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Old 10-02-2021, 04:29 PM   #81
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Tiny l'il Orange Cassidy winning with a Superman Punch.... seems like a move a small guy shouldn't win with...
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Old 10-02-2021, 04:31 PM   #82
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OC and Matt Hardy fighting for a world title shot.... makes sense....
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Old 10-02-2021, 04:32 PM   #83
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Overall not a great show. Was what it was I guess.
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Why would Daniel Bryan not be included in a match to find out the #1 contender..... the whole "sometimes records matter" thing?
Yeah, it’s terrible booking.
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Old 10-02-2021, 05:59 PM   #85
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Why would Daniel Bryan not be included in a match to find out the #1 contender..... the whole "sometimes records matter" thing?
I am guessing he will be one of the two jokers in the ladder match
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Old 10-02-2021, 06:06 PM   #86
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Is it because they think if they opened the show with this that any potential new viewers would turn it off?
I'd assume it was because of the stip since it made the match more special than the other two which were just normal matches.

Plus crowds really love watching Orange whenever he's around on shows.
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Old 10-03-2021, 12:39 AM   #88
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Watching now... crowd seems very quiet/tired again... seems like a common problem with the Rampage tapings after Dynamite
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Decent little match.... good showing for Bryan, even though I feel like maybe every match of his shouldn't be so "hard fought"....
lol he took like 3-quarters of the match from Jackson, who is pushed as a top-ish guy.
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<600k for Rampage. Those are some NXT-like numbers.
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Old 10-04-2021, 10:13 AM   #91
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I have taken the absolute biggest break from watching wrestling ever. Can’t remember the last show I actually watched. Probably highlights from SmackDown or something. I watched an individual clip from Dynamite, which was an awkward promo between Omega and Danielson where they kept saying “shit.”

Not very good anymore. And it doesn’t seem to be getting better.

And with all that, I’m still one of the most valuable posters here. Keeping the job squad in line and making sure people’s bad takes don’t get past without a scalding.
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622k for Rampage. So Grand Slam did way more damage than good.
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If you think about it, putting that main event on first is probably a fine cap for two hours of wrestling on a Friday night. It’s like the frosting on a Roman Reigns/Paul Heyman cupcake. It might serve them better to put on something to just whet the appetite at 10pm to try and keep people hanging on, even though the logic seems to be start off stronger earlier.

And never, ever do a two-hour show that late on a night with an earlier two hours again.
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To be fair, the only time that would be worse for AEW than 10pm on a Friday Night is 8pm on a Friday night.
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7pm Friday might be better for them. Try and get ahead of SmackDown. They’re airing Shazam! this week in that slot. So it’s a movie block. Just try and sneak in 7-8pm in there, then push the movie back to go against SmackDown (which it kind of is anyway). An 8pm movie slot seems marketable too.

I dunno, they probably don’t have the pull for that. Hence the slot in the first place.
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Why are they doing Dark AND Elevation still? It’s so much content that just tires everybody out and stretches attention. I can understand doing a match/presentation for YouTube. Do an interview or two. Maybe a prelim match. Then a spotlight match. Get out of town. You can tape it before Dynamite.

Too much content.
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They're taping Dark separately from Universal Studios now, which is good... Helps a lot of the roster get some "reps" in... but yeah I've never seen the point of Dark: Elevation in addition to Dark... basically the same show with squash matches, pointless to have two of them
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I get that guys need to work, but I think they may be better outsourcing talent to places like the NWA than doing Dark in such a long format. I can understand the YouTube show idea, honestly. Make it an hour, feature guys who can work against green guys, film it in the studio and maybe do one match from the arena.
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They're taping Dark separately from Universal Studios now, which is good... Helps a lot of the roster get some "reps" in... but yeah I've never seen the point of Dark: Elevation in addition to Dark... basically the same show with squash matches, pointless to have two of them
They have 3 hours of TV and don’t do house shows. Have another 3 hours of TV for YouTube helps get their whole roster more reps and helps the younger inexperienced guys learn to work in front of a camera without the pressure of being live or on actual TV. I practically like it. It’s good background noise and it serves a purpose.
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The problem for the past couple of weeks though is that the crowd seems really tired and way more quiet for Rampage after being "fired up" on Dynamite, which ends up hurting Rampage
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Is Rampage the more important show? I would have thought it was still Dynamite.

I think stretching your content out is just going to have negative effects any way you cut it. There’s only so much emphasis you can place on different things. Interest is a finite resource. Even if you make Rampage more effective, I think that’s going to take away from Dynamite, because it’s just so much content.
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I don’t think Dark or Elevation help either. Or Rhodes to the Top, for that matter. Even auxiliary content in different genres is just demanding too much of even a loyal audience.

