09-20-2018, 10:12 PM | #1321 |
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I've been down this road with you before, but I still don't see how Wonder Woman and Man of Steel are similar at all really. (Aside from being superhero stories where the hero leaves home, finds out about themselves, and fights a bad guy.... which happens in a lot of superhero movies.)
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09-20-2018, 10:24 PM | #1322 |
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Doesnt just happen in a lot of superhero movies it happens in a lot of movies.
There arent that many plots to begin with once you strip them down to their bare bones |
09-20-2018, 10:28 PM | #1323 |
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I don't really see that in alot of superheroe movies though. Not every origin story is that on point with most aspects like these two were. Destor said it was Captain America with boobs but the only similarities in the two to me was that they were both war pieces, the story told was way different.
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09-20-2018, 11:08 PM | #1324 |
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Still haven't seen Wonder Woman. Somehow can't get to it. Probably because it's about a girl and girls have cooties.
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09-20-2018, 11:24 PM | #1325 |
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09-20-2018, 11:26 PM | #1326 |
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It's been sitting on my HD for ages.
So has the last Star Wars flick. |
09-20-2018, 11:27 PM | #1327 |
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Well, as much as I don't give a shit about the WW character, I'll still take it over Star Wars.
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09-20-2018, 11:32 PM | #1328 |
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The last Star Wars flick was also not very good
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09-21-2018, 12:41 AM | #1329 |
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If youre in the target demo ep8 was good. If youre outside of that it was bad.
The choice to make long time fans anything other than your target demo might be a mistake. We'll have to see what the 8 year old audience theyre after thinks in 15 years. |
09-21-2018, 02:32 AM | #1330 | |
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Superman told the story of a man who stumbled thru life with no purpose or desire to do anything, who happens to figure out what he is, and questions what he should do and only acts because he feels obligated to. Those around him waver on there feelings for him and intentions, since he doesn't make them very clear as he plods along. The only thing they have in common is they are origin movies for super powered beings. The actual story they tell are not the same. Like Destor and others have said, strip it down to the bolts and movie plots don't differ much. |
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09-21-2018, 08:18 AM | #1331 |
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So is it worth what I assume is 3 hours of my time?
I'm not a Star Wars fan. I thought The Force Awakens was pretty cool but it was just random sci-fi stuff to me. |
09-21-2018, 08:37 AM | #1332 |
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09-21-2018, 08:38 AM | #1333 |
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If there is one thing we can all agree on, it is that Suicide Squad was a giant turd and two hours of your life that you would prefer to have back.
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09-21-2018, 08:54 AM | #1334 |
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09-21-2018, 03:36 PM | #1336 |
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I think the numbers for Solo speak well enough on that.
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09-21-2018, 04:03 PM | #1337 |
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I dont. I think solo shows that alienating the die hards and then making nostalgia films doesnt work. You have to commit. Going all in this new cannon could still work.
The portion of the audience that has accepted the new stuff are as fanatical as the old gaurd; i wouldnt write it off just yet. Im skeptical though. |
09-21-2018, 04:04 PM | #1338 |
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Ep9 will be very telling
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09-21-2018, 04:07 PM | #1339 |
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Ep12 will.
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09-21-2018, 04:12 PM | #1340 |
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I think youre saying that glibbly but it really will be. Where the franchise is in...5 years? That to me me very telling. What does a trilogy look like once theyve ran through the nostalgia acts?
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09-21-2018, 05:20 PM | #1341 |
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I just saw Solo, and it was way better then I thought it was going to be. I’d rather watch Solo again then Last Jedi.
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09-21-2018, 05:38 PM | #1342 |
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Solo could be the greatest film of all time it wouldnt change the fact it bombed
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09-21-2018, 05:47 PM | #1343 |
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09-21-2018, 08:24 PM | #1344 | |
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I liked Suicide Squad as well, wasn't big on the main villian and thought it should have been Joker but I thought it was decent. |
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09-21-2018, 08:25 PM | #1345 |
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Hated Episode 8 and thought Solo was good.
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09-21-2018, 09:32 PM | #1346 |
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Diana wasn't an outcast, she was beloved by literally her whole society.
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09-21-2018, 10:38 PM | #1347 |
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I loved Episode 8, and I liked Solo. Solo definitely deserved a better box office run. But I'm not a diehard and I'm always open for a different or risky take.
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And Suicide Squad was an absolute turd. It was horrible. BvS at least had some great standalone scenes. Suicide Squad was a steaming pile of shit with a few cute lines from Margot Robbie. |
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09-21-2018, 10:58 PM | #1349 |
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I liked Suicide Squad more than BvS. Still was not a great movie at all, and had terrible editing/story-telling.... but even with that, it still beat BvS for me.
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09-22-2018, 12:34 AM | #1350 |
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Liking a movie and acknowledging its bad are two different things.
Like I've said, BvS is a guilty pleasure of mine. But I know what I'm watching is trash. |
09-22-2018, 01:00 AM | #1351 |
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I can think of a lot of really awful movies that i love
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09-22-2018, 01:33 AM | #1352 |
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09-22-2018, 01:35 AM | #1353 |
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Whatever you say, dude
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09-22-2018, 01:44 AM | #1354 | |
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09-22-2018, 02:00 AM | #1357 |
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I mean we seen the movie differently then because she was an outcast to me being the only child on the island. She even showed that it bothered her a bit being the only child. Also being the only child on the island made her universally loved but I don't see that being any different than the love the Kent's had for Clark. Both knew they were something special but didn't really know what that special was and took a cautious approach to raising them.
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09-22-2018, 02:15 AM | #1358 |
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Being an only child does not make you an outcast. Thats reaching
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09-22-2018, 02:30 AM | #1359 |
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An outcast usually means someone who's not wanted by anyone and that's clearly not the case with WW.
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09-22-2018, 09:19 AM | #1360 |
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Andre 3000 could play Wonder Woman and she still wouldn't qualify as outcast.
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