Whoooooo The Knicks - Page 2

**BCWWF** · 12-05-2004, 02:04 AM

I think he was trying to say that when you underestimate a team, you are at a disadvantage from the start.

**Bigg Mike** · 12-05-2004, 02:15 AM

The Knicks should not underestimate teams.
They've used that cop out in the past many a time.
It's bullshit.

**BCWWF** · 12-05-2004, 02:46 AM

Well the Knicks don't have a good team, to be quite honest. They are just like the rich version of the Bulls

**Bigg Mike** · 12-05-2004, 10:49 PM

They have a good team on paper...it's just that they can't seem to play well together.
It's too individualistic. At least Marbury isn't being as selfish as he used to be.
I'm hoping that Houston will be back to good form, so we'll see what happens with that. It's kinda sad when your best and most consistant player is Nazr Mohammed.

**BCWWF** · 12-05-2004, 11:57 PM

Really the Knicks won't be a legit title contender until they lose those big contracts and start over

**Bigg Mike** · 01-20-2005, 08:00 PM

Hey, how about a round of applause for Tim Thomas and Jamal Crawford, huh?
They're performace was the greatest I've ever seen against Toronto.

Unstoppable!

**The Outlaw** · 01-21-2005, 11:26 PM

So is Wilkins gone yet? Heard it being reported that if something isn't done quick he is out?

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 01-22-2005, 01:17 AM

LOL Celtics and Sixers are tied for the divison lead with losing records

**BCWWF** · 01-22-2005, 01:22 AM

That sucks for Washington, they belong in that division. Move Milwaukee to the West and Memphis to the East

**VonErich Lives** · 01-22-2005, 01:29 PM

Lenny Wilkens quit... that's funny.

**Triple A** · 01-22-2005, 01:40 PM

Good. He had absolutely no control over the team. It was like nobody really respected him or cared. They are real talented but they are so lazy.

**VonErich Lives** · 01-22-2005, 01:43 PM

I like Rivers, he's benched the best player on the team like 3 times for "not paying defense", I think they cut back on the courtside/bench mic after the time he was yelling at Pierce to play defense.

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 01-22-2005, 03:24 PM

I'm not totally sure on Rivers yet. Kinda just seems like Danny Ainge's puppet. I don't know though, that's the feeling I was getting originally. The Celtics play no defense at all, all the games seem to end with both teams in the 110-115 point range.

**VonErich Lives** · 01-22-2005, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sTiMa34

I'm not totally sure on Rivers yet. Kinda just seems like Danny Ainge's puppet. I don't know though, that's the feeling I was getting originally. The Celtics play no defense at all, all the games seem to end with both teams in the 110-115 point range.

in todays nba, most scores hit that range.

That being said, Ainge is ready to over manage, but I think at this point Rivers is doing his own thing, if the Celts start to drop a bunch of games, or might miss the playoffs, I'd expect to see a battle for control between ainge and rivers.

I just like that he's not taking crap from the players (Pierce, Payton) etc...

**MoRcHeEbA** · 01-23-2005, 09:59 PM

WATCH OUT FOR C-B-4 AND THE RAPS

**The Miz** · 01-23-2005, 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VonErich Lives

in todays nba, most scores hit that range.

**Triple A** · 01-24-2005, 06:31 AM

Wow they are terrible.

**VonErich Lives** · 01-24-2005, 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Miz

Remember the 80's and even early 90's....

Passing, Defense... heck, in the 80's they played great D and teams still scored over 100, cause it was fast, passing, running the floor a true team game... I hate todays NBA.

Trips - Phil Jackson said he would be interested in the Knicks job, but they haven't contacted him. think that's a "Hint, Hint".

**BCWWF** · 01-24-2005, 02:34 PM

Is Shaq locked up with the Heat for a while?

**The Outlaw** · 01-24-2005, 02:55 PM

He said he had no desire to coach ATM tho...

**Triple A** · 01-24-2005, 03:16 PM

Yeah Phil Jackson has said that he would want to BUT I know he won't until they have an actual GOOD team. I don't think Jackson would wanna risk ruining his legacy by coaching a shitty team.

**Triple A** · 01-24-2005, 03:37 PM

Pat Riley might come back to coach too. That would rule but I would rather have Jackson obviously.

Also heard Larry Brown, which would be gay.

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 01-24-2005, 10:46 PM

Marbury would have to be traded if they got Jackson, I dunno if Marbury's game is suited for the triangle

**The Icon of Elisim** · 01-24-2005, 11:09 PM

I think Marbury could work in the triangle just not as the point guard, move him to the 2 and he could do a good job

**BCWWF** · 01-25-2005, 01:54 AM

All they need to do is trade Marbury and they will automatically become a contender. Isn't that how it usually works?

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 01-25-2005, 02:16 AM

I don't understand why that happens either. He does get his teammates involded, he is always tops in assists.

**BCWWF** · 01-25-2005, 03:54 AM

Stats can be decieving though. I think its his overall attitude that is what makes him a losing player. He left Minnesota because he thought he was better then Kevin Garnett and thought he was the one deserving of the money he got. He said it back when he was on the Wolves and he still says it, he thinks that he is the best. Its not like TO, at least in my opinion. TO is really confident, Marbury is more arrogant I guess is the word? When you are a point guard you can get a lot of assists and still be selfish. He just has it in his head that he is the best.

Personally I don't think that Marbury is holding this Knicks team down though. They have so many overpriced shitty players on their team. If they can keep Marbury and build around him while slowly ridding themselves of the aging shit like Tim Thomas, Penny Hardaway, Allan Houston, etc. They have so much money put into shitty players, think if they had that amount of money invested in good players...I don't think brining in a Steve Nash or Jason Kidd type would change the Knicks like it did the Suns and Nets.

