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Old 04-08-2021, 07:30 AM   #1
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Most sports don’t have a GOAT. It’s really only hockey. Every other major sport is debatable.
With respect to hockey, there are many people out there that consider Orr to be greater than Wayne and so I’d argue that the NHL is debatable as well. While Gretzky destroyed Lemieux in every statistical category, Lemieux was one of the only players in the NHL to have crazy stats during the “dead puck” era of the NHL (1995-2004), although in Gretzky’s defense, he was a little bit older during this time.
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Old 04-08-2021, 08:48 AM   #2
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With respect to hockey, there are many people out there that consider Orr to be greater than Wayne and so I’d argue that the NHL is debatable as well. While Gretzky destroyed Lemieux in every statistical category, Lemieux was one of the only players in the NHL to have crazy stats during the “dead puck” era of the NHL (1995-2004), although in Gretzky’s defense, he was a little bit older during this time.
There is no debate for the NFL GOAT anymore. You can't argue against Brady anymore.

Don't think anyone really argues against Babe Ruth for MLB. If Trout ever gets on a winning team he might enter the discussion but he is with the Angels so no one has to worry about that.

NBA is contested by two people with a few long shots thrown in every now and then.
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Old 04-08-2021, 12:13 PM   #3
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There is no debate for the NFL GOAT anymore. You can't argue against Brady anymore.

Don't think anyone really argues against Babe Ruth for MLB. If Trout ever gets on a winning team he might enter the discussion but he is with the Angels so no one has to worry about that.

NBA is contested by two people with a few long shots thrown in every now and then.
Agreed about Brady.

I would actually go as far as saying that he may have surpassed Michael Jordan and Pele in the terms of being the GOAT for all sports.
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Old 04-08-2021, 01:14 PM   #4
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I give credit to Hogan kicking off the two biggest booms in wrestling history. The 80s with Hulkamania, and the 90s with the NWO.

The only guy that could've made that NWO angle blow up like it did by turning heel was Hogan. That led into the Monday Night Wars and the Attitude Era. Im not sure you get the 90s boom without Hogan turning.
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I give credit to Hogan kicking off the two biggest booms in wrestling history. The 80s with Hulkamania, and the 90s with the NWO.

The only guy that could've made that NWO angle blow up like it did by turning heel was Hogan. That led into the Monday Night Wars and the Attitude Era. Im not sure you get the 90s boom without Hogan turning.
its a storng argument. IMO it was a large portion of the WCW audience leaving Nitro for Raw that put the WWF on top...but what weight do we attribute why they left being BECAUSE of Hogan? Im of the opinion that as much as he drew them in his inability to put Sting over (and just having an AWFUL "mania" [see: starrcade] match in general) is why they left.

Should that not factor against him in equal parts?
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