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Old 01-30-2005, 04:09 PM   #1
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I will give HHH all the credit in the world for the stuff he did with DX and when he was champ around 2000 because at that time because he actually was the best but his politics are a fact.

You say he put over Angle. Do you know what the original plan for the Steph/Angle/HHH love triangle. Angle would get Steph and HHH would be face and go and have a real big feud with Angle. But guess who stopped that. Trips. Because he refused to be face.
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Old 01-30-2005, 05:18 PM   #2
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I will give HHH all the credit in the world for the stuff he did with DX and when he was champ around 2000 because at that time because he actually was the best but his politics are a fact.

You say he put over Angle. Do you know what the original plan for the Steph/Angle/HHH love triangle. Angle would get Steph and HHH would be face and go and have a real big feud with Angle. But guess who stopped that. Trips. Because he refused to be face.
Who cares about the outcome of a storyline? Angle became a HUGE star and went on to win the WWF title shortly after

Also HHH helped Jericho in 2000, he helped Benoit, Orton, Batista, and Benjamin in 2004.

You cannot tell me that Orton and Batista would not be as popular if it wasn't for HHH's influence
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Old 01-30-2005, 05:24 PM   #3
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HHH is an easy target because he is married to Steph.

Of course Jericho (and probably only Jericho maybe Angle or Guerrero if they were on Raw) could take HHH spot

Why doesn't Jericho step up and play the politics game? Jericho can be as big of a star as he wants to be. Maybe the main-event spot is too much pressure for him? Maybe he doesn't care about main-eventing since he's all ready rich and popular?
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Old 01-30-2005, 05:32 PM   #4
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Who cares about the outcome of a storyline? Angle became a HUGE star and went on to win the WWF title shortly after

Also HHH helped Jericho in 2000, he helped Benoit, Orton, Batista, and Benjamin in 2004.

You cannot tell me that Orton and Batista would not be as popular if it wasn't for HHH's influence
See here's the thing with all you HHH lovers. You all think that if HHH wasn't there that other guys would of never made it. That's just bullshit. I'll never understand this at all. I can't believe you're actually saying without HHH, Benoit would of been nothing. HHH helped Jericho in 2000? Hey great program when you got your Champion cleaning up dog shit. Oh I love it. Gotta see the ratings there. You now what would of helped more? To see Jericho, Benoit, Orton, Benjamin get the best of HHH and then move HHH right on out of the spotlight. HHH then comes back after a few months and gets his big win. Instead what to we get. Guy beats HHH. Win over HHH isn't made to seem al that important. HHH beats guy. Gets Title back or steals whatever steam that guy had going for him. That's the story.

Let's see how they book Batista. Let's see if HHH loses to Batista at Mania and then gets his Title back at Summerslam or a little after that. Is that how you think it should go? Cause that's how it's been going for the past 3 years.
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Old 01-30-2005, 05:38 PM   #5
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See here's the thing with all you HHH lovers. You all think that if HHH wasn't there that other guys would of never made it. That's just bullshit. I'll never understand this at all. I can't believe you're actually saying without HHH, Benoit would of been nothing. HHH helped Jericho in 2000? Hey great program when you got your Champion cleaning up dog shit. Oh I love it. Gotta see the ratings there. You now what would of helped more? To see Jericho, Benoit, Orton, Benjamin get the best of HHH and then move HHH right on out of the spotlight. HHH then comes back after a few months and gets his big win. Instead what to we get. Guy beats HHH. Win over HHH isn't made to seem al that important. HHH beats guy. Gets Title back or steals whatever steam that guy had going for him. That's the story.

Let's see how they book Batista. Let's see if HHH loses to Batista at Mania and then gets his Title back at Summerslam or a little after that. Is that how you think it should go? Cause that's how it's been going for the past 3 years.
oh man LC you're way off here.

I'm not saying that they wouldn't make it I'm saing that he helped groove them into become main-event players in the WWE. They were good at first duh, but HHH made them that much better and more popular.

You care way too much about win/loss records
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Old 01-30-2005, 05:45 PM   #6
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oh man LC you're way off here.

I'm not saying that they wouldn't make it I'm saing that he helped groove them into become main-event players in the WWE. They were good at first duh, but HHH made them that much better and more popular.

You care way too much about win/loss records
WTF, won/loss records? No, I care about seeing different people in the main event scene for more then 3 months. How did HHH help groom Benoit? Benoit has busted his ass for god knows how long and suddenly HHH is the one that groomed Benoit into a main event player. BENOIT WAS A MAIN EVENT PLAYER WHEN HE CAME IN. Why can't people get that. Same with Jericho. Same with RVD. Same with BooKer T. Same with Steiner. Same with Taz. Same with Goldberg. You have to understand, these guys werer OVER when they came in. WHY did HHH have to be there to beat these guys? Why? I don't understand why people in Titan Towers think HHH is the only guy who can give people rubs. Cause he sure didn't give Benjamin a rub. He sure didn't give Eugene a rub. Orton was doing great until someone made the decision for him to win the Title and then let HHH beat him right back.

Now tell me, what purpose did that serve? Just answer that question. Because I still haven't figured it out.
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Old 01-30-2005, 05:54 PM   #7
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WTF, won/loss records? No, I care about seeing different people in the main event scene for more then 3 months. How did HHH help groom Benoit? Benoit has busted his ass for god knows how long and suddenly HHH is the one that groomed Benoit into a main event player. BENOIT WAS A MAIN EVENT PLAYER WHEN HE CAME IN. Why can't people get that. Same with Jericho. Same with RVD. Same with BooKer T. Same with Steiner. Same with Taz. Same with Goldberg. You have to understand, these guys werer OVER when they came in. WHY did HHH have to be there to beat these guys? Why? I don't understand why people in Titan Towers think HHH is the only guy who can give people rubs. Cause he sure didn't give Benjamin a rub. He sure didn't give Eugene a rub. Orton was doing great until someone made the decision for him to win the Title and then let HHH beat him right back.

Now tell me, what purpose did that serve? Just answer that question. Because I still haven't figured it out.
cause HHH is the only BIG star that the WWE has left on Raw from the attitude era. If Austin or Rock were still wrestling full time, they would be the focal point of the show guaranteed. And they would be the one's to get new stars over.

Taker has been doing the same thing on Smackdown with JBL, Heidenreich, Cena, etc
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