This kind of stuff pisses me off

[Kane Knight]

Originally Posted by El Capitano Gatisto As well they should market those things. There are alot of people with CD collections that are unprotected, if they are going to be ripping songs off these CDs then the companies are entitled to recoup any lost revenue by selling the software that people use to copy them. I'm not aware or concerned with the US courts or a particular company's view, only that when you pay money for an album on CD, you can expect to be able to play that album on a CD player and thats it.

That's clearly not it.

Sicne Phillips, owners of the patents on CDs, says that copy protection means it's no longer a CD...That would carry with it the notion that it's expected.

You think otherwise. Well, that's your opinion. If people didn't expect a CD to do more than play music in your CD player, there wouldn't be an issue. That's the logical flaw in your "What you can expect" line.