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Old 09-22-2019, 10:09 AM   #1641
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Only tidbits that came out are the names confirmed for the tour and that tweet Smeat posted a few posts above.

As far as an acutal card, probably hear something this week.
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Kishin Liger ended up making a special appearance at today's Destruction in Kobe event.

Figured NJPW would have saved that moment for a later event this year or possibly Wrestle Kingdom but instead got it out of the way pretty quickly.
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Old 09-22-2019, 10:40 PM   #1643
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The only thing more shocking than Kane being bald is Liger being bald.
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Old 09-23-2019, 05:06 PM   #1644
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Seems NJPW is doing a bit of a shakeup with their current batch of Young Lions.

They released a video revealing Ren Narita is heading over to the LA Dojo and Jon Moxley's adopted son Shota Umino teased in a recent promo that he wants to start his excursion phase.
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Old 09-24-2019, 02:34 AM   #1645
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Seems NJPW is doing a bit of a shakeup with their current batch of Young Lions.

They released a video revealing Ren Narita is heading over to the LA Dojo and Jon Moxley's adopted son Shota Umino teased in a recent promo that he wants to start his excursion phase.
I'd love to see him open a package with a note saying "Give em hell, Shooter", and the box contains a leather jacket with Shota spray painted on the back in orange kanji.
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Old 09-24-2019, 03:22 AM   #1646
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The only thing more shocking than Kane being bald is Liger being bald.
Eh. I was more surprised at the Joker makeup. Surprise is kinda the wrong word... it's just... a Joker cosplay is kinda played out at this point. Equal parts "OH SHIT!" and "Oh, shit." Liger has been around forever and the hair doesn't like to stick around that long.
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Old 09-24-2019, 05:35 AM   #1647
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Really disappointed with the NYC card. Thinking of selling my tickets
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Old 09-24-2019, 06:57 AM   #1648
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Yeah that card is kinda lame considering the insane price to get in.
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Narita and Umino have officially gone on excursion. Narita is heading to the LA dojo, which is odd since those guys just seem to work local indies. No mention of ROH. Shota is heading to Rev Pro where he should easily be a top guy. Might not get to reunite with his adoptive father for a few years though.
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Old 09-24-2019, 02:30 PM   #1650
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NJPW doesn't really use ROH for excursions and tend to favor CMLL more for that stuff.

They must be very pleased with Shibata's work at the LA Dojo to consider it as excursion worthy.
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Old 09-24-2019, 03:02 PM   #1651
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Ooof.

Judging by those cards, I think Boston got the best card of the bunch for this weekend.

NYC looks decent, Philly got the short end of the stick.
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NJPW doesn't really use ROH for excursions and tend to favor CMLL more for that stuff.

They must be very pleased with Shibata's work at the LA Dojo to consider it as excursion worthy.
They had Jay White there not too long ago, EVIL also had his there and a lot of the guys they sent to CMLL worked there later into their excursions (Hiromu, SHO, YOH). I guess Finlay was also unofficially on excursion there before he got hurt.
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Old 09-24-2019, 03:55 PM   #1653
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Completely forgot EVIL went to ROH first.
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To be fair, I think ROH forgot he was there for his most of his run.
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Old 09-24-2019, 06:18 PM   #1655
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Think his time away also coincided with NJPW still having a partnership with Impact and where I would have been more familiar with guys sent there like SANADA.
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Not sure about YOH's new gimmick...
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NJPW just announced that New Year's Dash 2020 will be from Ota City Gymnasium this year. Some were thinking the 2nd day of WK could have been "New Years Dash" but no they are running a legit two day super card at Tokyo Dome and a bigger arena (4,000 seats) for New Years Dash. Very ambitious.
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Anybody catch or hear anything from the Lowell show.

Good, bad?
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Old 09-29-2019, 09:40 AM   #1659
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Can't believe no one is talking about NYC last night. New Japan thinks someone tried to sabotage the show. Apparently yesterday morning someone called the private ambulance company that the Hammerstein hires to do their shows and told them the New Japan show was cancelled. Come showtime New Japan thinks the ambulance is stuck in traffic. When they call they come to find out the ambulance company was told the show was cancelled and now doesn't have any ambulances available. The FDNY agreed to lend an ambulance but apparently it's against the rules to do that and it has to be from a private ambulance company. Took an hour and a half before someone got there and the show started.

Other than that great fucking show though.
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I've seen the video of the executive in ring pleading for forgiveness, poor guy. You'd think the company providing the ambulance would at least verify that instead of just taking some rando's word for it. Glad the show was worth the wait though,
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Apparently the ambulance story is a bit more complicated than simply the ambulance being late or someone prank calling the ambulance company.

The story about someone claiming the show was cancelled was legit but NJPW had a replacement one arrive on time. Problem was it came from the NY fire department which meant they legally needed two at the venue in case one had to leave for an emergency.

Somehow that led to 4 ambulances being at the venue with the 2 from the fire department getting sent away and 2 from an ambulance company staying. NY Commission still refused to allow the show to start until the remaining ambulances were properly set at the venue.

