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Old 11-16-2021, 06:47 PM   #1
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But their model has always been "build around 1 top babyface". It's a model that has worked for them financially for years.

They are also making money hand over fist.
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Old 11-17-2021, 04:46 AM   #2
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But their model has always been "build around 1 top babyface". It's a model that has worked for them financially for years.

They are also making money hand over fist.
Yeah, and you can’t exactly call John Cena and Roman Reigns failures. Ratings may not have held great under Cena, but the entire PG beautification of the WWE was done under him. In some ways, he’s as important as Hulk Hogan and Steve Austin.

I don’t think he really cares if Keith Lee gets over or not. And that may not be to every fan’s taste, but it’s not really pertinent to the genius debate, unless you want to strongly argue that a variety of acts being over would make a better model. In which case, I would point out the WWE does have a variety of acts that are over, to some degree.
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Old 11-17-2021, 10:48 AM   #3
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Yeah, and you can’t exactly call John Cena and Roman Reigns failures.
If Reigns was succeeding as the top babyface he’d still be a babyface.
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Old 11-17-2021, 12:19 PM   #4
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If Reigns was succeeding as the top babyface he’d still be a babyface.
Reigns didn’t get great reactions from live crowds. Business takes a hit whenever he’s not there though. He’s a legitimate star with no full-time peer in wrestling.
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I don’t know that there’s any evidence linking Reigns not being there to a dip in business. But you were responding to Gertner’s post so I assumed you were talking about him not being a failure as the “1 top babyface” the company builds around.

They’re currently not using that model because Reigns didn’t work out in the role. Neither has McIntyre or Rollins or Braun or any of the faces they’ve put over their legit stars. Cena was the last one.
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Old 11-17-2021, 02:40 PM   #6
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I don’t know that there’s any evidence linking Reigns not being there to a dip in business. But you were responding to Gertner’s post so I assumed you were talking about him not being a failure as the “1 top babyface” the company builds around.

They’re currently not using that model because Reigns didn’t work out in the role. Neither has McIntyre or Rollins or Braun or any of the faces they’ve put over their legit stars. Cena was the last one.
I was adding onto Gertner’s point, which was about how the WWF/E has been traditionally built around 1 top babyface, which was simply a response as to why it isn’t crucial there are 180 super-protected people running around. It doesn’t really speak to exceptions to the rule at all.

Reigns is used to spike business now, and Raw was greatly hurt when Roman took his health leave. The jury is still out on McIntyre. The show is still obviously being built around Roman Reigns though. There’s still one gimmick they focus on/protect the shit out of.
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