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Old 10-23-2018, 04:37 PM   #1
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You’re also an earthling. Why is the American classification the one you find important? If you’re gonna narrow it down, why stop there? Why not only care about murders in your state? Or your city? Or on your street? Or inside your house?
Because I live in America in that's more likely to impact my life than this journalist death. My state, city, street, and house are all in America as well.
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Because I live in America in that's more likely to impact my life than this journalist death. My state, city, street, and house are all in America as well.
You obviously don't know then that Jamal Khashoggi lived in self-imposed exile in America.
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Old 10-23-2018, 04:43 PM   #3
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He lived in America for over a year.
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Old 10-23-2018, 05:56 PM   #4
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You obviously don't know then that Jamal Khashoggi lived in self-imposed exile in America.
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He lived in America for over a year.
He should have stayed in America.
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Old 10-23-2018, 07:59 PM   #5
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There is a political narrative throughout the civilized world that Islam is a religion of peace and not a backward violent death cult aimed at the obliteration of gays, Jews, and atheists. Crimes committed by these theocratic states often go ignored by nightly news and political comedy shows. It's politically correct to ignore the atrocities committed in the name of Islam and instead to drone on and on about, "Not all Muslims" when ever something terrible happens.
So which is it? Do the politically correct look only at criticizing the United States, or do they ignore the issues in the US to focus on international atrocities, like Simple Fan states?

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Agreed but I don't follow the news or politics. I could start reading one of those articles and be bored by the first paragraph and quit reading it.
You do realize that I have forever won all debates about our taste for content in the future, right? "No, Impact is really, really good!" You can't read, Simple Fan. "Eli Drake isn't awful!" Human rights bore you, Simple Fan.

You have lost forever.

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You’re also an earthling. Why is the American classification the one you find important? If you’re gonna narrow it down, why stop there? Why not only care about murders in your state? Or your city? Or on your street? Or inside your house?


I don't get how some people can be arbitrarily born in a place -- no choice of their own -- and be so proud and concerned with it like it wasn't a matter of being the lucky product of their parents fucking. All the people killed by this regime are exactly the same products, they're just not lucky enough to be born in the United States where they can get bored by world events instead of bulldozed by them.

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And that, ladies and germs, is how propaganda works.
Right on. Dude watches WWE video and actually thinks they are bringing about change. He argues what a big deal it is, proving exactly why this is so disgusting and why so many are pissed off.

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I watched zero videos on this subject. What facts have I rejected? I wouldn't say I have a hard opinion either, I just don't give a shit about what goes down in Saudi Arabia.
You watched the WWE video. You reject the fact that the prince did this. "Oh, I don't know who he ran into." The prince's men. "Oh, he must have known something." He was a critic of the prince. "I think they're a more progressive country when WWE is in town." No, they're not. What do you call that if not rejecting facts? And you actively reject them on their own. "I'm ignorant to the issue." You are rejecting the facts.

And you do have a hard opinion about Saudi Arabia: you don't give a shit. Also, it happened in Turkey. And Turkey is pissed. You fucking idiot.

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It's not that I don't care about other people, I think you should treat others how you want to be treated. As far as forign countries go though they rarely cross my mind. I also don't think all humans share the same rights.
Okay, well, we won't care if someone decides to beat the shit out of you and cut you up with a bonesaw. Just for speaking your mind as an American. Got it.


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He should have stayed in America.
He went to the embassy in Turkey because he was told he needed to get some marriage papers. Suspicious or not, the guy was doing it because he loved his wife. The audio Turkish authorities and the CIA have is apparently because he was suspicious of the arrangement and set his Apple Watch or something to send out the recording of his own death so they could get something on this fucker, just so you can say "Well, I don't really care." Dude may have actually sacrificed himself so you can be a comfy fucker and say "Well, I don't get what is really so bad about the prince. Some people just don't get rights" and he can continue to operate in the United States (they have embassies there too and could still kill him), and do business with absolute cunts like WWE who spread the message that he is actually good.

His mistake wasn't because he was stupid, his mistake was thinking that you weren't.

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You obviously don't know then that Jamal Khashoggi lived in self-imposed exile in America.


This dude loved and embraced the United States. Oh well, wasn't born here, not good enough for Simple Fan.

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Thank fuck, but the word "frantically" really irks me here. This isn't a new story, guys. You're getting frantic now?

