The official MLB offseason thread! - Page 14

**The Outlaw** · 01-11-2005, 12:25 PM

lol RJ is the man

Big ass redneck but he is the man

**John la Rock** · 01-11-2005, 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrMeJW

that was uncalled for but I'm glad he apologized

can't wait to see Randy pitch at the Dome against my Jays

**VonErich Lives** · 01-11-2005, 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John la Rock

that was uncalled for but I'm glad he apologized

can't wait to see Randy pitch at the Dome against my Jays

Can't wait for opening day in Fenway Park.

Just hope Schill is healthy...

Schill v. Johnson, opening day at fenway, sox get the rings and raise the flag...

**Loose Cannon** · 01-11-2005, 07:28 PM

NEW YORK. WHAT!!!!

**VonErich Lives** · 01-11-2005, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loose Cannon

NEW YORK. WHAT!!!!

Nice Avatar...

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 01-11-2005, 08:01 PM

How could he even be mad there. It was one camera and you just signed a 32 million dollar extension. I could see if there was tons of cameras, or they were really "invading" his space, but he was just walking down the street in public.

**Excellance of Execution** · 01-11-2005, 09:40 PM

I found this on Yahoo Sport's about Carlos Beltran's contract. Baseball Contract's make me sick!!

Beltran Contract Details

January 11, 2005
NEW YORK (AP) -- Details of the $119 million, seven-year contract Carlos Beltran and the New York Mets agreed to Tuesday:

Signing bonus-- $11 million ($7 million payable upon approval, $2 million each in January 2006 and January 2007)

2005-- $10 million

ADVERTISEMENT

2006-- $12 million

2007-- $12 million

2008-- $18.5 million, of which $8.5 million deferred

2009-- $18.5 million, of which $8.5 million deferred

2010-- $18.5 million, of which $8.5 million deferred

2011-- $18.5 million, of which $8.5 million deferred

Deferred money

Will accrue 1.17 percent compounded interest

Award bonuses

MVP-- $500,000

Second MVP-- $1 million

Third MVP and all MVPs thereafter-- $1.5 million

MVP 2nd through 5th place-- $200,000

All-Star-- $100,000

Most All-Star votes in league-- $100,000

Postseason All-Star or player of the year-- $100,000

World Series MVP-- $250,000

League championship series MVP-- $150,000

Gold Glove-- $100,000

Silver Slugger-- $100,000

Hank Aaron Award-- $100,000

Perks

Best available 15-person luxury suite for all home games

**MVP** · 01-11-2005, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Excellance of Execution

Not sure if you know, but i think they have Victor Zambrano, whom they got from Tampa Bay last year. Carlos Zambrano is still with the Cubbies.

I figured it was Victor actually.

**VonErich Lives** · 01-12-2005, 12:43 AM

Someone tell me about Shea Stadium, cause it seems every new signing has a luxury suit clause.

I loved A-rods, I think he had or tried to have a "private office" at the ball park for his/his peoples use.

**BCWWF** · 01-12-2005, 03:24 AM

Victor isn't bad though, if he is the Mets 5th starter then they have a really deep starting 5. They only have one really strong guy, but they have no real weak points.

**Evil Vito** · 01-12-2005, 12:17 PM

Yeah, Victor did great in his only full start as a Met, so I'm not too worried.

I haven't noticed many control problems in said start, but hopefully Rick Peterson can cure them if they're still there.

**Loose Cannon** · 01-12-2005, 12:45 PM

I don't know. The Mets rotation seems shakey to me. You got Glavine, who's hasn't pitched well the last two seasons. You got Benson, who's not the most realiable guy. And then Zambrano is another ?. The rotation looks decent on paper, but I can see it just collapsing.

**BCWWF** · 01-12-2005, 03:32 PM

Look who's talking though

**Loose Cannon** · 01-12-2005, 04:24 PM

yeah, but when you have an offense that can score 15 runs a game, I can talk

**BCWWF** · 01-12-2005, 05:41 PM

Touche

**The Outlaw** · 01-13-2005, 01:04 AM

Glavine has had like one bad year the past 5. Which was 2003. Last year he pitched very well from what I remember. 3.60 ERA or so, that isn't too bad.

**DaveWadding** · 01-13-2005, 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loose Cannon

yeah, but when you have an offense that can score 15 runs a game, I can talk

Hey, when the Yankees start scoring 15 a game, call me.

**Loose Cannon** · 01-13-2005, 05:44 PM

hmmm, thinking about taking a trip home April 3rd.

