | #69 |
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Thats week old news...how is NBC just now reporting it?
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05-23-2018, 03:06 PM | #70 |
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*CNN
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05-23-2018, 03:10 PM | #71 |
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05-23-2018, 03:14 PM | #72 |
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damn @ CNN being lazy af
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05-24-2018, 07:09 PM | #73 | |
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Turns out UFC's deal with ESPN might be even more crazy than the bumps WWE got with the NBC and FOX deals. Also seemed ESPN learned nothing from their recent financial struggles when it came to handing out bloated contracts.
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05-30-2018, 11:42 AM | #74 | |
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https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/ne...ts-raw-1115156
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05-30-2018, 12:38 PM | #75 |
king of sucks
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that sounds like main event is going to fs1
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05-30-2018, 02:05 PM | #76 |
Let me talk to ya
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It's says studio show so I'd assume it'd be something like SportsNation only dedicated to WWE.
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05-30-2018, 02:08 PM | #77 |
Trickster Demon
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Talking Smack plz
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05-30-2018, 02:20 PM | #78 |
It's a blood match!
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Yeah Talking Smack has got to get that deal.
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05-30-2018, 02:50 PM | #79 |
Quark is Less Impressed.
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05-30-2018, 10:28 PM | #80 |
Trickster Demon
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