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What a shitstorm this has to be for Shawn Michaels. Comes out of retirement after 8 years for a $2Million paycheck, gonna end up getting probably like $50,000 for a house show at Full Sail University.
Shawn Michaels will be getting paid for his appearance. Why do people honestly think the dude is hurting for money and wouldn't get paid 7 figures for a WWE return? It's crazy to me.
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Old 10-23-2018, 09:32 PM   #6
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Shawn Michaels will be getting paid for his appearance. Why do people honestly think the dude is hurting for money and wouldn't get paid 7 figures for a WWE return? It's crazy to me.
Not saying he is hurting for money, but he got offered so much he couldn't turn it down.

Now that it has been set up and announced, he is gonna wrestle. If WWE isn't getting $45 million for a house show and are instead getting a standard house show gate, then nobody is getting the pay they would have in Saudi Arabia.
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Old 10-23-2018, 09:42 PM   #7
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Not saying he is hurting for money, but he got offered so much he couldn't turn it down.

Now that it has been set up and announced, he is gonna wrestle. If WWE isn't getting $45 million for a house show and are instead getting a standard house show gate, then nobody is getting the pay they would have in Saudi Arabia.
I think we've discussed this before, but while you're reasoning there is perfectly logical, I'll just throw out this:

Shawn Michaels could have made a shit-ton of money to come back at any time. He's perceived by many to be the GOAT, legit. Is the rumored sum $5 million? He could very easily have worked out a contract with Vince for that much previously. Plus merchandise, specials and all that. I don't buy money as being the reason. I really don't.

There are plenty of reasons HBK might want to come out of retirement. His children are older now. Maybe they want to see him work a match? He's been working with the young kids and might think he can teach them better by showing them what he can do. He might just have the itch. I'm sure he's not doing it for free, don't get me wrong, but I don't think it's a case of the prince throwing a whole bunch of money at him and Michaels thinking "Well, in that case..."

I predicted Michaels would be coming back the moment I saw The Rock rumors. I think backstage politics and Triple H's insecurities to function as a top level draw are as likely to be involved as the money. But all these issues compound into a plethora of reasons that Shawn Michaels might want to come back. But he can't really come back and not work the Saudi show. What if the Saudis asked for him and they said "No, he's retired," and then he popped up for WrestleMania?

If this show doesn't happen, Shawn will still get paid a shit-ton -- regardless if it is as much or not. WWE has $5 million lying around. But they may not give him that much. He may not want that much. But I'm sure the plan has been for him to come out of retirement for quite a while, and I'm sure it's not just isolated to one match.
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So which is it? Do the politically correct look only at criticizing the United States, or do they ignore the issues in the US to focus on international atrocities, like Simple Fan states?
The American Left only cares about Saudi Arabia now because Trump is in power, period. They ignore atrocities all over the world to push their agenda. If Trump came out strong against Saudi Arabia they'd call him an Islamaphobe.
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The American Left only cares about Saudi Arabia now because Trump is in power, period. They ignore atrocities all over the world to push their agenda. If Trump came out strong against Saudi Arabia they'd call him an Islamaphobe.
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The American Left only cares about Saudi Arabia now because Trump is in power, period. They ignore atrocities all over the world to push their agenda. If Trump came out strong against Saudi Arabia they'd call him an Islamaphobe.
As I said. The whole world is pretty terrible on human rights, but people like Noid only care about wrasslin' and their shitty domestic politics.

The only reason they're pretending to care about Saudi Arabia now and not from 2009-2016 is because of who is in power.
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You obviously don't know then that Jamal Khashoggi lived in self-imposed exile in America.
He was also a Muslim Brotherhood member
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And the Saudi's actually set up and bankrolled 9/11. What's your point?
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You’re also an earthling. Why is the American classification the one you find important? If you’re gonna narrow it down, why stop there? Why not only care about murders in your state? Or your city? Or on your street? Or inside your house?
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Because I live in America in that's more likely to impact my life than this journalist death. My state, city, street, and house are all in America as well.
lol Hate to pile on here, Fan. You know that didn't answer my question though.

The country is the point where you narrow it down to what you care about. You say only murders in America matter to you because they're more likely to effect you (Which isn't true. But that's a different subject.)

My question is, if that's the case, why stop narrowing it down? If someone was like "I don't care about murders outside of my street?" would you find that silly? If you would, why? They live on that street and that's more likely to impact them than some guy getting murdered on the next street over. It you wouldn't find that silly, then why don't you agree with that guy and only care about murders on your street?
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