**MVP** · 01-13-2005, 11:00 PM

Mets now looking to obtain Delgado.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/wire?...mlb&id=1966460

He's worth at least $100 mil this year. I'm surprised to see the Mets capitalizing on so many valuable free agents. I doubt it's gonna help them out in the long run. Marlins are also looking at Delgado, I'm curious to see where this goes.

**Yashamaga** · 01-14-2005, 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loose Cannon

I don't know. The Mets rotation seems shakey to me. You got Glavine, who's hasn't pitched well the last two seasons. You got Benson, who's not the most realiable guy. And then Zambrano is another ?. The rotation looks decent on paper, but I can see it just collapsing.

Glavine had a very good year

**BCWWF** · 01-21-2005, 08:38 PM

It looks like Delgado got a real good offer from Texas now. If he goes they have a real, real solid batting order, but they still need to address their pitching inadequacies. I heard in the past they might trade Soriano for pitching, if they got Delgado and moved Taxiera to second or else short and moved Young back to second...I dunno

**John la Rock** · 01-25-2005, 08:42 PM

Delgado has signed with the Florida Marlins, 4 year 52 Million

**BCWWF** · 01-25-2005, 09:07 PM

I kind of wish he'd gone to Texas, but meh. Twins singed some new minor league pitcher today!!!!!!!!!!!!

**House of Pancakes** · 01-25-2005, 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yashamaga

Glavine had a very good year

no, glavine had a very good half-year, then realized he was 39 and fell apart in the second half.

**FakeLaser** · 01-25-2005, 09:25 PM

Florida is gonna be the shit this year, well, if their pitching stays healthy. Pretty sick lineup. Beckett, Burnett, Willis, Leiter and Valdez is a pretty decent rotation too. Could take the NL East.

**BCWWF** · 01-25-2005, 09:28 PM

Oh I forgot about them, the Mets are going to have to overachieve

**Terra Ryzin** · 01-26-2005, 01:27 AM

reports are Mets and Sox have a deal to send Doug Mientkiewicz to NY for a for a Class A minor leager.

I like the move. It adds a great defensive 1b to a young infeild of Wright, Reyes and Matsui. They should be fun to watch together.

**BCWWF** · 01-26-2005, 02:03 AM

You are the first guy I've seen who spells it right!

Anyway, I liked Mienkie on the BoSox, I'm not seeing him in the Mets uniform yet. I look at a guy like Doug as a gruff scrappy ball player and I look at the Mets as a civilized big city team. They should trade him again to the Indians or Reds.

**Astley316** · 01-26-2005, 09:08 AM

Ive allready put some money on the marlins to win the world series at 50/1 they didnt look a bad bet, they got speed and power in their line up with Castillo and Pierre, then you got power with Cabrerra, lowell, LoDuca, and now Delgado, plus with Alex Gonzalez who will always get you a few home runs a season, we look like last years problem where runs were a factor in us missing out on the playoffs is sorted, and though i think we will miss Pavano, if Beckket and AJ Bunrnett can step up and have a big year, as well as the Dtrain, hopefully we should give the braves some comeptiton

**VonErich Lives** · 01-26-2005, 12:28 PM

yeah, I hear douggie going to the Mets.

Word is Millar has been working on his defense all offseason.

If Millar can step up and be a good (not great) but good 1B then you gotta keep him and his bat.

**Loose Cannon** · 01-26-2005, 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VonErich Lives

Word is Millar has been working on his defense all offseason.

LOL, what is this an uncommon thing for him? Doesn't everybody practice during the offseason? I mean you do it since Little League.

**BCWWF** · 01-26-2005, 06:16 PM

Know who I completely forgot about so far in the offseason...Magglio Ordonez, if he ends up on the Mets too that would be a huge step for mankind.

**VonErich Lives** · 01-26-2005, 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loose Cannon

LOL, what is this an uncommon thing for him? Doesn't everybody practice during the offseason? I mean you do it since Little League.

Not everyone does and it's all different levels.

That being said, Wade Boggs was a horrible fielder and made himself a gold-glover.

Millar is a horrible fielder, will be interesting to see how he improves.

**House of Pancakes** · 01-26-2005, 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Astley316

Ive allready put some money on the marlins to win the world series at 50/1 they didnt look a bad bet, they got speed and power in their line up with Castillo and Pierre, then you got power with Cabrerra, lowell, LoDuca, and now Delgado, plus with Alex Gonzalez who will always get you a few home runs a season, we look like last years problem where runs were a factor in us missing out on the playoffs is sorted, and though i think we will miss Pavano, if Beckket and AJ Bunrnett can step up and have a big year, as well as the Dtrain, hopefully we should give the braves some comeptiton

how does paul lo duca supply power?

