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Old 04-08-2019, 02:36 AM   #1361
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Feel like the entrances would have been cool in the rain
Think Mania 25 had a little drizzle very early into the show but nothing major.
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Old 04-08-2019, 03:12 AM   #1362
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Old 04-08-2019, 03:20 AM   #1363
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I hope in the feedback WWE gets via things they send to fans everyone mentions the length of the show being too long.

No reason for the main show to go more than 4 - 4 1/2 hrs
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Old 04-08-2019, 03:26 AM   #1364
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I managed to get back to my hotel in Newark in 2 hours. Got on the train at the stadium in 45 min though.
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Old 04-08-2019, 03:29 AM   #1365
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I hope in the feedback WWE gets via things they send to fans everyone mentions the length of the show being too long.

No reason for the main show to go more than 4 - 4 1/2 hrs
I'll be contrarian and say a 7 hour show didn't bother me but it'll be hard for them to do just about everything right again over another 7 hour show.
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Old 04-08-2019, 04:22 AM   #1366
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WM35 was pretty good, G1 Supercard was a lot better.
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Old 04-08-2019, 05:18 AM   #1367
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I hope in the feedback WWE gets via things they send to fans everyone mentions the length of the show being too long.

No reason for the main show to go more than 4 - 4 1/2 hrs
They've had that feedback for a long time now though. I mean, if they announced it was going to be a shorter show to the live audience, I'm sure they actually would pop, which should tell you something right out the gate. But I think they are way too stubborn and in their ways.
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Old 04-08-2019, 06:40 AM   #1368
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I'm genuinely surprised they haven't extended Mania into two nights. HoF on Friday then Mania on Saturday and Sunday. Given the talent roster and the insistence on getting everyone on the card it would allow them to do that without necessarily compromising the flow or fan experience.

Not to mention they can sell the same seats twice and double ticket revenue. Given MetLife has been ready for Mania for about a week they'd obviously have to cover operation and labour (and pyro lol) expenses for a second night but a second night of ticket sales (and ppv buys as well as any sponsorship deals they can muster) would surely cover it.
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Old 04-08-2019, 07:50 AM   #1369
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They could also promote the first one as being a big deal on its own. Like how they used to advertise a Mania based on which event it was. They made a huge deal about WrestleMania XX being a landmark show and WrestleMania XXV being the 24th anniversary (although they kept calling it the 25th anniversary).
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Old 04-08-2019, 08:45 AM   #1370
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I’m lucky. The second the bell rang at the end of the main event, I went to the bathroom right underneath my section and took a piss and then booked it out of the stadium. Was able to get on the first train to Secaucus. Got to Penn Station around 1:15 and walked to my hotel, back in my room around 1:30.
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Old 04-08-2019, 09:14 AM   #1371
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Old 04-08-2019, 09:55 AM   #1372
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I was happy with Mania overall. A few 'meh' matches, but that's to be expected I think. At the rate they're going, Mania is just never gonna end. It'll be one, long, continuous wrestling card running 24/7.
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Old 04-08-2019, 09:58 AM   #1373
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WM35 was pretty good, G1 Supercard was a lot better.
People are complaining about how long WM was but G1 started officially 1/2 hour after WM (730) and only ended right about midnight so basically it was 1 hour shorter.
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Old 04-08-2019, 10:21 AM   #1374
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Did G1 also have a 2 hour 4 match pre-show?
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Old 04-08-2019, 10:26 AM   #1375
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Old 04-08-2019, 10:35 AM   #1376
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Did G1 also have a 2 hour 4 match pre-show?
2 Matches, about an hour and a half long.
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Old 04-08-2019, 10:37 AM   #1377
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Did G1 also have a 2 hour 4 match pre-show?
Pretty close. Women's 6-man tag and then they did a 30-man Rumble that went around 45-50 minutes.
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Old 04-08-2019, 10:41 AM   #1378
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I didn't mind the length of the G1 Supercard.
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Old 04-08-2019, 10:42 AM   #1379
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So it sounds like THAT show was too long and it was still an hour and a half shorter than WrestleMania. Pretty significant.
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Old 04-08-2019, 10:44 AM   #1380
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In watching the G1 on TV I really wish the Women of Honor match wasn't here as well as the Street Fight Open which would've been so much better with Suzuki just squashing Bully Ray while Juice comes out after with a limp to get a shot in only to get choked out by Suzuki starting a program together.
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Old 04-08-2019, 10:48 AM   #1381
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Yeah it seems clear Bully and Suzuki trading barbs on Twitter was them trying to set up the Street Fight but brass decided it was more important for Flip and Juice to get the moment instead.