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The short version of the story as to why the New Japan show last night at the Hammerstein Ballroom started 90 minutes late, the ambulance story is pretty much legit, but it's far more than that. The company that usually provides ambulances for the building was called the morning of the show to say it was canceled. Those backstage found out at about 5:30 p.m. and ended up getting an FDNY ambulance to the building in time for the show to start. The Athletic Commission rep said that if there was a shooting nearby the ambulance would have to leave and wouldn't accept it or allow the show to go on. A second FDNY ambulance came but it was the same story. Two other ambulances ended up being brought in so at one point there were four ambulances there. At this point the two FDNY ones left since the commission wouldn't accept them. Then somebody tried to tell one of the ambulances (a commission person) that two weren't needed and one of the others could go, but those associated with the show asked, what if somebody needed an ambulance and thus, with only one, there wouldn't be one there, and the commission said they would have to stop the show at that point until the ambulance got back. So they kept two. They also had four doctors, three more than necessary, on their own including one that spoke Japanese. At the time the video played, the two ambulances were there but the commission would not allow the show to start until they were in the back of the building and a stretcher was in the building, as they were in the front of the building when they wanted to start the show and were told they couldn't. NJPW was also told the barricade couldn't be used to throw wrestlers in, no fighting outside the ring, no tables and no blading. For union reasons, the show was supposed to end by 11 p.m. but we're told even with rushing the show, NJPW decided to run overtime even with the added cost.
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According to Voices of Wrestling, Suzuki is rumored to be leaving NJPW soon. Hasn't been happy with his spot in the company and likely would have left earlier if it wasn't for the Liger feud. Current rumor is him going back to Pro Wrestling NOAH.

Also rumored to be leaving soon is NJPW's president Harold Meij.
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Old 10-06-2019, 12:57 AM   #1665
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According to Voices of Wrestling, Suzuki is rumored to be leaving NJPW soon. Hasn't been happy with his spot in the company and likely would have left earlier if it wasn't for the Liger feud. Current rumor is him going back to Pro Wrestling NOAH.

Also rumored to be leaving soon is NJPW's president Harold Meij.
I can't say I blame him. He's been an afterthought since Meij took over. Which is a travesty. Meij wants an American following, but doesn't push the most over guy with American audiences. Fucking idiot.
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Old 10-06-2019, 11:18 AM   #1666
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Suzuki leaving is sad. Can see WWE making him a huge offer.
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Old 10-06-2019, 02:42 PM   #1667
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I can see why somebody like Suzuki would be dissatisfied being pushed down the card, but honestly unless you want to give him a sympathetic thank you run with the top belt (which doesnt really make sense for his character) there just isn't room for him at the top. You have so many other guys who are going to be around for a long time and are better investments. He at the very least isn't treated like the others from his generation, who pretty much only get to beat the rookies now and he still gets featured programs occasionally.

Being left off WK definitely pissed him off and not having him in a featured role at MSG in particular was a total mistake. If the G1 wasn't his own decision then that's understandable too. Cant see him ever leaving Japan completely though, he apparently hates travel and I doubt he wants to move to the US at this point in his life.
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Old 10-06-2019, 04:23 PM   #1668
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Old 10-06-2019, 05:46 PM   #1670
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I can't say I blame him. He's been an afterthought since Meij took over. Which is a travesty. Meij wants an American following, but doesn't push the most over guy with American audiences. Fucking idiot.
Would blame the rest of NJPW's management and not Meji for that since they are the ones handling the US expansion stuff and Meji mostly handles the UK and elsewhere. Meij's biggest problem was setting way too high goals for the company and likely going to lose his job since they won't reach it.

In terms of status, he's in the right spot but problem is it involves the NEVER division and UK stuff which NJPW treats as an afterthought (NEVER) or given lesser status (UK) in favor of the US expansion.
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Well I am for Suzuki doing some AEW shows if he leaves NJPW. I don't watch NOAH so I hope that's what happens.
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Probably will know very shortly after Wrestle Kingdom 14 if those rumors had any truth to them since it was originally hinted that is when Meij was expected to leave.
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If Suzuki is going, I think they’ll try to keep him around til the Dome to put over ZSJ so that they can turn Suzuki-gun into Sabre-gun.
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Suzuki leaving is sad. Can see WWE making him a huge offer.
I don't. Not a viable one, anyhow.

I mean, they can throw money at the guy for sure, but when you factor age and the idea of him being not happy with being misused... him going to WWE spells more of a disaster than Steiner Math.

Someone like Shinsuke apparently doesn't give a shit since he's content with getting money and fucking off to go surf. Minoru Suzuki's ceiling would sadly be NXT. He would become a bigger "afterthought" than he is now on the main roster, and there aren't many guys like a Regal or Taylor or Finlay around to put up with the requisite stiffing a match with him would entail.

I'm not saying AEW should make an offer, but as it stands, it would be better for everyone: him, the company, and wrestling fans. I'd selfishly like to see him come in and add to what Corgan is doing with NWA and beat up a couple guys during the next set of Power tapings. Would make a lot of noise for that product.
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Dragon Lee was meant to be teaming with Titan but he got pulled in wake of his CMLL firing. NJPW doesn’t want to book a guy on bad terms with their partner.
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I hope it's more that they had already booked a CMLL team and didnt want to go back on it rather than outright just dropping Dragon Lee. I heard rumours he has already worked out a deal somewhere so if that isn't New Japan that could also be a factor. No LIJ reps or interesting guests either.
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Old 10-10-2019, 12:40 AM   #1678
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LIJ not having any reps makes sense since Shingo moved up to heavyweight and no Himoru around to tag with BUSHI.

Wouldn't be surprised if NJPW kills off their partnership with CMLL by the end of the year or at least is watching very closely to see if CMLL actually splits any time soon. If it does split, they probably will side with Sofia Alonso's version and not the one being run by her uncle since it likely gets them Dragon Lee back.
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With all the stuff New Japan got going on between upcoming departures, the stuff with CMLL, I sure hope they're at work with contingency plans.
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NJPW announced Fantastica Mania is returning next year and very likely means Dragon Lee's time in the company is done due to CMLL.
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