**The Outlaw** · 01-27-2005, 03:34 AM

Yeah seriously. He had one good year when he hit 20+. He doesn't even average 10 a year.

**BCWWF** · 01-27-2005, 03:50 AM

He probably just mistyped, but Lo Duca is a very solid catcher to have. I would rather have him then most catchers in the league. Not Joe Mauer though

**Astley316** · 01-27-2005, 02:11 PM

I Just think with all his RBi's last season Lo Duca, can only help us, last year we got our starting three, on base, then it kinda went flat, and we wern't able to drive them home, Lo Duca helped with that problem as we were able to stay comeptitive once he signed, im not saying he's gonna be huge or anything, but after the loss of Pudge, we really struggled at the catcher postion, and now he's signed up i think he'll help,
but hey i only catch three weeks of baseball a year, cause im english so maybe im wrong

**DaveWadding** · 01-27-2005, 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Astley316

hey i only catch three weeks of baseball a year, cause im english so maybe im wrong

Sucks to be you. Baseball is my life from March (cause I live where they do Spring Training) to October.

**Astley316** · 01-27-2005, 07:44 PM

yeah, it's gonna be mine too, when i move to the states, just a pity i wont arrive, til the world series, ah maybe ill shell out the cash and get the games on mlb.com

**BCWWF** · 01-29-2005, 02:04 AM

01-11-2005, 12:25 PM	#521
The Outlaw Unofficial Legend Posts: 11,931	lol RJ is the man Big ass redneck but he is the man

01-11-2005, 07:28 PM	#524
Loose Cannon I'm all there is Posts: 31,811	NEW YORK. WHAT!!!!

01-11-2005, 08:01 PM	#526
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	How could he even be mad there. It was one camera and you just signed a 32 million dollar extension. I could see if there was tons of cameras, or they were really "invading" his space, but he was just walking down the street in public.

01-11-2005, 09:40 PM	#527
Excellance of Execution Hitman Mark Posts: 295	I found this on Yahoo Sport's about Carlos Beltran's contract. Baseball Contract's make me sick!! Beltran Contract Details January 11, 2005 NEW YORK (AP) -- Details of the $119 million, seven-year contract Carlos Beltran and the New York Mets agreed to Tuesday: Signing bonus-- $11 million ($7 million payable upon approval, $2 million each in January 2006 and January 2007) 2005-- $10 million ADVERTISEMENT 2006-- $12 million 2007-- $12 million 2008-- $18.5 million, of which $8.5 million deferred 2009-- $18.5 million, of which $8.5 million deferred 2010-- $18.5 million, of which $8.5 million deferred 2011-- $18.5 million, of which $8.5 million deferred Deferred money Will accrue 1.17 percent compounded interest Award bonuses MVP-- $500,000 Second MVP-- $1 million Third MVP and all MVPs thereafter-- $1.5 million MVP 2nd through 5th place-- $200,000 All-Star-- $100,000 Most All-Star votes in league-- $100,000 Postseason All-Star or player of the year-- $100,000 World Series MVP-- $250,000 League championship series MVP-- $150,000 Gold Glove-- $100,000 Silver Slugger-- $100,000 Hank Aaron Award-- $100,000 Perks Best available 15-person luxury suite for all home games

01-12-2005, 12:43 AM	#529
VonErich Lives WTF do you want? Posts: 14,760	Someone tell me about Shea Stadium, cause it seems every new signing has a luxury suit clause. I loved A-rods, I think he had or tried to have a "private office" at the ball park for his/his peoples use.

01-12-2005, 03:24 AM	#530
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	Victor isn't bad though, if he is the Mets 5th starter then they have a really deep starting 5. They only have one really strong guy, but they have no real weak points.

01-12-2005, 12:17 PM	#531
Evil Vito President of Freedonia Posts: 58,383	Yeah, Victor did great in his only full start as a Met, so I'm not too worried. I haven't noticed many control problems in said start, but hopefully Rick Peterson can cure them if they're still there.

01-12-2005, 12:45 PM	#532
Loose Cannon I'm all there is Posts: 31,811	I don't know. The Mets rotation seems shakey to me. You got Glavine, who's hasn't pitched well the last two seasons. You got Benson, who's not the most realiable guy. And then Zambrano is another ?. The rotation looks decent on paper, but I can see it just collapsing.

01-12-2005, 03:32 PM	#533
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	Look who's talking though

01-12-2005, 04:24 PM	#534
Loose Cannon I'm all there is Posts: 31,811	yeah, but when you have an offense that can score 15 runs a game, I can talk

01-12-2005, 05:41 PM	#535
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	Touche

01-13-2005, 01:04 AM	#536
The Outlaw Unofficial Legend Posts: 11,931	Glavine has had like one bad year the past 5. Which was 2003. Last year he pitched very well from what I remember. 3.60 ERA or so, that isn't too bad.

