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View Poll Results: Which match should headline WM?
WWE Title Match 16 32.65%
Streak vs. Career 33 67.35%
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Old 02-27-2010, 05:43 AM   #41
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If they learned a god damn thing from Rock vs Hogan, they'll put Michaels vs Taker on last.

People were leaving Wrestlemania during Triple H vs Jericho, because they were just too emotionally drained to care.
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Old 02-27-2010, 06:20 AM   #42
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The one thing I've noticed in both Jericho and Edge's promos recently is that both of them have stated numerous times that they are going to Wrestlemania, but I don't recall either stating they will 'main event'.
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Old 02-27-2010, 06:20 AM   #43
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Which does upset me, for the record.
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Old 02-27-2010, 09:33 AM   #44
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I actually think the storyline hurts The Undertaker vs. Shawn Michaels' as a headliner. That and it is not for a title. If HBK had won the Royal Rumble, then by all means it should close. But without a title and because either Taker fans or HBK fans are going to be bummed after the match, I think it goes on earlier in the night.

Many don't think it will, and I can understand why; but I hope that they just say "fuck it" and have Chris Jericho vs. Edge headline. It makes the most sense to me. Edge won the Royal Rumble, and historically that means nothing, but they went back to the Royal Rumble Winner gettting their title shot last year. It makes that event mean more, and it makes Jericho winning the World Heavyweight Title mean more, and it gives Edge the closing moment of WrestleMania. If the WWE wants him to connect with crowds -- this is the best way to do it.

The WWE often goes unpredictable with what they choose to close the show. I was shocked when The Undertaker and Edge got to do it at WrestleMania XXIV. I was sure the Triple Threat would close, with Cena's return from injury being the great story. Instead it was The Undertaker's random title win.
I disagree with this completely. Come on Noid, think for a second. Would you rather close the show to something that has happened multiple times in the past (Edge or Cena winning the title) or would you rather close to show to something that has yet to happen?

Yes, the crowds will be split going into the match, but if you book this right, this thing closes with every single person in that arena, including the entire WWE roster, giving a standing ovation to Taker. And I am assuming HBK wins of course. If HBK isn't winning, then this match doesn't have to be last like I said.

Again assuming HBK wins, you book the match like last time. back and forth until Michales pulls one out in the bottom of the 9th. Then there's going to be that few moments where everything is setting in that holy shit, Taker just lost. the announcers have to play this off. You put Taker in the center of that ring with the look of disdain. One by one the crowd starts to clap and chant Taker Taker Taker until it gets louder and louder. HBK then comes back in the ring and there's that pause, but they shake hands, hug and HBK holds up Taker' hands. Hell, I'd make this a WM 10 moment and have a bunch of guys come in (including Bret) to shake Taker's hand. You make this thing sort of like Taker's swan song on the biggest stage of them all. HBK adds one more title to his trophey case, Taker gets his ultimate Mania moment and the crowd goes home happy.

That's how you close a Wrestlemania
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and if the outcome is going to be Taker winning, you use Fignuts' idea of that being the motivation for HBK to turn full fledge heel.
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Old 02-27-2010, 11:09 AM   #46
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I actually don't like that as a close to WrestleMania. Sorry, but I just don't. I'd rather close Mania with a "show must go on" moment. You can still do the dramatic "Holy shit! We have just seen history" stuff, but I think it makes the night more epic if you still have World Title matches coming up.

People are no doubt going to order Mania for the historic moment, but as sentimental favourites, I don't think people want to see The Undertaker lose at Mania or Shawn Michaels retire. It's not a great moment for either man (even if it becomes a beautiful one, as cheesy as that sounds), and I think ending the show like that could piss people off. To some people, wrestling might feel like it has finished.

Edge and Jericho have each only closed out one WrestleMania. It'd also be the first time Edge was challenging as a hero for the World Title at the event. There's also something "fresh" about the match to me. Maybe it's because as far as WrestleMania main eventers go, they are two of the less frequent presences. I mean, to find a WrestleMania main event that did not feature Triple H, The Undertaker or John Cena, you have to go back nine years to WrestleMania X-7.

The WWE is also looking to create new stars. Now while Edge and Jericho aren't "new" by any stretch of the imagination, as far as headlining the big show goes, they are. In some ways, I think this could represent the beginning of a new era that The Undertaker vs. Shawn Michaels closes.
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Old 02-27-2010, 11:28 AM   #47
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I mean, to find a WrestleMania main event that did not feature Triple H, The Undertaker or John Cena, you have to go back nine years to WrestleMania X-7.
WrestleMania 19, Lesnar vs. Angle. But anyway, I do see your point. But I don't think there's any doubt that one of the two matches on the poll will be ending the show.

Me personally, even though I have absolutely no doubt that Jericho/Edge and Cena/Batista could put on a great match in a big spot, I'm not sure I would be able to bring myself to care about either match if they came after the epic Taker/HBK clash. That certainly was the case last year. I ordered the show but barely watched the two title matches after HBK/Taker. I figured I'd already gotten my money's worth I had to re-watch those two title matches the next day to give them a fair grade.

