Clerks 2 is on.

**Champion of Europa** · 08-28-2004, 02:50 AM

Credit: www.joblo.com

We've talked about it, we've hypothesized over it, we've even emailed writer/director Kevin Smith drunk in the middle of the night, begging him to re-visit Dante and Randal from Red Bank's own Quick Stop convenience store and today comes word that Smith is indeed working on a sequel to his break-out hit, CLERKS, tentatively entitled THE PASSION OF THE CLERKS (uuuhmm, you might want to change that trendy title though) I'm about as happy as a little girl to hear that Smith will be going back to his roots with this film, which would pick up 10 years after the first one ended (thank God he didn't keep that original ending, eh?) and would apparently start filming as early as January 2005, with Miramax distributing. Here's what Smith himself had to say about it:

"It's about what happens when that lazy, 20-something malaise lasts into your 30s. Those dudes are kind of still mired, not in that same exact situation, but in a place where it's time to actually grow up and do something more than just sit around and dissect pop culture and talk about sex. It's: What happened to these dudes?"

Both Brian O'Halloran (Dante) and Jeff Anderson (Randal) have already signed on for the sequel, with Smith's alter-ego of Silent Bob and his stoner buddy Jay, returning as well. It will be interesting to see how Smith plays Jason Mewes' real-life drug problems into the story-line. For anyone who thinks this is Smith's way of making even more moolah, he insists that not to be true, estimating the new film's budget to be somewhere between $250,000 and $5M (the original reportedly only cost him $27,000, part of which he raised by selling his comic book collection) This film would now be at the top of his "to do" list, as he continues to write the screenplay for THE GREEN HORNET, a film which he will likely not direct anymore.

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Neato.

**Buzzkill** · 08-28-2004, 02:59 AM

awesome

**Boondock Saint** · 08-28-2004, 03:10 AM

Hahaa, just came here to post this. Weird.

But yeah, I'm happy. Definitly want it to happen. I mean I think we all saw this coming a mile away.

What kinda bothers me is that his first movie not dealing with this "universe", Jersey Girl, was somewhat of a disappointment financially (I haven't seen it yet). So he then goes right back to this stuff? But hey, if it ain't broke don't fix it.

All we have is a short snippet of the film's premise so I won't judge it yet. Obviously won't be as good as the original, but this deserves to be made and will at least be a worthy sequel, IMO.

I'm all for it. Clerks Cartoon movie would rule too.

**FakeLaser** · 08-28-2004, 03:32 AM

Clerks is one of my all time favorite movies, I hope the sequel is awesome.

Bo · 08-28-2004, 04:24 AM

Sweet.

**ColdwaVer** · 08-28-2004, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Champion of Europa

...which would pick up 10 years after the first one ended (thank God he didn't keep that original ending, eh?)

This is what drives me crazy about people: who the hell says that Dante had to have been killed in that scene, anyways? Like nobody has ever survived being shot before?

Aside from that, Kevin Smith has a huge problem to overcome here: if he does it in B&W again, he'll be called pretentious, and if he does it in color, people will yell about it not being in B&W.

Anyways, this should be good.

**Shaggy** · 08-28-2004, 11:05 AM

I hope this movie turns out as good as the others. I think it will be interesting to see Jay and Silent Bob again since Strike Back was suppose to be the last appearance of them. I never saw Jersey Girl so I dont know if they were in that one. I like the name the way it is. I say keep it. Who cares if it rips on Gibsons movie. Look at south park. They have that DVD coming out called Passion of the Jews. It that makes fun of Gibson himself.

I do remember talk about another Clerks movie being made and being done in animation. I heard that they worked on it for a while but never got all the way into it. I it will be interesting to see how they come from that. I loved the animated series even though it didnt last but this might be worth seeing.

**Champion of Europa** · 08-28-2004, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaggy

I hope this movie turns out as good as the others. I think it will be interesting to see Jay and Silent Bob again since Strike Back was suppose to be the last appearance of them. I never saw Jersey Girl so I dont know if they were in that one. I like the name the way it is. I say keep it. Who cares if it rips on Gibsons movie. Look at south park. They have that DVD coming out called Passion of the Jews. It that makes fun of Gibson himself.

The South Park thing worked because it was in the time frame of the Passion of the Christ.

Clerks won't work because it will be over a year since The Passion even came out.