01-13-2005, 05:44 PM	#538
Loose Cannon I'm all there is Posts: 31,811	hmmm, thinking about taking a trip home April 3rd.

01-13-2005, 11:00 PM	#539
MVP Mas Vagina Porfavor Posts: 11,343	Mets now looking to obtain Delgado. http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/wire?...mlb&id=1966460 He's worth at least $100 mil this year. I'm surprised to see the Mets capitalizing on so many valuable free agents. I doubt it's gonna help them out in the long run. Marlins are also looking at Delgado, I'm curious to see where this goes.

01-21-2005, 08:38 PM	#541
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	It looks like Delgado got a real good offer from Texas now. If he goes they have a real, real solid batting order, but they still need to address their pitching inadequacies. I heard in the past they might trade Soriano for pitching, if they got Delgado and moved Taxiera to second or else short and moved Young back to second...I dunno

01-25-2005, 08:42 PM	#542
John la Rock That's how I roll!!! Posts: 4,437	Delgado has signed with the Florida Marlins, 4 year 52 Million

01-25-2005, 09:07 PM	#543
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	I kind of wish he'd gone to Texas, but meh. Twins singed some new minor league pitcher today!!!!!!!!!!!!

01-25-2005, 09:25 PM	#545
FakeLaser continental drift Posts: 46,731	Florida is gonna be the shit this year, well, if their pitching stays healthy. Pretty sick lineup. Beckett, Burnett, Willis, Leiter and Valdez is a pretty decent rotation too. Could take the NL East.

01-25-2005, 09:28 PM	#546
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	Oh I forgot about them, the Mets are going to have to overachieve

01-26-2005, 01:27 AM	#547
Terra Ryzin Posts: 220	reports are Mets and Sox have a deal to send Doug Mientkiewicz to NY for a for a Class A minor leager. I like the move. It adds a great defensive 1b to a young infeild of Wright, Reyes and Matsui. They should be fun to watch together.

01-26-2005, 02:03 AM	#548
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	You are the first guy I've seen who spells it right! Anyway, I liked Mienkie on the BoSox, I'm not seeing him in the Mets uniform yet. I look at a guy like Doug as a gruff scrappy ball player and I look at the Mets as a civilized big city team. They should trade him again to the Indians or Reds.

01-26-2005, 09:08 AM	#549
Astley316 white army Posts: 516	Ive allready put some money on the marlins to win the world series at 50/1 they didnt look a bad bet, they got speed and power in their line up with Castillo and Pierre, then you got power with Cabrerra, lowell, LoDuca, and now Delgado, plus with Alex Gonzalez who will always get you a few home runs a season, we look like last years problem where runs were a factor in us missing out on the playoffs is sorted, and though i think we will miss Pavano, if Beckket and AJ Bunrnett can step up and have a big year, as well as the Dtrain, hopefully we should give the braves some comeptiton

01-26-2005, 12:28 PM	#550
VonErich Lives WTF do you want? Posts: 14,760	yeah, I hear douggie going to the Mets. Word is Millar has been working on his defense all offseason. If Millar can step up and be a good (not great) but good 1B then you gotta keep him and his bat.

01-26-2005, 06:16 PM	#552
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	Know who I completely forgot about so far in the offseason...Magglio Ordonez, if he ends up on the Mets too that would be a huge step for mankind.

01-27-2005, 03:34 AM	#555
The Outlaw Unofficial Legend Posts: 11,931	Yeah seriously. He had one good year when he hit 20+. He doesn't even average 10 a year.

01-27-2005, 03:50 AM	#556
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	He probably just mistyped, but Lo Duca is a very solid catcher to have. I would rather have him then most catchers in the league. Not Joe Mauer though

01-27-2005, 02:11 PM	#557
Astley316 white army Posts: 516	I Just think with all his RBi's last season Lo Duca, can only help us, last year we got our starting three, on base, then it kinda went flat, and we wern't able to drive them home, Lo Duca helped with that problem as we were able to stay comeptitive once he signed, im not saying he's gonna be huge or anything, but after the loss of Pudge, we really struggled at the catcher postion, and now he's signed up i think he'll help, but hey i only catch three weeks of baseball a year, cause im english so maybe im wrong

01-27-2005, 07:44 PM	#559
Astley316 white army Posts: 516	yeah, it's gonna be mine too, when i move to the states, just a pity i wont arrive, til the world series, ah maybe ill shell out the cash and get the games on mlb.com

01-29-2005, 02:04 AM	#560
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092