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Old 06-28-2020, 03:08 PM   #56041
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Yeah the Dusty thing was weird. It also happened in 98. The 98 editions made no sense because the storyline should have been over
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Old 06-28-2020, 03:11 PM   #56042
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I liked the large NWO roster because it you actually got to see the NWO take a pinfall loss. The only guys on the NWO I disliked were Konnan and Brian Adams. Especially Adams.

I always looked it as guys choosing sides, so the random additions didn't bother me

I also think the NWO should have ended at Starrcade 97
Good point! I never understood ppl like Dusty Rhodes joining though.
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Old 06-28-2020, 03:11 PM   #56043
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Seems there's some conflicting reports about WWE being interested in signing Tessa Blanchard.

Observer reported WWE recently sent contract feelers to her while Squared Circle Sirens' Casey Michael doesn't believe the report based on the past times Meltzer claimed WWE was interested in her but never bothered to sign her in the end each time.

Blanchard is one of Meltzer's known sources in the indies and supposedly does have a habit of feeding him stuff to prop up her own value whenever she's been a free agent.
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Old 06-28-2020, 04:08 PM   #56044
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RE: nWo Bret discussion.

If Bret had been the third man Hogan would have still come in and lead the group eventually.
It's Hulk Hogan FFS, he wouldn't sit and watch a huge money maker without wanting a piece.
If they did it that way round I wonder what would have happened to WWE?

No evil McMahon anyway.
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Old 06-28-2020, 05:47 PM   #56045
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If Bret had joined in 1997 after the Sting win, he could have taken the group from Hogan, who would have booked himself as the conquering babyface.
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Old 06-28-2020, 06:41 PM   #56046
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This too.

Virgil and Bryan Adams in the nWo isn't exactly compelling TV.
Adams/Crush doesn't get enough consideration for worst wrestler ever. He was fucking BAD.
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Old 06-28-2020, 07:15 PM   #56047
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Kronik were over though. I saw a Kronik sign in an old WWE match the other day. I had to pause it to make sure it wasn't a drug reference.

I feel like they made it to WWE after the acquisition and Vince realised who they actually were so he just released them with Buff Bagwell and whoever else.
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Old 06-28-2020, 07:18 PM   #56048
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If you're a wrestler over six five called Bryan/Brian you are guaranteed to suck ass.

Brian Lee
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If you are under that height you are probably pretty good.
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Old 06-28-2020, 08:27 PM   #56049
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Kronik were over though. I saw a Kronik sign in an old WWE match the other day. I had to pause it to make sure it wasn't a drug reference.

I feel like they made it to WWE after the acquisition and Vince realised who they actually were so he just released them with Buff Bagwell and whoever else.
They came over after the whole Invasion angle ended. Like just after.

They were over to the 2000 people at WCW shows. I wouldn't call that "over"
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Old 06-28-2020, 08:50 PM   #56050
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Old 06-29-2020, 01:52 AM   #56051
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Wow, sending Mick back out there after what happened earlier in the night
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Old 06-29-2020, 05:41 AM   #56052
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If you're a wrestler over six five called Bryan/Brian you are guaranteed to suck ass.

Brian Lee
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If you are under that height you are probably pretty good.
Lol, I’m going through Brian’s/Bryan’s in my head, and this rule is proving universally true.
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Old 06-29-2020, 11:11 AM   #56053
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I watched all the 1997 WCW Pro comps on youtube these past two weeks lol. Here's one of them below




My biggest takeaway from these shows is: Public Enemy were fucking awful.
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Old 06-29-2020, 11:34 AM   #56054
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Old 06-29-2020, 12:11 PM   #56055
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Wow, sending Mick back out there after what happened earlier in the night
He was already out there and was a significant part of the main event finish. He went out to help Kane, then Taker came out and tried to hit Foley with a chair but missed and hit Austin causing Austin to bleed and lose the match.

Foley = workrate
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Old 06-29-2020, 01:48 PM   #56056
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Lol, I’m going through Brian’s/Bryan’s in my head, and this rule is proving universally true.

I miss Brian[t] Gonzales
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Old 06-29-2020, 02:49 PM   #56057
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I just told Meltzer that the ratings dropped on AEW because all those future guys who talks non stop about aren’t going to draw.

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Old 06-29-2020, 02:55 PM   #56058
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He was already out there and was a significant part of the main event finish. He went out to help Kane, then Taker came out and tried to hit Foley with a chair but missed and hit Austin causing Austin to bleed and lose the match.

Foley = workrate
taker with the broken foot and austin with the elbow infection, mick was not to be outdone!
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Old 06-29-2020, 04:00 PM   #56059
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Watching Mark Henry's sex therapy vignettes.

He says his first sexual encounter was when he was 8 with his sister.

Attitude!
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Old 06-29-2020, 04:01 PM   #56060
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Watching Mark Henry's sex therapy vignettes.

He says his first sexual encounter was when he was 8 with his sister.