For what it's worth, Triple H himself said "There was no way in hell I could follow that" and he was in the main event. I just feel like they might be closing the show with it this time. Perfect "Last Hurrah" for both men, if nothing else.
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Old 02-27-2010, 11:31 AM   #48
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WrestleMania 19, Lesnar vs. Angle. But anyway, I do see your point. But I don't think there's any doubt that one of the two matches on the poll will be ending the show.

Me personally, even though I have absolutely no doubt that Jericho/Edge and Cena/Batista could put on a great match in a big spot, I'm not sure I would be able to bring myself to care about either match if they came after the epic Taker/HBK clash. That certainly was the case last year. I ordered the show but barely watched the two title matches after HBK/Taker. I figured I'd already gotten my money's worth I had to re-watch those two title matches the next day to give them a fair grade.

For what it's worth, Triple H himself said "There was no way in hell I could follow that" and he was in the main event. I just feel like they might be closing the show with it this time. Perfect "Last Hurrah" for both men, if nothing else.
You're right, I forgot about Lesnar and Angle. My bad.

I dunno. I just feel like I would care less about the other matches if they weren't given main event treatment.
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Old 02-28-2010, 10:08 AM   #49
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We're looking at this as involved wrestling fans, though.

To casual fans, and the main fanbase, Cena/Batista is a huge match. It's probably the biggest match since Hogan/Rock.

I know some people are going to come at me for saying this. It's not me saying it's a big deal to me personally, or the "best" match since then. I'm just looking at the big picture.
It's a massive match, it's for the WWE title, and it's likely going to involve Bret Hart, which is their big schtick at the moment.

It's going on last, and it's going to draw big for them.

Undertaker/Shawn Michaels is very big for the fans. For the casuals, and the mainstream, the streak isn't nearly as sacred, nor is the in-ring ability issue. Perhaps most importantly, it's a rematch of a match that happened last year (which didn't close the show). I don't think there's any reason to believe it will close the show this year.
It has the title-belt business working against it too.

You can tell this just from watching the programming week in week out. The build for Cena/Batista has taken top billing.

The only way I think Shawn/Taker has a chance of closing the show out is if they plan to snap the streak, or are actually serious about this being Shawn's last match.
I don't think it will mark either of those events. I think it's a gimmick to keep us guessing and on the edge of our seats again.
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Pretty sure Stiker reitterated that the World Title with Edge vs Jericho would be the Main Event on Smackdown.
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Pretty sure Stiker reitterated that the World Title with Edge vs Jericho would be the Main Event on Smackdown.
It is the SmackDown! main event.
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I really wish I could re-live Taker/HBK from last year live again. That had been the first time in 5 years (Benoit/HHH/HBK at WM20) that I was COMPLETELY 100% hooked in and my disbelief was totally suspended.

I went into the match thinking Taker would win, then midway through they had me thinking HOLY SHIT TAKER'S GONNA LOSE.

Out of all the great moments in that match, I think my favorite was when Taker very nearly got counted out. He stood up outside the ring at the count of 9, then fell down again and crawled into the ring at like 9.9 seconds. My heart nearly skipped a beat.
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Old 02-28-2010, 03:22 PM   #53
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I really wish I could re-live Taker/HBK from last year live again. That had been the first time in 5 years (Benoit/HHH/HBK at WM20) that I was COMPLETELY 100% hooked in and my disbelief was totally suspended.

I went into the match thinking Taker would win, then midway through they had me thinking HOLY SHIT TAKER'S GONNA LOSE.

Out of all the great moments in that match, I think my favorite was when Taker very nearly got counted out. He stood up outside the ring at the count of 9, then fell down again and crawled into the ring at like 9.9 seconds. My heart nearly skipped a beat.
Me too. The moment that "holy shit Taker might lose" kicked in for me was when Taker hit the Tombstone after the Shawn skinned the cat. Honestly bought that as the finish.

The match was perfect. If they even MATCH it this year I'll be amazed.

And I'll be honestly going into this with more skepticism in Taker winning than I have in years. It's always been "yeah, there's that 'chance' Taker could lose but I know it won't happen" feeling. Now, it's "there's a small but very possible chance Taker could lose". When wrestling has the mark in me coming out and I'm not being as pessimistic as I usually am, they're doing something right.

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I actually hope they give them more time this year.
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Because the Taker's Streak ends at Mania, WWE should do the match as the last one on the card so that Taker can have his streak end be forever remembered as a Wrestlemania moment.
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Old 02-28-2010, 08:30 PM   #57
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Edge and Jericho flat out won't WANT to go after Shawn/Taker, and Bats and Cena sure as hell shouldn't go after them either. Ideally it should be

Cena/Bats
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in that order descending.
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(In order from Main Event to opening match):

Career vs The Streak: Undertaker vs Shawn Michaels
World Heavyweight Championship: Edge vs Chris Jericho(c)
WWE Championship: John Cena (w/ Bret Hart) vs Batista(c) (w/ Vince McMahon)
Randy Orton vs Ted DiBiase vs Cody Rhodes
Hall of Fame Class of 2010 Introductions
Triple H vs Sheamus ( )
Intercontinental Championship: Drew McIntyre vs John Morrison vs R-Truth
Hair vs Mask: CM Punk vs Rey Mysterio
Money In The Bank: Christian vs Dolph Ziggler vs Kane vs Shelton Benjamin vs Evan Bourne vs MVP vs Kofi Kingston vs Matt Hardy
**Unified Tag Team Championship: Cryme Tyme vs Big Show/The Miz (c)

(I dunno if they would have time for this match, so it might be a WWE.com bullshit or something but it seems like they are going to have to put ShowMiz on the card somewhere...)

