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Old 09-19-2022, 06:25 PM   #41
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Id also buy it for a comeback/hope spot. 20 min in. Double down. Feed up into tired sluggish strikes. Both guys start to rally through the exhaustion. Etc
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Old 09-19-2022, 06:25 PM   #42
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But you can be out there doing that after 7 min or whatever
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Old 09-19-2022, 06:42 PM   #43
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Even in ufc, the stand and trade isn’t so contrived. Yes there’s an agreement to wing punches, but—other than on maybe very rare occurrences—is one guy waiting for the other guy to punch him with his chin out. It’s just throwing caution to the wind where they are going back and forth. I can recall a brawl or two where there’s a “bring it” moment, but that ends after one punch lands because they don’t want to get smashed clean in the jaw anymore.
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Old 09-19-2022, 06:49 PM   #44
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Even in ufc, the stand and trade isn’t so contrived. Yes there’s an agreement to wing punches, but—other than on maybe very rare occurrences—is one guy waiting for the other guy to punch him with his chin out. It’s just throwing caution to the wind where they are going back and forth. I can recall a brawl or two where there’s a “bring it” moment, but that ends after one punch lands because they don’t want to get smashed clean in the jaw anymore.
Don Frye never got this memo
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Old 09-19-2022, 06:52 PM   #45
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Don Frye never got this memo
Even Frye and Takayama were staying in the pocket with the intent to finish the fight. They were furiously trading licks trying to knock the other guy out. They weren’t hitting a still target only to become a still targe themselves and wait to get it.
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Old 09-19-2022, 06:57 PM   #46
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They were definitely still targets. Absolutely 0 head movement. But its basically just those 2 that ever did something THAT crazy.



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Old 09-19-2022, 06:58 PM   #47
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But you're right about the MURDEROUS INTENT
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Old 09-19-2022, 06:58 PM   #48
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Tbf that spot is heavily inspired by the frye bout in a lot of ways
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Old 09-19-2022, 07:01 PM   #50
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So good though. There's a million things they couldve done but they chose to ignore all of them and just become mindless murder hobos.
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Old 09-19-2022, 07:10 PM   #51
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I remember one of the things Shibata did that I can still like (I used to like the stiff headbutts until he ended his career with them) is he would take an Indy kick, get pissed off, then start work back to his feet, daring his opponent to kick him. When he got back to his feet, one more dare. He'd catch the leg and knock the piss out of them.

Also, the best pissing match is Ishii and Makabe, just lariating each other like god damned Rams.

As for actual chop wars, it was only done well one time...
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The noise when sasaki sold to the corner is everything. Its so over
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Old 09-19-2022, 08:07 PM   #55
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They were definitely still targets. Absolutely 0 head movement. But its basically just those 2 that ever did something THAT crazy.



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Takayama and Frye are still whirling dervishes. They’re not swinging and stopping and waiting to be hit. They’re just barreling forward through each other’s punches.
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Old 09-20-2022, 06:29 PM   #56
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I’ve been meaning to watch more of Don Frye’s wrestling career. YouTube seems to generate more from his fights. Any recommendations?
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Old 09-20-2022, 09:11 PM   #57
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Its not overly good. An attempt to do worked mma. None of it sticks out but i do remember he had a match with vader i didnt hate
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Old 09-20-2022, 09:19 PM   #58
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I vaguely remember a bat shit crazy german suplex
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Thanks for that recommendation. I saw that on his Cage Match listing from 2003 or something and thought it might be worth a watch.
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