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Old 10-01-2021, 08:55 PM   #41
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LOL I just watched a clip of the draft on Twitter, crowd rightfully booing the shit out of New Day being split again.
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What am I supposed to boo about Gable and Otis? Extremely likable and natural baby faces. I do not get it.
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Because Otis shaved and got a haircut, so he is clearly a heel
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LOL come on, Naomi wouldn't get picked in the 4th round
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Ok, Naomi REALLY wouldn't get picked before Jeff Fucking Hardy lol
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LOL what? Austin Theory was already on Raw, first with Andrade and Garza, then Rollins and Murphy. That wasn't a long time ago, do they think we just forgot?
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Oh ok. Becky is just doing a McGregor impression. I get it.
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WWE should be ashamed and disgusted with themselves after tonight. Pure garbage company.

I legitimately meant to be post that Charlotte Flair would be drafted to SmackDown as Raw Women’s Champion then didn’t. Just knew that would happen. Austin Theory being called up doesn’t surprise me. Nor does Hit Row. Kind of felt Bianca and Street Profits going to Raw. SmackDown will be the Four Horsewomen show, Raw will be for the “next wave,” women’s teams and possibly some joshi action (predict Io Shirai will go up to work with Asuka). I think Toni Storm and Liv Morgan will end up over there too. At least Toni.

I think WALTER and Timothy Thatcher end up on Raw. I think they’ll put some technicians there. Cesaro to get into that mix.

Kind of pissed I didn’t say that I think Rey & Dominik would end up on Raw, because I did. Damian Priest and Nakamura & Boogz will trade spots. Priest is a good candidate to win the Rumble. It’ll be between him and McIntyre.
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Old 10-01-2021, 10:37 PM   #52
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Jeff Hardy to SmackDown was obvious. Edge going to Raw were my first thoughts, but I backed off from that because he and Jeff could do fun stuff. Also thought Rex Steiner might end up an Edge ally.

It all makes sense. Weirdest move to me so far is New Day to SmackDown, which I didn’t call. But I thought New Day on Raw together helps them all. I guess they want Big E to stand on his own. Big E is too weird to be champion. I would book Karrion Kross as the next WWE Champion immediately.
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Not sure if AJ and Finn are Raw or SmackDown, but I think they end up on the same brand. I would like to see Balor get a full-time supernatural gimmick.
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Keith Lee is someone I thought might go to SmackDown, but he fits what I think they’ll do to Raw. And Mia fits Raw’s Women’s Division better than SmackDown’s. The Bearcat name is dumb though. He should really be Wildcat Keith Lee.
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Have Alpha Academy been drafted? I think/hope they go to Raw.
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Owens & Zayn to Raw too. Probably Ziggler & Roode. I think Sheamus stays on Raw.
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Santos Escobar and his crew will end up on Raw. They’ll put together a lucha thing with them, Rey & Son, Lucha House Party and The Garzas. Damian Priest will fill the Rey slot for a Hispanic star on SmackDown.
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Raw will also have a “technical division” I think. Not an official one, at least I hope not, but Raw is the place you’ll go to see Cesaro and WALTER beat the shit out of each other, Timothy Thatcher wrestle Drew Gulak, etc. Maybe a guy like Tyler Bate. It will be somewhere between NXT UK, the guys with amateur backgrounds (Gable, Otis, Ziggler, etc.) and heavy hitters with European backgrounds (Cesaro, Sheamus, WALTER).

Orton, Big E, Lashley, Riddle, Edge and maybe AJ and Finn will hold down the main event side.
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Possible Becky and Seth change sides too, but I had them figured in for SmackDown.
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Had this idea ages back that Charlotte would be drafted, and she’d kind of spit on Raw for letting her go. She’d threaten to throw the Raw Women’s Title down but Bianca would challenge her as a “last shot for Raw.” Bianca would win the belt and then be all “Look, I love it here, love being Raw Champ, but I gotta get at Becky.” She enters the Women’s Rumble to win as Raw Champ to go against Becky for “Two Belts” at Mania. She kicks ass in the Rumble (they usually use her well in it), but Rhea eliminates her in the end: “You’re looking past me.” Becky, Sasha and Charlotte have a Triple Threat like they did at Mania 32 now years on. Bianca and Rhea fight.
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Women’s Tag is a new gimmick that is four corners elimination, but after the first fall, the champions enter. Ends up being Asuka & Io (w/ surprise return Kairi) vs. Toni & Liv. I had Nia and Shayna in there getting eliminated first when Shayna turns face, but I guess that isn’t happening now. Oh, and Nattie would team up with Beth. They’d eliminate Shayna & Nia. They’d go next. Dakota & Raquel (the favorites) would go next by Kabuki 2.0. That would leave you to believe Toni & Liv (the champs) would be retaining, but Kabukis take it. Champs are protected when Nia loses her shit on Shayna’s betrayal and attacks Toni & Liv on their way down. After Shayna saunters past them on their entrance and remarks “Nice ass” to Toni.
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Uhhh, what? I’m optimistic about this draft. I think Vince is just annoyed enough about the bullshit optics that people present that he will actually try to make both shows good. They probably won’t play out that way, but the potential is definitely there.

The thing I’m angry about is that he doesn’t have to. AEW is no threat. He can literally do whatever he wants.
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By the way, this draft totally has Paul Herman’s fingerprints all over it. I can totally see Vince calling Heyman, Prichard, Hayes, Triple H and Stephanie into a room and asking them how they can be different to shut up this AEW talk. Heyman would speak loudest and lay out a vision for each show:

Raw does AEW stuff as good or better than AEW can. They’ve got the Lucha Bros and The Young Bucks? We’ve got REY MYSTERIO, the legendary Gran Metalik, the prodigies in Angel Garza & Humberto Carrillo.