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WrestleMania 19, Lesnar vs. Angle.
Kind of as an aside... I wonder if the fact that their up-and-coming golden boy botched the finish and left the company a year later has anything to do with why they've kept such reliable guys in the ME since then.
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Old 02-28-2010, 08:53 PM   #62
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Kind of as an aside... I wonder if the fact that their up-and-coming golden boy botched the finish and left the company a year later has anything to do with why they've kept such reliable guys in the ME since then.
I'd imagine so, they put everything into Brock Lesnar and when he left...WWE was fucked and rushed Cena and Orton into spots they weren't ready for.
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No doubt about that. Cena and Orton were so primed for success in 2004. They were favorites of all kinds of fans.

They should have been brought into the scene slowly, and against guys like Lesnar. That really would have made them, and defined the generation more clearly. Instead, it sort of treaded water as a bastardized mix between the aftermath of the attitude era and some new direction they wanted to go but couldn't decide on.

I think Lesnar vs HHH would have main evented Wrestlemania 21 for sure. That would have been great. Cena and Orton could have worked elsewhere high on the card without being champions yet. Orton/Taker would have still worked at this juncture. It would have been even better had Orton not been healing from a mess of a title push in the fall.

Cena could still be running the table as an extremely over US champion, or even working with a veteran. Eddie comes to mind at that time.
After that, I think Wrestlemania 22 would have been the place to elevate Cena or Orton permenantly. The other would follow suit.
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I think a better handled young main event would have been good for Edge at that time too.
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Cena/Batista will be the main event, even though it should be Taker/Michaels
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This is pretty much how I feel. I know it's 'tradition' to have the title match go on last, but whatever goes on after Taker/Michaels is going to suffer majorly.

Just like HHH/Jericho suffered after Rock/Hogan and how HHH/Orton suffered after Michaels/Taker last year.

Really, the only time I can think of that a title match didn't suffer after a huge undercard match was Wrestlemania 24 when Edge/Taker stole the show from HBK/Flair, even though the Flair match is obviously more remembered.
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From JR's Twitter: WM26 build hitting its stride. Hitman-McMahon match once in a life time attraction. UTaker-HBK announcers dream. Gotta close show, right?

Even he's suggesting Taker/HBK should be last.
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I hope that means JR is at WrestleMania! BAH GAWD!
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IMO, Jericho and Edge should go last, as Edge won the Rumble. Also as someone said above somewhere, they're both 'fresh' when it comes to main eventing Wrestlemania. I wanna see it.
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Edge has main evented the show more recently than Batista has.
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I’m voting for Batista/John Cena, as it’s hot and has been booked well so far on a lot of emotion that’s grounded in reality, which is something Randy Orton/Triple-H got away from last year. I have more faith in Batista/Cena than I did Orton/HHH.

Putting Shawn Michaels/The Undertaker a match or two before the end gives us time to let sink in what just happened, whether it be Michaels’ career being over or the streak ending, but if their match is in the middle of show, Undertaker is going to win.
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Batista and Cena should go last. They are the two biggest stars in the WWE, and they should go on last as a result. The World or WWE title looks like a job if neither title match goes on last (and hence - Taker/HBK should not go last as result).

After HBK/Taker and Cena/Batista, there is too much of a risk of the crowd being dead for Edge/Jericho (i.e. think back to 2002 when HHH/Jericho followed Rock/Hogan). As much as TPWW'ers love Edge, he simply isn't over enough as a face to warrant going on last.
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HBK/Taker will most likely be a 25 to 30 minute match. I just hope the WWE gives another match 25 to 30 minutes to someone else can have a shot to take match of the night. I honestly think if the WWE really gave Edge/Jericho 25 to 30 minutes they could put on a better match than HBK/Taker. But odds are Jericho/Edge will get like 15 to 20 minutes which simply isn't enough time to top HBK/Taker.

HBK/Taker will be match of the night, I just hope the give their other talent the time out there to take that spot light. Last year Orton/HHH failed to come close. The should give Jericho and Edge a chance to put on a show, to prove that when Shawn is gone their will still be wrestlers that can be showstoppers.
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It should go last so whoever loses gets he send off they deserve specially if its taker
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Old 03-08-2010, 03:22 PM   #75
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When it was HBK vs Flair, we all knew Flair would lose and retire but unless its a given HBK will retire then it shouldn't be last... I think its the match that will make the whole show so having it last will realize its the biggest match and not sure who will win because there is so much on the line
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