10-14-2018, 01:24 PM | #1 |
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Crown Jewel / Saudi Arabia
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10-14-2018, 01:52 PM | #2 | |
Rigged from the start
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10-15-2018, 05:14 AM | #4 |
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Vince is such a stubborn prick. This might be one of his biggest public humiliations all because he won't admit this is dumb. Liberals and progressives hate the company for its propaganda, and conservatives are going to hate them because it is unpatriotic. He could seriously piss on everybody with this move.
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10-15-2018, 05:30 AM | #6 |
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Shut up, Dave.
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10-15-2018, 05:35 AM | #7 |
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Dave's not here, man.
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10-15-2018, 07:28 AM | #8 | |
b/c 5 is better than 4
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10-15-2018, 01:07 PM | #10 |
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10-15-2018, 01:54 PM | #11 |
Quark is Less Impressed.
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Gertner gets a question answered this week on Jim Cornette's Drive-Thru.
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10-15-2018, 02:10 PM | #12 | |
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10-15-2018, 02:11 PM | #13 |
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I actually thought we were living in those times now (and have been for a while) but apparently not.
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10-15-2018, 02:13 PM | #14 |
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Joey Ryan bro.
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10-15-2018, 02:14 PM | #15 |
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I think only Trump can get them to cancel. He probably got them the deal in the first place so yeah no. It's gonna happen.
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10-15-2018, 02:15 PM | #16 |
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10-15-2018, 02:20 PM | #17 |
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No but he is giving people who think wrestling is stupid bullets for their arguments.
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10-15-2018, 02:36 PM | #18 |
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10-15-2018, 03:17 PM | #19 |
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10-15-2018, 03:18 PM | #20 |
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UFC parent company pulls out of deal w/ Saudi Arabia
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10-15-2018, 03:18 PM | #21 |
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I also think there's zero percent chance WWE will pull out of the deal.
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10-15-2018, 03:18 PM | #22 |
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10-15-2018, 03:59 PM | #23 |
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10-15-2018, 04:12 PM | #24 | |
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Plus you have your Corey Graves and Seth Rollins types that know they will get roasted on social media if they mention anything positive about the event on social media or tv. Same for if they try to act being disgusted since they got ridiculed for their fake outrage last time (Graves with Greatest Rumble, Rollins for Boobygate). |
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10-15-2018, 06:17 PM | #25 |
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10-15-2018, 06:40 PM | #26 |
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If WWE had any slim hope of the Saudi embassy scandal dying down before Crown Jewel occurs, that's pretty much impossible now. Same for the backlash being even greater if they still go ahead with the event.
According to CNN, Saudi government will release an official report soon admitting they killed the dissident journalist. Also going to confirm reports of them luring him into the embassy in order to abduct him from Turkey. https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1051922561846657025 https://twitter.com/jaketapper/statu...12600391479298 |
10-15-2018, 08:18 PM | #27 |
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So progressive.
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10-15-2018, 08:26 PM | #28 |
boop/bop/beep
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10-15-2018, 08:34 PM | #29 |
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It’s about the connotation. Calling it “homoerotic” is doing a disservice to the art form.
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10-15-2018, 09:25 PM | #30 |
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10-15-2018, 09:27 PM | #31 |
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I played rugby for 12 years. Homoerotic as fuck. It's not a slight against anyone or anything. You've gotta be v insecure as a fan and unrealistic with yourself if that bothers you in any way.
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This is the smartest thing you've said in quite a while. Completely agree. It's not even that the guys are old, it's the emphasis the rudimentary "Here this is," heatless interjection of guys who just have matches because "Hey, hey..." There's no real continuous thread or evolution in the issues. Quote:
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How often have you seen some bullshit reported by the AP that makes them look like absolute marks? "Oh, they use fake blood," or Jerry Lawler and Jim Carrey work them on the set of the Kaufman movie. They thought Donald Trump actually bought the company at one point. Quote:
I've been very fortunate in my professional life. I can admit that. I've never been starving on the streets, and whenever I've had the chance to weigh up my values over a job, I've always been able to choose my values. I've left places that I can't agree with philosophically, because I knew I could get employment elsewhere. Maybe that's privilege? But I would absolutely not go on this tour. I wouldn't compromise my own integrity by participating in a propaganda campaign like that. And what are they going to do? Fire me? Okay. I'll go work for New Japan or ROH or something. I'm sure I'd be an internet darling after doing it. But the thing is they're not going to fire anyone, because the PR for that would be disastrous. That's why New Day and Titus O'Neil can speak out about Hogan. As if Vince is going to fire black talent for saying they are uncomfortable working around a racist in 2018 with their image concerns, lol. Worst case scenario about not going: You get more over. Quote:
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There's the problem of the division around her. You've only got a few women who can be believable in opposition, and the rest of the time she has to spend working with Divas. This has always been a problem with the dynamics of the division. She's heading into a match against Nikki fucking Bella at their PPV. Is she going to be selling for her? That's not going to go over well. They'll be in front of a New York crowd, all of whom have bought tickets probably intending to be "polite" to women's wrestling, but if they peak early, the show is underwhelming, the work is soft, the show is booked poorly, Nikki Bella is given too much star treatment, or they feel that this is golden goosed, they could potentially shit ALL over it. What's that going to do to their psyches? The crowd is the most interesting element to this upcoming show. But yeah, I'm worried about whether or not Ronda is going to be the star for them they really want her to be. Quote:
It's even weirder when you consider the socialist compount the industry has openly become. Everyone co-operates in such a weird and performative way. It's less suppressed in its homoeroticism, and now embraces almost an actively camp aura. |
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10-16-2018, 02:15 AM | #34 |
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I don't understand the reasoning behind wanting to cancel the WWE Crown Jewel event. I'm not big on politics but I understand that the most progressive Saudi Arabia has been is when WWE is in town. I don't see why a democracy would look down upon a company from their country trying to work with a country like Saudi Arabia.
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It's not even politics, really. It's common decency. If a murderer pays you $5,000 to say he's great on television, would you do it? If so, get some personal pride. |
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10-16-2018, 02:43 AM | #36 |
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A democracy looks down on it because Saudi Arabia isn't a democracy. Women get locked up for expressing themselves and daring to drive. They're a totalitarian regime. Accepting money from them to pretend that they aren't is the cheapest kind of whoring you can do. In terms of ethics.
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10-16-2018, 03:30 AM | #37 |
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Doesn't matter if Saudi Arabia is a democracy or not. The whole point of democracy is to hear everyone's ideas. The people of Saudi Arabia have no control over what their government does so I don't see a reason to punish these people by pulling the show. And yes what I seen from WWE's first event in Saudi Arabia they showed how the country was progressing to let women have more rights.
We kill our own in the US every day so I don't see this Saudi Arabia problem killing a journalist a big deal. Shit happens every day over here. As far as the women go that's their culture and its getting better. I couldn't give a shit about it. If the WWE is going to put on a big show for these people and treat it as a big deal than as a wrestling fan I want to see it. |
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In regards to politics, its a huge deal because the Saudis violated a big unwritten rule and international laws regarding the status of embassies. Need to check but don't think even some of the more well known evil regimes in history did something like this before. |
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10-16-2018, 03:48 AM | #40 |
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It's still a great deal for WWE and I don't see this as a reason to pass that up. Yeah it's all propaganda but if you're not used to that with today's media than you are doing pretty well. I could care less what goes on in Saudi Arabia unless it's a WWE event.
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