**MVP** · 08-28-2004, 06:31 PM

Should be interesting to say the least. Thrilled to hear that Jay and Silent Bob are returning to the big screen.

When I first saw this thread I thought it was talking about JSBSB because taht was originally supposed to be Clerks 2.

**PoisonIvy** · 08-28-2004, 06:35 PM

Sweet.

**Disturbed316** · 08-28-2004, 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ColdwaVer

This is what drives me crazy about people: who the hell says that Dante had to have been killed in that scene, anyways? Like nobody has ever survived being shot before?

Aside from that, Kevin Smith has a huge problem to overcome here: if he does it in B&W again, he'll be called pretentious, and if he does it in color, people will yell about it not being in B&W.

Anyways, this should be good.

Didn't he get shot in the head though? Quite hard to survive that.

Anyway, I loved Clerks and hopefully this one will be just as good.

**AareDub** · 08-28-2004, 07:12 PM

Sounds cool. I'm sure I'll go see it.

On a side note, am I the only one that saw Jersey Girl?

(for the record, I enjoyed it)

**Hardkore Kidd J** · 09-03-2004, 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaggy

I hope this movie turns out as good as the others. I think it will be interesting to see Jay and Silent Bob again since Strike Back was suppose to be the last appearance of them. I never saw Jersey Girl so I dont know if they were in that one. I like the name the way it is. I say keep it. Who cares if it rips on Gibsons movie. Look at south park. They have that DVD coming out called Passion of the Jews. It that makes fun of Gibson himself.

I do remember talk about another Clerks movie being made and being done in animation. I heard that they worked on it for a while but never got all the way into it. I it will be interesting to see how they come from that. I loved the animated series even though it didnt last but this might be worth seeing.

I am glad they are making a Clerks 2. I loved Jay and Silent strike back, Clerks, and my personal favorite Mallrats. BTW Jay and Silent Bob were not in Jersey Girl it was supposed to be something entirely different from Kevin Smith. SO that was kind of a disappointment but Liv Tyler being in the movie

that made up for it. Damn, she is hot.

**Azriel** · 09-03-2004, 11:47 AM

and besides, the scene where he was shot was an alternate ending, so it doesn't really count.

**Champion of Europa** · 09-03-2004, 07:55 PM

More info on "The Passion of the Clerks", in Kevin Smith's exact words from his message board:

- This isn't gonna be a cameo-heavy affair, a'la "Strike Back." The only returning characters are Dante and Randal, and Jay and Silent Bob.

- This isn't gonna be a star-studded affair. The biggest names in the cast are gonna be Brian O'Halloran, Jeff Anderson, and Jason Mewes.

- This isn't an "I'm not even supposed to be here today... AGAIN!"-heavy, wink-wink affair. We barely refer to the first flick (though I do love Lynch's proposed tagline of "They Still Don't Like You"; considering the tone of the script, an even more appropriate tagline would be "They Like You Even Less").

- Jay and Silent Bob have about as much screen time as they had in "Clerks." This is Dante and Randal's flick all the way.

- The title makes sense. Sure, there's a bit of cheekiness in there, but it's pretty appropriate, based on the material.

- This is the funniest thing I've ever written. It's also really poignant.

- We'll still be making a "Clerks" cartoon movie, separate of this.

- This is not a grab at the green. Saying so is kinda laughable, if you're privy to what I make per film now, vs. what I'll make for this film. Part of the idea about doing "Passion" is to strip away the trappings of success we've been enjoying for the last few years, in an effort to get to the raw and pure. None of us are making our usual salaries on this flick; we're all doing it favored-nations style, with deferments. If the flick does well, we'll get paid our full-freight on the back-end. If not, we did it for the love. But if I was "all about the green", I'd be gearing up for "Hornet" or "Fletch" instead. This one's about the passion; the passion of the "Clerks."

- Some of the key players from the "Clerks" saga who've already read the 143 page first draft: Mos, Jeff, Brian, John Pierson, Bob Hawk. Jay's reading the new, refined 119 page second draft this week. Once they were all on board, any doubt or hesitation I might've felt about monkeying with the original's legacy disappeared completely.

- This isn't about "Jersey Girl." While disappointed that we didn't do double the theatrical business we crawled to, I understand why what happened to that flick happened (considering how poorly "Gigli" did, I consider us kinda lucky that we got to 25m). If this is a reaction to anything, it's more of a reaction to "Green Hornet", and the trajectory my budgets have been taking lately. Before (and if) I direct "Hornet", I wanted to do something small and more me-like. While working on the "Clerks X" dvd, it became clear to me that "Passion" was the way to go.