They have an emerging Women’s Division? They like joshi? We’ve got Asuka vs. Io Shirai. We’ve got Rhea Ripley, Toni Storm and Bianca Belair.

They like tag teams? Say hello to those lucha teams. Owens & Zayn, Ziggler & Roode, The Bar, Street Profits, Imperium, Edge & Rex Steiner.

Oh, what can’t they do? Technical wrestling. They’ve got Bryan Danielson? Here comes Timothy Thatcher, Drew Gulak, Cesaro, Matt Riddle, Dolph Ziggler, Chad Gable, WALTER.

Raw isn’t going to necessarily have the Match of the Year every week. But it can be set up to have Match of the Week every week.
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Gable Steveson is coming through. Set up a roster that can work with him for him. Amateur guys, technical guys, experienced workers you have burnt through with Reigns on Raw.

Nothing “stupid” about this draft...so far.
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My big “wild” prediction is that Raw becomes the “wrestling show.” Way more wrestling than we’re used to. It’s three hours. You’ve got time. There will be the silly 24/7 stuff sprinkled through, but you can change perception by simply letting Thatcher and Gulak go out there and wrestle for a quarter. How can WOR talk shit about that? Hmm?

That’s what I’d be pitching anyway. I can imagine Heyman doing the same. A three hour variety show doesn’t work. It’s too long for anything to register. You need to limit it in the way that it goes three hours, but the three hours count like they could be abridged to two, or even one.

I’m doubtful this happens in execution, but the plan is the best thing for Raw, and also SmackDown. Load SmackDown up with stars that can hold your attention for two hours, while Raw thrives as a hub for guys to actually go out and do shit that online commentators have to pay respect to.
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Thanks, man. I act like an ass because fuck people’s uninformed opinions, but at the core of it is a wrestling fan. I love this shit so much. I see it go haywire and know it’s going down the tubes. It makes me sad, but I have trouble placing it in a here and now sense. I guess. I think (I think I know), I see past the “everyone has jobs, they get to do what they want” point, and I see the “no one gives a shit and in a few years this won’t have a platform at all” point people get called a troll for.

Wrestling, at its best, is a perfectly digestible form of light entertainment to break up the week for the layman. At its worst...it’s as dead as the circus for mistreating animals. It’s what the person you wouldn’t sit next to on the bus watches and still has faith in. I hate that. And there are enough smart people involved in it to change it, but will they? Who knows? They seem happy taking their fictional wins.
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Thanks, man. I act like an ass because fuck people’s uninformed opinions, but at the core of it is a wrestling fan. I love this shit so much. I see it go haywire and know it’s going down the tubes. It makes me sad, but I have trouble placing it in a here and now sense. I guess. I think (I think I know), I see past the “everyone has jobs, they get to do what they want” point, and I see the “no one gives a shit and in a few years this won’t have a platform at all” point people get called a troll for.

Wrestling, at its best, is a perfectly digestible form of light entertainment to break up the week for the layman. At its worst...it’s as dead as the circus for mistreating animals. It’s what the person you wouldn’t sit next to on the bus watches and still has faith in. I hate that. And there are enough smart people involved in it to change it, but will they? Who knows? They seem happy taking their fictional wins.
It's cool that you care. But it's counterproductive to lash out at people who you believe to have uninformed takes. There's so much wrestling out there at the moment, I love to pick and choose what I watch. It's suppose to be entertaining, not something that causes such stress. Like everything in life, wrestling's going to evolve and change. Whether we like it or not. Personally, I love the idea of RAW housing the best technicians. I don't care if people tune out and the ratings tank. I couldn't care less as long as it is compelling stuff.
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It's cool that you care. But it's counterproductive to lash out at people who you believe to have uninformed takes. There's so much wrestling out there at the moment, I love to pick and choose what I watch. It's suppose to be entertaining, not something that causes such stress. Like everything in life, wrestling's going to evolve and change. Whether we like it or not. Personally, I love the idea of RAW housing the best technicians. I don't care if people tune out and the ratings tank. I couldn't care less as long as it is compelling stuff.
It doesn’t cause me stress at all. That’s why I’m annoyed. Because I should care way more. And being uninformed is fine. But when you’re a prick and uninformed? I’ll call a spade a spade on that one.
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Apparently they did further drafts during Talking Smack.


Raw

* Nia Jax
* Doudrop
* Zelina Vega (brand change)
* John Morrison
* WWE 24/7 champion Reggie
* R-Truth
* Drake Maverick
* T-Bar
* Akira Tozawa
* Alpha Academy (brand change)
* Apollo Crews and Commander Azeez (brand change)

SmackDown

* Toni Storm
* Aliyah (NXT call-up)
* Mace (brand change)
* Drew Gulak (brand change)
* Mustafa Ali and Mansoor (brand change)

No idea why Raw got twice as many picks as SmackDown. No idea why Mace & T-Bar are the only team to not be drafted together (so far). I was hoping they’d just moved Dijakovic to SmackDown and start again. Aliyah is truely awful.
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Positive could be it removes him from the 24/7 bullshit.
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Yeah, I guess that’s true.

Raw should have just had a Gulak vs. Thatcher match next week to wash that away.
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It doesn’t cause me stress at all. That’s why I’m annoyed. Because I should care way more. And being uninformed is fine. But when you’re a prick and uninformed? I’ll call a spade a spade on that one.
I don't think that's healthy. It's like faking it?

Not everyone is combative here. Simply not true. I don't adhere to scoops and all popular trends. Still civil and friendly.
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Maybe T-Bar can go back to being Dijakovic (he won’t be Dominik with Mysterio there), that guy is really good and deserved better than being in that terrible ass RETRIBUTION stable
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