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Old 11-30-2019, 09:27 AM   #201
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The context of this initial story, which was conveniently left out even though it seems real important, is that Vince and King were calling him M.R. because it stood for mental retardation. It wasn’t some catchy nickname or a tribute to J.R., it was making fun of his initials being the same as mental retardation and him having mental issues. You know, bullying. Like children.

Someone looking to see an insult will find one every time.
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Old 11-30-2019, 09:33 AM   #202
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Old 11-30-2019, 09:44 AM   #203
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Old 11-30-2019, 09:53 AM   #204
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I mean, really.
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Old 11-30-2019, 10:00 AM   #205
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Mauro's paranoia is not indicative of other peoples intent. Just because he perceives everyone is out to get him and that they all mean one thing when they say another does not mean that is what's happening in reality.
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Do you really think it's unlikely that Vince and Lawler would do that?
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LAWLER: Hey Mauro, your initials are M.R. did you know that?

MAURO: Yes.

LAWLER: Back in the 70s when I was relevant, that stood for mentally retarded. Are you mentally retarded, Mauro?

MAURO: I’ve been diagnosed with bipolar disorder, which causes me to experi-

LAWLER: Great! You’re a retard! I’m gonna call you M.R. from now on! What do you think about that, M.R.? Did you do any crying today, M.R.? Do we need to get you a straight jacket, M.R.?

MAURO: Please don’t call me M.R.

SEANNY: Now see here’s a guy who’s just looking to get offended.
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Old 11-30-2019, 10:06 AM   #208
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LOL you fabricating an entire conversation doesn't prove anything. Are you serious right now? You accused people of leaving out parts of the story earlier, why are you leaving out the reality that when a third party told Lawler what M.R. used to stand for he immediately quit using it...
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The M.R. thing happened within the first few weeks of Mauro being there too. Before most of them knew how potentially sensitive he could be about things like that. Which is why Lawler quit as soon as he was told the meaning and that it bothered Mauro.
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Old 11-30-2019, 10:17 AM   #210
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The report I saw said that Vince and Lawler knew exactly what it meant.
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Old 11-30-2019, 10:18 AM   #211
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And if Lawler did voluntarily stop saying it out of respect to Mauro, then good! I’d like to see others do the same thing.
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Old 11-30-2019, 10:31 AM   #212
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The only mention of Vince I can find anywhere is from some whacky site I can tell is BS. Says something about how when Lawler and some other people were calling Mauro MR because they didn't think anything was wrong with it, Vince supposedly knew what it meant because he used it as an insult on the playground in elementary school and so he thought it was funny. Like a personal inside joke. Whole article seemed kinda bogus.
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Old 11-30-2019, 10:34 AM   #213
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MR has literally never been common parlance or slang. The words "mental" and "retard" have, but outside of the medical community nobody was using it and especially not as a handy insult, because it isn't handy. It is a clumsy and unwieldy way to say it. No kids have ever run around calling mentally ill people "MR", this is a completely false narrative and the expectation that nobody would look into it is typical of someone fabricating a lie.
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Old 11-30-2019, 10:36 AM   #214
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The report I saw said that Vince and Lawler knew exactly what it meant.
So you're speculating.
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Old 11-30-2019, 10:38 AM   #215
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Yea. My wife knows the term "Mental" as slang for it. And I grew up in the states where we all called people retards when we were little. The only other term I remember hearing when I was younger was spas/spastic/special. Never have I ever heard anyone use M.R. before. Asked my dad yesterday out of curiosity because he grew up in the 50's and he said he had never heard it and they just called them retards or touched.
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We’re all speculating Sean
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Someone find me a film or show from 1950 onwards where MR is colloquially used by an average person to describe a person with mental illness in a mocking way.

Words like lunatic, spastic, retard, mental, simple, SLOW etc were all preferable at one point and became offensive due to the euphemism treadmill.
MR isn't in that group though. Nobody ever used MR to fuck with somebody.
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MR as in JR.
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Wouldn't surprise me if Vince was doing that, JR was in an interview a while back and he was told Vince used to impersonate him with the Bells Palsy in meetings he wasn't at.

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MR as in JR.
Indeed. But screw that. This is WWE. There just HAS to be an evil ulterior motive to it.
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Oh yeah I totally forgot about them doing similar stuff to JR. I am speculating that this company might be a toxic work environment.
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Oh yeah I totally forgot about them doing similar stuff to JR. I am speculating that this company might be a toxic work environment.
I mean Jim Ross is a cantankerous fucker and not always an innocent bystander - as which he is often painted. Even still, he was subjected to some cruel, despicable stuff.
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remember when they pulled jr's head out of vinces ass in the adatude era. then there is the kiss vinces ass club where jr is a member of
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Making my point for me. It doesn't matter if WWE and everyone in their employ is completely innocent here. You guys have convicted them based on the past and won't even consider otherwise. They just HAVE to be guilty.
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I mean... what are we saying they're guilty of? I'm personally discussing the scenario from as balanced of a perspective as possible. Past behavior doesn't guarantee they acted poorly, but it definitely makes it a probability.
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I mean... what are we saying they're guilty of? I'm personally discussing the scenario from as balanced of a perspective as possible. Past behavior doesn't guarantee they acted poorly, but it definitely makes it a probability.
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Thank God this isn't court and you guys aren't jurors.
You’re right of course, but you know what’s funny about this is if this was a trial for workplace discrimination, WWE could bring up all their past bad behavior to say hey look, we’re not discriminating against Mauro, we treat all our employees like dirt.
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I just hope they would bring Eugene in as a character witness.
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Argument from the middle ground fallacy. The center isnt inherently right
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Old 11-30-2019, 05:10 PM   #234
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I'm not trying to "be right" nor am I condemning WWE to the bloody bowels of hell. Just using basic logic and common sense. Company and boss with a long history for bullying and being shitty is likelier to be bullying and act shitty. Also, they're not up for trial. We're talking about it on a wrestling forum.
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Old 11-30-2019, 05:12 PM   #235
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At the end of the day, y'all are just as happy to say Mauro is being paranoid and deluded, probably because you don't like "weakness."

I'm not even a fan of Mauro's and think he's focused on getting himself over. But he hasn't even made a statement on the matter. Just reacted like someone who's very ill with bipolar disorder. Eh, I've already claimed if he's going to be in the WWE, he needs to find better coping mechanisms. But they're the ones who've hired him twice with full knowledge of his condition, and the stories keep leaking about them apparently hating him at the same time. So I find the whole thing strange.
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Imagine if Mick Foley went flying off that HIAC every night. He was great at it, the fans loved it but it made his colleagues uncomfortable and was incredibly bad for his health.
Now imagine Mick was given every support and allowance to keep doing it because the fans somehow convinced the world that it was his right to keep doing it when really they are just selfish.

The whole time Mick is calling Vince McMahon a bully because his back hurts and the fans all agree Vince should do more to make the solid concrete floor softer for poor old Mick even though the simplest option is to take him off TV to save him from himself even if it risks pissing off the fans.
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