- We almost did this flick three years ago, instead of "Strike Back." I'm glad we didn't, because I was able to say much more now than I would've then.

- There are gonna be lots of folks expressing disappointment or downright hostility with the idea of this movie. Let 'em vent. If it's all that bad, Xtian will just sweep it off the board. But the last thing I'm interested in is opinions on what I'm doing this early in the process, if at all. The beauty of making that first flick was being able to do it in a vacuum. Granted, I could've kept my mouth shut about it 'til we were done shooting; but with "Clerks X" coming out, it just felt right to share. Regardless - I don't want folks running here with reports of what's being said about the idea of this film at other boards. Don't waste your/my time with the braying of the jackasses. There's not even a movie to bray about yet. Once there is, if you still still feel the need to tell me what some random, knuckle-headed Talk Backer has to say about the finished product, then God bless. But until then, leave it in the locker room.

- Oh, who am I kidding? This flick makes me so happy, I'm not even bothered by the bitching (could still be even happier without it, though). I'm in love with this flick. If other folks aren't, I can't really say I'm concerned. I've read the script; they haven't. I have the benefit of insight into the flick beyond the title and the notion of it; they don't. The reaction is pretty much what I thought it'd be: a ton of positive, and minimal amount of bitching. Even if the equation was reversed, I'd still feel as good as I do now.

- At this point in my life, this flick makes absolute fucking sense.

- I can't wait to shoot it, and I can't wait 'til you all see it.

- That storyline about Dante and Randal shooting a movie about working at the Quick Stop is the plot of the "Clerks" CARTOON movie. It's secure. The plot of "PotC" is something completely different.

- The flick does NOT employ the tone of the "Clerks" cartoon. It's OG "Clerks" all the way.

- The flick's in both black & white and color.

- Having not seen "South Park" since season two (unless you count the movie), I was unaware they did an episode called "The Passion of the Jew." I don't know how (or if) this info will affect our title.

- There will be no "reunions" or "crossovers" in the flick. Again - the only characters returning are Dante, Randal, Jay, and Bob.

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NICE.

**#1-norm-fan** · 09-04-2004, 05:18 AM

Chasing Amy is one of my favorite movies of all time and I liked Jay and Slient Bob Strike Back and Dogma but never really wanted to see Clerks for some reason. I finally watched it when it was on TV a few weeks back and it was fucking GREAT. I have a shitload of faith in Kevin Smith now. There is no way this can go badly.

**DaveWadding** · 09-04-2004, 05:35 AM

I saw Jay and Silent Bob..and I didnt really like it...of course, I should probably see Clerks etc and then watch uit again..but I'm too damn lazy.

**RemyRed** · 09-04-2004, 07:30 AM

So there's no Kaitlyn or Veronica? Not a big loss but some funny-as-hell moments did stem from those two.

**MVP** · 09-05-2004, 01:45 AM

Glad to hear Kevin Smith is going back to his roots and not selling out to the man by having a bunch of big name Hollywood cameos in every scene; it's all about the clerks, and that's why the first one is the best movie he's done so far even though I liked all of them.

08-28-2004, 02:50 AM	#1
Champion of Europa SEX APPEAL Posts: 13,830	Clerks 2 is on. Credit: www.joblo.com We've talked about it, we've hypothesized over it, we've even emailed writer/director Kevin Smith drunk in the middle of the night, begging him to re-visit Dante and Randal from Red Bank's own Quick Stop convenience store and today comes word that Smith is indeed working on a sequel to his break-out hit, CLERKS, tentatively entitled THE PASSION OF THE CLERKS (uuuhmm, you might want to change that trendy title though) I'm about as happy as a little girl to hear that Smith will be going back to his roots with this film, which would pick up 10 years after the first one ended (thank God he didn't keep that original ending, eh?) and would apparently start filming as early as January 2005, with Miramax distributing. Here's what Smith himself had to say about it: "It's about what happens when that lazy, 20-something malaise lasts into your 30s. Those dudes are kind of still mired, not in that same exact situation, but in a place where it's time to actually grow up and do something more than just sit around and dissect pop culture and talk about sex. It's: What happened to these dudes?" Both Brian O'Halloran (Dante) and Jeff Anderson (Randal) have already signed on for the sequel, with Smith's alter-ego of Silent Bob and his stoner buddy Jay, returning as well. It will be interesting to see how Smith plays Jason Mewes' real-life drug problems into the story-line. For anyone who thinks this is Smith's way of making even more moolah, he insists that not to be true, estimating the new film's budget to be somewhere between $250,000 and $5M (the original reportedly only cost him $27,000, part of which he raised by selling his comic book collection) This film would now be at the top of his "to do" list, as he continues to write the screenplay for THE GREEN HORNET, a film which he will likely not direct anymore. ------------ Neato.