**RoXer** · 01-26-2005, 12:17 AM

Suns > Knicks

And they scored like a season high of 149 or some shit.

**Triple A** · 01-26-2005, 12:19 AM

Marbury plays real lazy it seems. On defense at least.

12-05-2004, 02:04 AM	#41
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	I think he was trying to say that when you underestimate a team, you are at a disadvantage from the start.

12-05-2004, 02:15 AM	#42
Bigg Mike One Man Army Posts: 153	The Knicks should not underestimate teams. They've used that cop out in the past many a time. It's bullshit.

12-05-2004, 02:46 AM	#43
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	Well the Knicks don't have a good team, to be quite honest. They are just like the rich version of the Bulls

12-05-2004, 10:49 PM	#44
Bigg Mike One Man Army Posts: 153	They have a good team on paper...it's just that they can't seem to play well together. It's too individualistic. At least Marbury isn't being as selfish as he used to be. I'm hoping that Houston will be back to good form, so we'll see what happens with that. It's kinda sad when your best and most consistant player is Nazr Mohammed.

12-05-2004, 11:57 PM	#45
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	Really the Knicks won't be a legit title contender until they lose those big contracts and start over

01-20-2005, 08:00 PM	#46
Bigg Mike One Man Army Posts: 153	Hey, how about a round of applause for Tim Thomas and Jamal Crawford, huh? They're performace was the greatest I've ever seen against Toronto. Unstoppable!

01-21-2005, 11:26 PM	#47
The Outlaw Unofficial Legend Posts: 11,931	So is Wilkins gone yet? Heard it being reported that if something isn't done quick he is out?

01-22-2005, 01:17 AM	#48
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	LOL Celtics and Sixers are tied for the divison lead with losing records

01-22-2005, 01:22 AM	#49
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	That sucks for Washington, they belong in that division. Move Milwaukee to the West and Memphis to the East

01-22-2005, 01:29 PM	#50
VonErich Lives WTF do you want? Posts: 14,760	Lenny Wilkens quit... that's funny.

01-23-2005, 09:59 PM	#55
MoRcHeEbA Dirty Sanchez Below Posts: 16,149	WATCH OUT FOR C-B-4 AND THE RAPS

01-22-2005, 01:40 PM	#51
Triple A Triple A Posts: 133,040	Good. He had absolutely no control over the team. It was like nobody really respected him or cared. They are real talented but they are so lazy.

01-22-2005, 01:43 PM	#52
VonErich Lives WTF do you want? Posts: 14,760	I like Rivers, he's benched the best player on the team like 3 times for "not paying defense", I think they cut back on the courtside/bench mic after the time he was yelling at Pierce to play defense.

01-22-2005, 03:24 PM	#53
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	I'm not totally sure on Rivers yet. Kinda just seems like Danny Ainge's puppet. I don't know though, that's the feeling I was getting originally. The Celtics play no defense at all, all the games seem to end with both teams in the 110-115 point range.

01-24-2005, 06:31 AM	#57
Triple A Triple A Posts: 133,040	Wow they are terrible.

01-24-2005, 02:34 PM	#59
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	Is Shaq locked up with the Heat for a while?

01-24-2005, 02:55 PM	#60
The Outlaw Unofficial Legend Posts: 11,931	He said he had no desire to coach ATM tho...

01-24-2005, 03:16 PM	#61
Triple A Triple A Posts: 133,040	Yeah Phil Jackson has said that he would want to BUT I know he won't until they have an actual GOOD team. I don't think Jackson would wanna risk ruining his legacy by coaching a shitty team.

01-24-2005, 03:37 PM	#62
Triple A Triple A Posts: 133,040	Pat Riley might come back to coach too. That would rule but I would rather have Jackson obviously. Also heard Larry Brown, which would be gay.

01-24-2005, 10:46 PM	#63
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	Marbury would have to be traded if they got Jackson, I dunno if Marbury's game is suited for the triangle

01-24-2005, 11:09 PM	#64
The Icon of Elisim Elitist Member Posts: 15,438	I think Marbury could work in the triangle just not as the point guard, move him to the 2 and he could do a good job

01-25-2005, 01:54 AM	#65
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	All they need to do is trade Marbury and they will automatically become a contender. Isn't that how it usually works?

01-25-2005, 02:16 AM	#66
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	I don't understand why that happens either. He does get his teammates involded, he is always tops in assists.

01-25-2005, 03:54 AM	#67
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	Stats can be decieving though. I think its his overall attitude that is what makes him a losing player. He left Minnesota because he thought he was better then Kevin Garnett and thought he was the one deserving of the money he got. He said it back when he was on the Wolves and he still says it, he thinks that he is the best. Its not like TO, at least in my opinion. TO is really confident, Marbury is more arrogant I guess is the word? When you are a point guard you can get a lot of assists and still be selfish. He just has it in his head that he is the best. Personally I don't think that Marbury is holding this Knicks team down though. They have so many overpriced shitty players on their team. If they can keep Marbury and build around him while slowly ridding themselves of the aging shit like Tim Thomas, Penny Hardaway, Allan Houston, etc. They have so much money put into shitty players, think if they had that amount of money invested in good players...I don't think brining in a Steve Nash or Jason Kidd type would change the Knicks like it did the Suns and Nets.

01-26-2005, 12:17 AM	#68
RoXer History's Greatest, Mr. E Posts: 42,425	Suns > Knicks And they scored like a season high of 149 or some shit.

01-26-2005, 12:19 AM	#69
Triple A Triple A Posts: 133,040	Marbury plays real lazy it seems. On defense at least.