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Old 04-08-2010, 11:26 AM   #41
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Bret's promos are boring. He kind of just drones and doesn't put flash in them. They aren't horrible, just boring.
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Old 04-08-2010, 11:29 AM   #42
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You also married a girl that doubled your fatass in weight, I hardly see how your taste can be taken seriously.
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Old 04-08-2010, 11:31 AM   #43
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Dale this is why no one takes you seriously. You bitch about moan about how I, RP, Moonface and a few others go over the line while you make cracks like that.
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Old 04-08-2010, 12:34 PM   #44
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Yeah, but dude, you married a hippo.
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Old 04-08-2010, 12:39 PM   #45
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Is this for the face for radio/voice for silent film crack from earlier?
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Old 04-08-2010, 12:45 PM   #46
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Old 04-08-2010, 01:36 PM   #47
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so for like 10 years it was his role in Montreal and now it's Bret's promos that we're all going to argue over? REALLY, REALLY? [/MIZ]
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I love Bret, so I may be a bit biased, but I really don't understand what seemed to be this unbridled hatred for him on this forum. His body of work should speak for itself. He's classic.
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Is this for the face for radio/voice for silent film crack from earlier?
I think I made this first. But it was just spoofing Newstead's stupidity.
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Old 04-08-2010, 04:11 PM   #50
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I really think people who say bret has no charisma need to take a look at the fact he was the top guy in the WWE for a long time. He HAD to have charisma to do that.

This thread just shows that some people think charisma only equates to loudness or brashness. Those people are wrong.

and everything that Jeritron has said as well.
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Old 04-08-2010, 06:15 PM   #51
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I really think people who say bret has no charisma need to take a look at the fact he was the top guy in the WWE for a long time. He HAD to have charisma to do that.

This thread just shows that some people think charisma only equates to loudness or brashness. Those people are wrong.

and everything that Jeritron has said as well.
No he didn't. He was the top guy in one of the dullest periods in wrestling. His promos, while not horrible, were bland and boring. Sure he got his point across in a dull as dishwater sort of way, but in an entertainment business, that isn't a good thing.

Warrior was better.
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I think I made this first. But it was just spoofing Newstead's stupidity.
The question was rhetorical, ya clod.
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E.G. Bret sucks at promos, WCW sucked, Vince Russo sucks, John Cena can't wrestle, Vince McMahon is God, PG is bad, TNA is a clusterfuck, and so on.
... are you suggesting there is some kind of gray area where Russo doesn't suck?
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Old 04-09-2010, 12:11 AM   #54
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I really think people who say bret has no charisma need to take a look at the fact he was the top guy in the WWE for a long time. He HAD to have charisma to do that.
That doesn't mean jack shit.

However, people equate mic skills with charisma, and that's simply not the case.

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The question was rhetorical, ya clod.
You so frequently miss the obvious I generally feel the need to explain. Don't get bitchy with me the three or for times you actually figured it out without me taking you by the hand and explaining it to you.

Be thankful those 3-4 times separate you from Autisticnoid06.
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Old 04-09-2010, 01:17 AM   #55
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BDC it once again goes to show how you can give but you can't take for shit. Honestly bro, you can say anything to me and I don't give a fuck.... guys have said tons of shit to me on the forum. I get pissed when you are disrespectful to people as a whole, to the forum as a whole.

I take shots at you like that to prove a point... namely, it's not nice when people go over the line with you, and maybe you'll think twice before you act like a total fucking tosser again.


I dno't care about your stupid ex wife or how big she was btw, it has nothing to do with you as a person. It doesn't change the fact that your opinion however, sucks a big left nut, and you often have no idea what you're talking about, and you're usually just trying to upset people.
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Old 04-09-2010, 10:32 AM   #56
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Dale, what the fuck are you talking about? How does responding with 2 sentence count as me not being able to take shit. Here you are freaking out over me casually responding to you.

Bret Hart sucks.
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... are you suggesting there is some kind of gray area where Russo doesn't suck?
Yea. It's called the WWF. What did you think of Stone Cold vs Mr. McMahon, The Corporation, The Ministry, and HHH's heel turn and "The Game"? Among other things.
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BDC it once again goes to show how you can give but you can't take for shit. Honestly bro, you can say anything to me and I don't give a fuck.... guys have said tons of shit to me on the forum. I get pissed when you are disrespectful to people as a whole, to the forum as a whole.

I take shots at you like that to prove a point... namely, it's not nice when people go over the line with you, and maybe you'll think twice before you act like a total fucking tosser again.


I dno't care about your stupid ex wife or how big she was btw, it has nothing to do with you as a person. It doesn't change the fact that your opinion however, sucks a big left nut, and you often have no idea what you're talking about, and you're usually just trying to upset people.
Dale, BDC seems to take your criticism of his former wife better than you take his conduct, and conduct that is in no way personal to you. If you want to bitch about BDC, go start up your thirtieth thread in casual or something, but you're not so much proving a point as looking like a douche.

And I say this as someone BDC whines to when things bother him. You're not hitting the mark, and you're probably just going to make things worse. But still, this shit here is kinda pointless.

Jeritron, the only real grey area is that Russo's best ideas were not solely his, whereas his worst tended to be solely his and unfiltered. Triple H alone was propped up by tons of cannon fodder, without which he would have been just another failed heel turn wasting away in midcard Hell.

I mean, I can see an argument for him not being the world's worst booker, but it's hard to come up with praise for him.
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I don't think Russo was a great booker on his own, by any means. The things that happened in WCW and TNA deserve all the mockery they get. I do, however, feel that he was a great idea man during one of the high points of wrestling.

Sure, he didn't do that on his own but from all accounts he was the most vocal and respected creative force in the company at the time, aside from Vin Mac.
He was behind those ideas and storylines, and with the creative control of McMahon to keep them grounded, they were great.
I don't think he's solely responsible for attitude, but I think he's unfairly labeled. Everyone seems to just say he sucks because it's the thing to say. It's true, but it's also true that he has been talented and successful.

WWE documentaries glaze over the fact that he did a lot for the company in a time when it needed a lot done for it. The things they say are true, but they are only half the story.
There's a reason why they brought him back in 2002, after everything that happened in WCW. They knew what he was capable of, under the right conditions.
He ultimately left the second time because of the changed relationship.

My basic thesis here is that there's more to the story than Vince Russo simply sucking, and there's credit to be had for him. It's a prime example of sweeping claims dominating the IWC
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Ok...I've been thinking about this whole Bret Hart thing. I think people liked him because as a face he stood for a really old school wrestling, working hard, and just being "talented" could get you to the top and it did. It is a very basic, fundamental reason. His promos for the most part reflect that. They are understated, straight forward and to the point.

He goes out, does his best, wrestles without a ton of flash but a lot of efficiency. In a era redefining itself, he was the breath of fresh air. Just I'm here to wrestle and win. I don't need to shout about it, I don't need to be a "genetic freak" all big and ripped. I just need to be good.

Reversely that is why Shawn Michaels was his prefect foil. Shawn was every bit as talented in the ring as Bret, but with a lot more flash and arrogance, but still that pure out ability to go. This is why there were such good opponents, and this is why we will forever be arguing Bret v Shawn because they are the dream match we never knew we had and never failed to deliver.
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