08-28-2004, 02:59 AM	#2
Buzzkill Jamiroquai Bodega Posts: 18,627	awesome

08-28-2004, 03:10 AM	#3
Boondock Saint Posts: 8,795	Hahaa, just came here to post this. Weird. But yeah, I'm happy. Definitly want it to happen. I mean I think we all saw this coming a mile away. What kinda bothers me is that his first movie not dealing with this "universe", Jersey Girl, was somewhat of a disappointment financially (I haven't seen it yet). So he then goes right back to this stuff? But hey, if it ain't broke don't fix it. All we have is a short snippet of the film's premise so I won't judge it yet. Obviously won't be as good as the original, but this deserves to be made and will at least be a worthy sequel, IMO. I'm all for it. Clerks Cartoon movie would rule too.

08-28-2004, 03:32 AM	#4
FakeLaser continental drift Posts: 46,731	Clerks is one of my all time favorite movies, I hope the sequel is awesome.

08-28-2004, 11:05 AM	#7
Shaggy Yipee Kai Yay!!! Posts: 5,705	I hope this movie turns out as good as the others. I think it will be interesting to see Jay and Silent Bob again since Strike Back was suppose to be the last appearance of them. I never saw Jersey Girl so I dont know if they were in that one. I like the name the way it is. I say keep it. Who cares if it rips on Gibsons movie. Look at south park. They have that DVD coming out called Passion of the Jews. It that makes fun of Gibson himself. I do remember talk about another Clerks movie being made and being done in animation. I heard that they worked on it for a while but never got all the way into it. I it will be interesting to see how they come from that. I loved the animated series even though it didnt last but this might be worth seeing.

08-28-2004, 06:31 PM	#9
MVP Mas Vagina Porfavor Posts: 11,343	Should be interesting to say the least. Thrilled to hear that Jay and Silent Bob are returning to the big screen. When I first saw this thread I thought it was talking about JSBSB because taht was originally supposed to be Clerks 2.

08-28-2004, 06:35 PM	#10
PoisonIvy Slackette Posts: 9,928	Sweet.

08-28-2004, 07:12 PM	#12
AareDub I Hate Bottles Posts: 4,362	Sounds cool. I'm sure I'll go see it. On a side note, am I the only one that saw Jersey Girl? (for the record, I enjoyed it)

09-03-2004, 11:47 AM	#14
Azriel The Caption Crippler Posts: 8,855	and besides, the scene where he was shot was an alternate ending, so it doesn't really count.