I don’t know if they HAD to do Rampage. You heard it when the TV deal was upgraded. TNT was getting more content on the cheap. But it feels way too ambitious to me. Focus on doing one show that is your priority content. Once a week. Be firm. Even if you get paid less for it, there’s just more chance for overall growth. Especially in a marketplace that is ALREADY flooded with content. So many people still watch WWE. That’s just more hours a week a fan has to devote.

But I guess they may not have had a choice, which is why I think it was important to be way hotter earlier — because then you have more leverage in those sorts of negotiations. It’s kind of like where Bischoff found himself with WCW. But because Warner owned the promotion, they just had to do it. At least Khan could have had the advantage of owning AEW and being like “No, seriously guys. This is a bad idea. Here are historical examples. Let’s build this show first and if there is ever proper timing for a second show, we can do it then.”
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Is Rampage the more important show? I would have thought it was still Dynamite.

I think stretching your content out is just going to have negative effects any way you cut it. There’s only so much emphasis you can place on different things. Interest is a finite resource. Even if you make Rampage more effective, I think that’s going to take away from Dynamite, because it’s just so much content.
More important than Dark: Elevation*, not Dynamite

And yeah I agree tbh... too much content could lead to burn out and/or Dynamite being watered down... It's not as bad as having 3 hours of Raw all at once, but same idea on a smaller scale imo...
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The problem for the past couple of weeks though is that the crowd seems really tired and way more quiet for Rampage after being "fired up" on Dynamite, which ends up hurting Rampage (their more important show)
I don’t trust the crowd noise on the taped shows. It’s been brought before that the crowd sounds muted or muffled. It sounds the same on the YouTube shows. For whatever reason AEW taped shows sound like shit.

I see the crowd go ape shit on Dark for Thunder Rosa but I can barely hear them.
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Old 10-05-2021, 01:46 AM   #106
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AEW live shows usually sound terrible too.

Before improving any other production aspect they really need to work on that.
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I’ll take the live feed audio over their taped shows any day of the week.
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AEW live shows usually sound terrible too.

Before improving any other production aspect they really need to work on that.
This has been an issue from the start, hasn’t it? I don’t get how a company with so much money and some legit legends of wrestling production can’t get this one area right. I’m not even saying that snarkily — I actually don’t understand how there isn’t a money wand that can be waved to fix it.

At least they’re not making the ridiculous directorial cuts WWE makes. It’s a hilarious image to imagine Kevin Dunn actually calling the cuts between two cameras as Drew McIntyre swings a chair down on Shanky or whatever. I want to see that footage so bad.
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Their sound definitely sucks. Just like WCW's sound sucked too. Definitely don't have the audio ear of Lock Jaw - Reporter Extraordinare, but it is very noticeable. Music never loud enough.
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I really like AEW, by far the best wrestling on TV!
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I have taken the absolute biggest break from watching wrestling ever. Can’t remember the last show I actually watched. Probably highlights from SmackDown or something. I watched an individual clip from Dynamite, which was an awkward promo between Omega and Danielson where they kept saying “shit.”

Not very good anymore. And it doesn’t seem to be getting better.

And with all that, I’m still one of the most valuable posters here. Keeping the job squad in line and making sure people’s bad takes don’t get past without a scalding.
...so you admit that you don't watch the shows but still have the need to shit on anything and everything because people like something you don't (even though you don't watch it).
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I really like AEW, by far the best wrestling on TV!
I'm growing to enjoy it more.
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...so you admit that you don't watch the shows but still have the need to shit on anything and everything because people like something you don't (even though you don't watch it).
The shows are unwatchable dude. It’s the shows fault. And there’s evidence in the data that shows this shit ain’t sticky. Which is what I usually talk about.

Does everyone here watch all three hours of Raw. Who the fuck would do that? And why is it cool to shit on WWE but not AEW? It’s only when it’s AEW that people go up in arms about it. WWE has been shit for years and years and it’s fine to tear them apart for it.

Wrestling is bad, which is why people don’t watch. Which is why wrestling fans are frustrated at it. Not that hard to get. This whole “Don’t say anything then, wah!” mentality is all really new.
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No it's not unwatchable for me especially since they started touring again. I look forward to the shows and at least half the time I watch them (pretty much every week) I really enjoy it. Sometimes it's not "the best show they've ever done" but even that kind of show feels a lot more entertaining than any other product out there.

Dynamite is awesome!
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Also the reason the Rampage rating was a little low was cause all us AEW dudes were out Friday night gettin our DICKS SUCKED ON. We had a build up after Arthur Ashe and brother let me tell you that went right on upstate to Rochester and we all got hard for Brodie Lee and we could only stand it but another day before we had let it out and we all have DVR so we set that up from start to finish and went out and got OUR DICKS SUCKED ON.
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