I mean I get it. Flip's a full-time ROH guy and Juice works there a lot more often than Suzuki. But still.
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Old 04-08-2019, 10:49 AM   #1382
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I knew if Suzuki wasn't fighting Bully, he had to be starting the Honor Rumble so he can get his full entrance. You can't deny that crowd KAZE NI NARE
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They could've done exactly what I said and have Flip and Suzuki leave while Bully hands outside and gets into it with Ezno and Cass and Flip comes back and all the stable mates come out and bla bla bla... I know it's woulda coulda shoulda but the weak moments as stated by everyone were obviously ROH moments.
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Reading some conflicting reports about the ending of the main event. Reminds me of that weird Owens Styles ending. While the match was good, the ending felt anticlimactic. Not worthy of a Mania ending.
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The more I think about it, Joe vs. Rey was one of the best matches on Mania. Seriously, Joe comes in, minus the pageantry. Just pissed off with a chip on his shoulder. The match goes the way it does, Rey makes one small mistake, Joe chokes him out, and looks vicious. Stands over him like a Stanley Kubrick villain, and leaves like he owned the place. Joe has this aura that no one else has in WWE.

If Strowman carried himself with half the intensity that Joe does, he'd be their guy.
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So it sounds like THAT show was too long and it was still an hour and a half shorter than WrestleMania. Pretty significant.
The crowd wasn't as in to the main event but I blame Jay White
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Old 04-08-2019, 02:31 PM   #1390
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Has it ever rained at an outdoor wrestling show

Feel like the entrances would have been cool in the rain
It was raining at 2 in Newark which just proves Vince makes a deal with someone every year
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Old 04-08-2019, 02:34 PM   #1391
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I'm genuinely surprised they haven't extended Mania into two nights. HoF on Friday then Mania on Saturday and Sunday. Given the talent roster and the insistence on getting everyone on the card it would allow them to do that without necessarily compromising the flow or fan experience.

Not to mention they can sell the same seats twice and double ticket revenue. Given MetLife has been ready for Mania for about a week they'd obviously have to cover operation and labour (and pyro lol) expenses for a second night but a second night of ticket sales (and ppv buys as well as any sponsorship deals they can muster) would surely cover it.
They could do the occasional dome show but have it start at 2pm
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For those comparing it to the G1 Supercard, as #1-wwf-fan pointed out, it was about an hour/hour-and-a-half shorter. That’s up to half-a-good-Mania. Also, it’s not always about how long a show actually is; sometimes it is about how long it feels. If G1 worked, it worked. That could just be because it was a better show, was structured to build better, or that Mania just wasn’t there. Fans are also just generally exposed more to WWE. If you’re going to eat ice-cream for 6+ hours, you might prefer rum ‘n’ raisin as opposed to vanilla. The rum might get you a little drunk, at least.
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I fell asleep during the beginning of Triple H and Batista and then called it a night. Not because I was bored. I was very much enjoying the show. But it was just too much.
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I wonder if the logistics complaints will stop WWE from returning to MetLife for a while...

Vegas and LA stadiums both looming...Levi's probably 'itching' to host again...
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Then again everyone says the Orlando Stadium is in the worst part of the city and a massive dump despite renovations and Vinny Mac loves O-town
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Watched most of mania. So here's my review of what I bothered to sit thru.

Brock v Rollins
Was surprised it open but didn't mind it. The crowd was pumped right from the start, and were into Seth. I loved the match as a whole. And even tho it wasn't clean, Rollins did win decisively. No run ins. No distractions or other shenanigans. No 50 F5s. Obvs the low blow isn't clean but it was good enough.

Aj v Orton
Thought this was pretty good. Orton has this deliberate pace that sometimes works really well but can also be a momentum killer. It didn't drag tho and they had pretty good chemistry. Orton sells so well. Thought this might win match of the night going on. It didn't but it's still one of the better Randy Orton matches.

Kofi v Bryan
Match of the night. Crowd was huge into Kofi from the onset. The way the match was structured and paced was perfect. Loved all the little counters and the ending was perfect. Even tho I was for Bryan retaining, Kofi getting his moment was great and now that crowd reaction gets to live forever.

Angle v Corbin
Blah. What a shit way to send off one of the best stars ever. Kurt can't really go at all, and Corbin wasn't gonna pull a good match out of him. Shame we didn't get Cena.

The Elias/Cena skit was great. Cena coming out in the old gimmick and getting the entire arena to chant his name was awesome.

Becky v Charlotte v Ronda
This was actually a really good match. Paced really well and some really good spots. The shame is that the crowd seemed to want to be into it, but were burnt the fuck out. The finish was also odd. I don't mind Becky winning on a roll up at all. I think they could've drug it out longer before hand tho. Ronda was booked to be unstoppable. Great. Take out Charlotte, then have Ronda beat down Becky but be unable to pin or submit her, her frustrated and Becky takes advantage and wins with the same finish.

What I decide to sit thru was really good. But I think I left out about half the show if not more, and didn't bother looking at the pre show. Shit is just too long. Crowd gets burned out and the show itself is bloated. The matches don't mean as much when everyone and their brother is wrestling on the show.
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Which made me realize if they had made it the ME it literally would have been a new day
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