09-03-2004, 07:55 PM	#15
Champion of Europa SEX APPEAL Posts: 13,830	More info on "The Passion of the Clerks", in Kevin Smith's exact words from his message board: - This isn't gonna be a cameo-heavy affair, a'la "Strike Back." The only returning characters are Dante and Randal, and Jay and Silent Bob. - This isn't gonna be a star-studded affair. The biggest names in the cast are gonna be Brian O'Halloran, Jeff Anderson, and Jason Mewes. - This isn't an "I'm not even supposed to be here today... AGAIN!"-heavy, wink-wink affair. We barely refer to the first flick (though I do love Lynch's proposed tagline of "They Still Don't Like You"; considering the tone of the script, an even more appropriate tagline would be "They Like You Even Less"). - Jay and Silent Bob have about as much screen time as they had in "Clerks." This is Dante and Randal's flick all the way. - The title makes sense. Sure, there's a bit of cheekiness in there, but it's pretty appropriate, based on the material. - This is the funniest thing I've ever written. It's also really poignant. - We'll still be making a "Clerks" cartoon movie, separate of this. - This is not a grab at the green. Saying so is kinda laughable, if you're privy to what I make per film now, vs. what I'll make for this film. Part of the idea about doing "Passion" is to strip away the trappings of success we've been enjoying for the last few years, in an effort to get to the raw and pure. None of us are making our usual salaries on this flick; we're all doing it favored-nations style, with deferments. If the flick does well, we'll get paid our full-freight on the back-end. If not, we did it for the love. But if I was "all about the green", I'd be gearing up for "Hornet" or "Fletch" instead. This one's about the passion; the passion of the "Clerks." - Some of the key players from the "Clerks" saga who've already read the 143 page first draft: Mos, Jeff, Brian, John Pierson, Bob Hawk. Jay's reading the new, refined 119 page second draft this week. Once they were all on board, any doubt or hesitation I might've felt about monkeying with the original's legacy disappeared completely. - This isn't about "Jersey Girl." While disappointed that we didn't do double the theatrical business we crawled to, I understand why what happened to that flick happened (considering how poorly "Gigli" did, I consider us kinda lucky that we got to 25m). If this is a reaction to anything, it's more of a reaction to "Green Hornet", and the trajectory my budgets have been taking lately. Before (and if) I direct "Hornet", I wanted to do something small and more me-like. While working on the "Clerks X" dvd, it became clear to me that "Passion" was the way to go. - We almost did this flick three years ago, instead of "Strike Back." I'm glad we didn't, because I was able to say much more now than I would've then. - There are gonna be lots of folks expressing disappointment or downright hostility with the idea of this movie. Let 'em vent. If it's all that bad, Xtian will just sweep it off the board. But the last thing I'm interested in is opinions on what I'm doing this early in the process, if at all. The beauty of making that first flick was being able to do it in a vacuum. Granted, I could've kept my mouth shut about it 'til we were done shooting; but with "Clerks X" coming out, it just felt right to share. Regardless - I don't want folks running here with reports of what's being said about the idea of this film at other boards. Don't waste your/my time with the braying of the jackasses. There's not even a movie to bray about yet. Once there is, if you still still feel the need to tell me what some random, knuckle-headed Talk Backer has to say about the finished product, then God bless. But until then, leave it in the locker room. - Oh, who am I kidding? This flick makes me so happy, I'm not even bothered by the bitching (could still be even happier without it, though). I'm in love with this flick. If other folks aren't, I can't really say I'm concerned. I've read the script; they haven't. I have the benefit of insight into the flick beyond the title and the notion of it; they don't. The reaction is pretty much what I thought it'd be: a ton of positive, and minimal amount of bitching. Even if the equation was reversed, I'd still feel as good as I do now. - At this point in my life, this flick makes absolute fucking sense. - I can't wait to shoot it, and I can't wait 'til you all see it. - That storyline about Dante and Randal shooting a movie about working at the Quick Stop is the plot of the "Clerks" CARTOON movie. It's secure. The plot of "PotC" is something completely different. - The flick does NOT employ the tone of the "Clerks" cartoon. It's OG "Clerks" all the way. - The flick's in both black & white and color. - Having not seen "South Park" since season two (unless you count the movie), I was unaware they did an episode called "The Passion of the Jew." I don't know how (or if) this info will affect our title. - There will be no "reunions" or "crossovers" in the flick. Again - the only characters returning are Dante, Randal, Jay, and Bob. ---------------------------- NICE.

08-28-2004, 04:24 AM	#5
Bo Bo Knows Posts: 2,786	Sweet.

09-04-2004, 05:18 AM	#16
#1-norm-fan Resident drug enabler Posts: 45,473	Chasing Amy is one of my favorite movies of all time and I liked Jay and Slient Bob Strike Back and Dogma but never really wanted to see Clerks for some reason. I finally watched it when it was on TV a few weeks back and it was fucking GREAT. I have a shitload of faith in Kevin Smith now. There is no way this can go badly.

09-04-2004, 05:35 AM	#17
DaveWadding LIMITLESS Posts: 32,276	I saw Jay and Silent Bob..and I didnt really like it...of course, I should probably see Clerks etc and then watch uit again..but I'm too damn lazy.

09-04-2004, 07:30 AM	#18
RemyRed My Opinion Matters Posts: 2,435	So there's no Kaitlyn or Veronica? Not a big loss but some funny-as-hell moments did stem from those two.

09-05-2004, 01:45 AM	#19
MVP Mas Vagina Porfavor Posts: 11,343	Glad to hear Kevin Smith is going back to his roots and not selling out to the man by having a bunch of big name Hollywood cameos in every scene; it's all about the clerks, and that's why the first one is the best movie he's done so far even though I liked all of them.