Attitude!
lol I like how this is obviously an attempt to steal some Jerry Springer material for some lolz, but it's actually a deeply troubling example of incest and possibly sexual abuse.
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In an interview for the DVD Mark Henry also un-ironically says gay people thanked him for his displays of tolerance during the "Mark vomits after kissing a tranny" angle.

Self awareness, have you met Mark Henry?
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lol I like how this is obviously an attempt to steal some Jerry Springer material for some lolz, but it's actually a deeply troubling example of incest and possibly sexual abuse.

The therapists reaction is to scream "you're not still having sex with your sister are you Mark?!!" over and over again.

I had to skip through it, one of his next sessions sees a fat therapist try to grope him.

Outstanding!
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Old 06-29-2020, 06:49 PM   #56063
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WWE is currently expected to make a major announcement regarding the future of the NXT UK brand tomorrow.

Its currently not known what this announcement will be but all talent involved were told attendance for tomorrow's conference call is mandatory.

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A major announcement is expected to be made Tuesday regarding the future of the NXT UK brand of WWE as talent were informed there is a mandatory conference call tomorrow, but were not given any indication what for.

Given the timing, it could be anything from establishing and emphasizing a new code of conduct to what the future holds for the brand itself.

A number of NXT UK contracted wrestlers were named in various allegations over the past two weeks as part of the #SpeakingOut movement. Two of those wrestlers, Travis Banks and Ligero, were released Friday. Additionally, NXT UK has held no shows in months due to the pandemic.

Prior to the pandemic, WWE had been in an expansion mode with plans for using the UK formula to create NXT outposts all over the world. But with the company's short term goals focusing on increasing profit margins while taking in less revenue, leading to massive cuts, those expansion plans have been shelved for the time being.
Edit: talkSPORT reported that this announcement won't be the closure of NXT UK since WWE is still committed to their NXT global expansion plans.
Link: https://talksport.com/sport/wrestlin...-uk-expansion/
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WWE is currently expected to make a major announcement regarding the future of the NXT UK brand tomorrow.

Its currently not known what this announcement will be but all talent involved were told attendance for tomorrow's conference call is mandatory.



Edit: talkSPORT reported that this announcement won't be the closure of NXT UK since WWE is still committed to their NXT global expansion plans.
Link: https://talksport.com/sport/wrestlin...-uk-expansion/
I’m guessing that with lockdown measures being eased more over here from July 4th that they will probably look at doing shows again (without an audience).
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Old 06-29-2020, 08:53 PM   #56066
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why is this wikipedia photo of Michael Cole so sinister




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I think because that's the exact sort of visual set up a politician will use when confessing to something everybody already knew by then, and it's always mucky.
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Old 06-29-2020, 11:34 PM   #56068
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The therapists reaction is to scream "you're not still having sex with your sister are you Mark?!!" over and over again.

I had to skip through it, one of his next sessions sees a fat therapist try to grope him.

Outstanding!
That therapist should be ashamed. No where near the level of professionalism of one Dr Shelby.
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Old 06-29-2020, 11:38 PM   #56069
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why is this wikipedia photo of Michael Cole so sinister




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I think because that's the exact sort of visual set up a politician will use when confessing to something everybody already knew by then, and it's always mucky.
"Multiple sexual allegations were wagered against one Michael Cole during the #speakingout movement, alleging he fowarded unsolicited pictures of his penis to several WWE employees with the caption "...and I quote".
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Old 06-30-2020, 05:55 PM   #56070
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WWE's major announcement regarding NXT UK mainly ended up just being them simply talking to talent to see how they were doing and hinting tapings would be resuming within the near future.
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WWE viewership today vs TWO years ago. TWO.



18 - 49 down almost 50%

18 - 34 down more than 50%

12 - 34 down more than 50%

25 - 54 down almost 50%

50 + down about 25%



2018:


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Necro Butcher diagnosed with Stage 3 Hodgkins.
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Necro Butcher diagnosed with Stage 3 Hodgkins.
No idea who this guy is but I wish him well regardless. I also bow to Gertners seemingly infinite wrestling knowledge.
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Old 06-30-2020, 08:04 PM   #56075
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Necro Butcher is a CZW legend I believe. A master of the death match. He was also featured in Darren Aranofsky's "The Wrestler."
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From main-eventing to Main-Event
The lowest rated episode of that show so far is what that will bring.
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Old 06-30-2020, 08:56 PM   #56077
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Necro Butcher was the fucking man. Had awesome matches with Low Ki and Samoa Joe in IWA MS. Had runs in ROH and CZW. Like Dale said, mostly known for Death Matches but was an excellent brawler. Super smart, well spoken guy

I saw pics from his retirement match in January. He didn't look well. Has a wife and young kids. I think like 5-6 kids. Very sad.
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And Killer Tim Brooks just passed away. I remember Brooks going into Hospice a little while ago. A legend in Texas. 72 years old.
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Old 06-30-2020, 09:31 PM   #56079
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After ECW shut down, Necro Butcher and Nick Mondo were the first notable hardcore/deathmatch wrestlers I knew of from the indies.

Not sure if it was TPWW or some other forum for where I first learned about them at the time.
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Yeah I'm pretty sure I learned about Necro on these forums way back in the day.
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